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mnmoderatedem

(3,873 posts)
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:21 PM Jun 14

Somewhat peculiar tidbit on the Minnesota shooting


The suspect left his vehicle behind. Inside his vehicle were several handwritten notes simply saying "No Kings" No other details. As he targeted Democratic lawmakers, one would think he was vehemently anti protesters. Can't really speculate too much on why those notes were in his car. Seems a mild oddity though.

He also left behind a manifesto. Guys like that always have manifestos. In time we will find out what's in it.
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Somewhat peculiar tidbit on the Minnesota shooting (Original Post) mnmoderatedem Jun 14 OP
You have a lot of faith, I don't think we'll ever know the truth about this Walleye Jun 14 #1
Just like the failed "assassination"... mountain grammy Jun 14 #3
Yep, the propaganda gets out the door long before the truth gets its pants on Walleye Jun 14 #4
And I've read he had a "hit list" - who knows what other Dems were on it? SheltieLover Jun 14 #2
yes, it's being reported he had other targets in his manifesto mnmoderatedem Jun 14 #5
Reports I'm hearing (MSNBC and CNN) say the list had approximately 70 names on it. All allegorical oracle Jun 14 #12
I do not accept anything said in press conferences or leaked to the media or posted RockRaven Jun 14 #6
Maybe protestors were also on his hit list? Irish_Dem Jun 14 #7
I'm trying to figure out how he would use those slips of paper RandomNumbers Jun 14 #9
Wondered that too. They look like hand-outs yet they look useless...like a prop. allegorical oracle Jun 14 #14
He planned to pretend to be a protestor and disappear into the crowd? Irish_Dem Jun 14 #15
My first thought, but what do those slips of paper do for him? RandomNumbers Jun 14 #16
Yes I had posted that the protestors were on the hit list today perhaps. Irish_Dem Jun 14 #18
Either one, but this had to be a suicide mission, and he had to know RandomNumbers Jun 14 #20
Yes I had some of the same thoughts. Irish_Dem Jun 14 #23
That was my first thought. AnnaLee Jun 14 #21
Exactly what's happening now. FalloutShelter Jun 15 #28
Im sure FOX will declare him a commie liberal Johonny Jun 14 #8
Wonder if he took them from somewhere. nolabear Jun 14 #10
If true Mysterian Jun 14 #11
Possibly planned misdirection. moondust Jun 14 #13
Described as wearing "police style" garb -- that's a type of misdirection, but info is early. allegorical oracle Jun 14 #17
He looked like a policeman and had a full face rubber mask womanofthehills Jun 15 #29
The guy I heard on MSNBC said there were No King's FLYERS in the car Wiz Imp Jun 14 #19
I'm certain ForgedCrank Jun 14 #22
I thought that too. Pulled from windshields? mzmolly Jun 15 #25
I've given this some thought. I bet Boelter planned to drop these fliers mzmolly Jun 15 #24
Bingo. CNYHarris Jun 15 #27
Two ideas: Irish_Dem Jun 15 #26

mnmoderatedem

(3,873 posts)
5. yes, it's being reported he had other targets in his manifesto
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:30 PM
Jun 14

other politicians. They're not saying which ones

allegorical oracle

(5,172 posts)
12. Reports I'm hearing (MSNBC and CNN) say the list had approximately 70 names on it. All
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:36 PM
Jun 14

those people have been notified. So sad.

RockRaven

(17,473 posts)
6. I do not accept anything said in press conferences or leaked to the media or posted
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:30 PM
Jun 14

by cop/politician social media in the early hours of events like this as gospel truth. Too many things are said/shown in early stages which turn out not to be true for a variety of reasons.

Maybe that factoid is real, maybe it isn't, eventually there will be more clarity but it doesn't really signify anything either way.

RandomNumbers

(18,696 posts)
9. I'm trying to figure out how he would use those slips of paper
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jun 14

either to impersonate a protestor in order to infiltrate the protest,

or as an actual demented "left" winger. (for what purpose?)

Irish_Dem

(71,340 posts)
15. He planned to pretend to be a protestor and disappear into the crowd?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jun 14

Steal a protestor's car, etc.

Part of the escape plan?

RandomNumbers

(18,696 posts)
16. My first thought, but what do those slips of paper do for him?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:44 PM
Jun 14

Maybe he was going to be handing them out or something. So people would assume he is on the "No Kings" side.

