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AntiFascist

(13,246 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:46 PM 5 hrs ago

Recently surfaced 9/11 evidence was not shared with FBI field agents or top intelligence officials

60 Minutes - Newsmakers
Recently surfaced 9/11 evidence was not shared with FBI field agents or top intelligence officials
60-minutes
By Cecilia Vega
Updated on: April 27, 2025 / 7:59 PM EDT / CBS News

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The evidence is coming to light as part of a long-running lawsuit against the Saudi government by the families of the nearly 3,000 people killed in the attacks, and it includes a chilling video of a Saudi national filming the U.S. Capitol.
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The FBI says Bayoumi was living in the United States on a student visa and being paid by a Saudi aviation company in California – despite not showing up for classes or work. Investigators say, in fact, Bayoumi was an operative of the Saudi intelligence service and had close ties to two of the hijackers.
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Cecilia Vega: George Tenet, the CIA director at the time, says he wasn't aware of the video. Same for Michael Morell, the president's daily intelligence briefer at the time. Does it surprise you that they didn't know about this?

Gina Bennett: It does surprise me, again, because we're talking about the U.S. Capitol. And in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 Bayoumi was a suspect.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/recently-surfaced-september-11-evidence-60-minutes-transcript/


While I don't believe that 9-11 was an "inside job," I do believe that former officials, in particular George H. W Bush, had very close ties with Saudi Intelligence, and that evidence implicating the Saudi government was swept under the rug while high-level Saudis were rushed out of the country immediately after the event. Oligarchic ties to far-right Republicans began long before Trump came to power.
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Recently surfaced 9/11 evidence was not shared with FBI field agents or top intelligence officials (Original Post) AntiFascist 5 hrs ago OP
I watched it this morning. Geebus. hlthe2b 4 hrs ago #1
Saudis flew aircraft to get out BEFORE any Americans could fly IrishBubbaLiberal 4 hrs ago #2
Well. Saudis were not flown out of the US that day markodochartaigh 4 hrs ago #6
Osama bin Laden may have had long-term ties with Saudi Intelligence... AntiFascist 3 hrs ago #7
Will trump try to disappear this story? IcyPeas 4 hrs ago #3
I never believed it was an inside job odins folly 4 hrs ago #4
I certainly don't know the extent of Bush the Second's markodochartaigh 4 hrs ago #5
The "wall of separation" Earl_from_PA 2 hrs ago #8
I was always aware of Saudi involvement AZProgressive 2 hrs ago #9
Iraq paid for the Saudis sin, it was well known how Saudis were protected at the time Autumn 2 hrs ago #10
There is Tons of documented concrete evidence DENVERPOPS 2 hrs ago #11

hlthe2b

(109,326 posts)
1. I watched it this morning. Geebus.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:49 PM
4 hrs ago

How much else is out there? Saudi Arabia's role is highly suspect.

IrishBubbaLiberal

(1,561 posts)
2. Saudis flew aircraft to get out BEFORE any Americans could fly
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:52 PM
4 hrs ago

I will never forget how Bush JR let Saudi aircraft fly
BEFORE Americans

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/10/saving-the-saudis-200310

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And also do not believe the SNOPES website
write up is missing a LOT when SNOOES claims it is not true

markodochartaigh

(2,717 posts)
6. Well. Saudis were not flown out of the US that day
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:11 PM
4 hrs ago

when so few other aircraft were allowed to fly.


It was members of two specific families, the House of Saud, and the bin Ladens, who were flown out. Regular Saudis weren't allowed to escape. It is pretty obvious why the members of the House of Saud were allowed to leave. Even if the ruling family hadn't have been friends of the Bushes etc. for decades it was the ruling family.

But the bin Ladens? Just another extraordinarily wealthy family close to power in Saudi Arabia and the US. Except for one member. It looks at the least like Osama bin Laden's involvement was already well understood by those making the decision about who could fly.

AntiFascist

(13,246 posts)
7. Osama bin Laden may have had long-term ties with Saudi Intelligence...
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:14 PM
3 hrs ago

During the 1980s, when the CIA launched its secret war against the Soviet-backed regime in Afghanistan, "This relationship involved cooperation with Saudi intelligence, particularly in providing resources and support for the mujahideen, including Bin Laden's Maktab al-Khidamat which funneled money, arms, and fighters to Afghanistan. " - according to Google AI.

I believe that once the Soviets left Afghanistan, and the US suddenly pulled out leaving these "freedom fighters" fully armed, this "Base" of fighters then began turning their attention against the ruling House of Saud. I know from other internet posts at that time, there was concern about Marxism running rampant and, presumably, posing a threat to the wealthy Saudis. Enter Osama bin Laden, from one of the wealthiest families of SA second only to the House of Saud, uniting these freedom fighters under a unified Jihad directed more toward the United States. This new threat would then give neocons the excuse they needed to wage war against al Queda (the Base), somehow blaming Saddam Hussein for his role, in effect defending the Saudis, and ultimately protecting and securing oil interests.

odins folly

(358 posts)
4. I never believed it was an inside job
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:54 PM
4 hrs ago

However, I do believe it was allowed to proceed. Look at who made bank by thrusting the US into an endless military action.....

Just my 2 cents...

markodochartaigh

(2,717 posts)
5. I certainly don't know the extent of Bush the Second's
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:00 PM
4 hrs ago

involvement in 9/11, certainly he can't have been unaware of the concept of plausible deniability. But I wish that poor people accused of a crime had the same standard of proof applied as Bush the Second had applied to his behavior.




https://www.americanprogress.org/article/think-again-remember-bushs-vacation/

Earl_from_PA

(225 posts)
8. The "wall of separation"
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:06 PM
2 hrs ago

That John Ashcroft famously blamed on Jamie Gorelick, that prevented the sharing of intelligence agency information with criminal investigation agencies and vice versa, was very real at the time.

However, Gorelick did not start the policy. It actually was a direct result of the Church Commission and the Pike Commission reports. And built upon considerably during the following 25 years.

At the time, there was no policy in place to provide for the sharing of the information. In fact it was discouraged, as a matter of policy.

But it should NOT have taken almost 24 years for this to become public knowledge.

AZProgressive

(29,489 posts)
9. I was always aware of Saudi involvement
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:18 PM
2 hrs ago

I can't believe it used to be treated as a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory to believe it but when you factor Al-Qaeda is wahhabbi and the House of Saud and the sects founder Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab are the origins of the sect it isn't too hard to make the connection.

Bush definitely covered up Saudi's role despite promising to go after everyone who harbors terrorists and instead launched a war against the wrong country--Iraq.

DENVERPOPS

(11,884 posts)
11. There is Tons of documented concrete evidence
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:45 PM
2 hrs ago

that PROVES that the Cheney/Rumsfeld CABAL not only ALLOWED but ENABLED it to happen......Worst of all in their PNAC they foreshadowed, in writing, what they would need to advance their program even quicker than would normally take them a long time to accomplish..........and it included that they would need something like "Pearl Harbor" to accelerate their goals in the new century....

Having a group "INSIDE" the government, to me, qualifies as an "INSIDE JOB"........Esp since the Bush/Saudi relationship was very close.......and almost every Hi Jacker was Saudi.......We didn't declare war on the Saudi empire......instead we attacked Afghanistan, and that was only a diversion to IRAQ so Cheney could divy up IRAQ's oil among U.S. Oil Companies and outrageously Reward the Military Industrial Complex, as well as Cheney's previous employer.......

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