A darker thought is after he finished his planned "mission" he would infiltrate a No Kings protest until he got in a position to kill lots of people.

Irish_Dem

(71,340 posts)
18. Yes I had posted that the protestors were on the hit list today perhaps.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jun 14

Yes he could also want people to think he was a liberal, to blame Dems for the murders?

RandomNumbers

(18,696 posts)
20. Either one, but this had to be a suicide mission, and he had to know
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jun 14

that his identity and true motive will come out either way.

Why - SOMEONE on his list - probably several someones - would have a video doorbell that would record his face. I'm thinking no official would be opening their door to a masked cop. I get the masking in ICE raids and other mass police actions (although obviously I disapprove), and powerless folks complying; but what person of any social power would think a masked police officer at their door is for real? Ergo, he couldn't have masked (not sure if this is already stated somewhere). No way he could expect that his identity wouldn't come out. Ergo, unless his brain cells are seriously compromised (beyond murderous madness), any red herrings he planted would eventually be debunked.

Irish_Dem

(71,340 posts)
23. Yes I had some of the same thoughts.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jun 14

Most people would realize there was no escape plan for this crime.
He would be hunted down and found.
Life in prison, or death penalty.
Or suicide by cop.

But it is possible this man was mentally ill and delusional.
He had a security firm, maybe thought he was smarter than the average bear.
Could escape, or get a pardon from Trump.

Also, police officers and security people often get away with their crimes.
They are clever about the crimes they commit and meticulous about cleaning up the crime scene.

He might have gotten away with it, perhaps.
But he ran into some bad luck when local police went to do security checks on the other legislators.

He might have had a mask on. Perhaps a medical mask.
A member of congress might have opened the door for a masked police officer.
But as you say, the doorbell cameras will give us that information.

AnnaLee

(1,276 posts)
21. That was my first thought.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:31 PM
Jun 14

He just didn't get finished with whatever his plan was for the day. But it could be that he planned to merge with the crowd in order to put distance between the last act, when it was discovered, and himself. We will never know if the protest was part of his scheme. And, no, I cannot merge the vehicle in a plan to become invisible.

Johonny

(23,965 posts)
8. Im sure FOX will declare him a commie liberal
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:31 PM
Jun 14

Because he once used the post office and everyone in MAGA will agree!

nolabear

(43,772 posts)
10. Wonder if he took them from somewhere.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jun 14

He didn’t necessarily have them because he approved of them.

womanofthehills

(9,891 posts)
29. He looked like a policeman and had a full face rubber mask
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jun 15

So - if someone checked their camera , he just looked like a policeman. He had the kind of full face rubber mask you buy for Halloween.

Community people were super angry at her for passing one the deciding votes to take undocumented immigrants off of the MinnesotaCare low income insurance program. She was crying in a video about the anger directed at her. Because of this, cops were doing a check up of her place to insure all was well. The killer probably realized she would open the door for someone who looked like police checked up on her.

Wiz Imp

(5,491 posts)
19. The guy I heard on MSNBC said there were No King's FLYERS in the car
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jun 14

That would make sense as the flyers would have the locations of the various protests and he may well have been planning to go to those sites yo shoot protestors.

ForgedCrank

(2,712 posts)
22. I'm certain
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:37 PM
Jun 14

we can't trust any information at this stage, but what I read earlier indicated that the "No Kings" material they found in the vehicle were flyers. If true, maybe he was stealing them from bulletin boards and public areas? Petulant types often rip down postings that they don't like such as political yard signs, etc. That's what I would assume at least.

mzmolly

(52,301 posts)
25. I thought that too. Pulled from windshields?
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 06:00 PM
Jun 15

Another theory is that he planned to drop these at the scene of his crimes, to implicate liberals.

mzmolly

(52,301 posts)
24. I've given this some thought. I bet Boelter planned to drop these fliers
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jun 15

at his crime scenes to implicate the left. Though he was interrupted so the plan was nixed.

Irish_Dem

(71,340 posts)
26. Two ideas:
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jun 15

1. The protestors were on his hit list and he was going to try to kill as many as possible.

2. The protests were part of his escape plan. He was going to put on civilian attire
and disappear into the crowd as a means of escape.

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