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Aristus

(70,226 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:13 AM Jun 15

Technical point only: Squeaking doesn't mean poorly maintained tank tracks.

Between the track blocks, the road wheels, the idler wheel, and the drive sprocket, you’re going to have a lot of creaking and squeaking.

No matter how new or well-maintained all the elements of the tank tracks. It’s just a fact of life for tankers.

That is all.

Still reveling in how pathetically under-attended Dump’s wanna-be dictator parade was.

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Technical point only: Squeaking doesn't mean poorly maintained tank tracks. (Original Post) Aristus Jun 15 OP
But what if your parade audience is so sparse and quiet you can hear the squeaking? Ocelot II Jun 15 #1
Interesting thing about the Abrams-series M1 tank: Aristus Jun 15 #5
Wondering what happens to those tanks when they cannot be used even for parades any more. efhmc Jun 15 #2
Lawn ornaments. Aristus Jun 15 #3
Thanks for your reply. Would they be too dangerous to use as playscapes in parks? efhmc Jun 15 #8
Definitely. Aristus Jun 15 #9
So very much "not toys". Thank you for your answer. efhmc Jun 15 #12
They Did That In Budapest ProfessorGAC Jun 15 #21
He's waited 8 years for this parade... MiHale Jun 15 #4
He's failed at everything in his life. Aristus Jun 15 #6
"He's got to have a hollow feeling inside." 3catwoman3 Jun 15 #7
Ukraine proved that tanks are obsolete Danascot Jun 15 #10
I'm not sure I agree 100%. Aristus Jun 15 #11
Russia may not be big in innovation, but ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 15 #20
It's metal on metal Norbert Jun 15 #13
Metaphor for crickets lame54 Jun 15 #14
Ah yes. The terrifying squeak of Panzer tanks in every WWII movie ever made. allegorical oracle Jun 15 #15
This was especially true of the Panzers for one specific reason: No petroleum lubricants. Aristus Jun 15 #16
There was some speculation on Bluesky that the older tanks were from private collections Arazi Jun 15 #17
Yeah, that was some really piss-poor marching. Aristus Jun 15 #18
Oh, this is great to hear! ShazzieB Jun 15 #19
This made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #22

Ocelot II

(125,458 posts)
1. But what if your parade audience is so sparse and quiet you can hear the squeaking?
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:16 AM
Jun 15

It was kind of sad. A few bored people watching a tank trundle by, squeaking and clanking into the void.

Aristus

(70,226 posts)
5. Interesting thing about the Abrams-series M1 tank:
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jun 15

Its turbine engine is so quiet that when an Abrams is headed your way, the first thing you’re likely to hear is the squeaking of the tracks, and not the sound of the engine.

efhmc

(15,573 posts)
2. Wondering what happens to those tanks when they cannot be used even for parades any more.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:25 AM
Jun 15

Aristus

(70,226 posts)
3. Lawn ornaments.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:30 AM
Jun 15

I’ve visited a lot of Army posts in my time, both as an Army brat growing up, and then of course during my own time in service. Every post has to have at least one tank to show off as a park decoration or something. Even if there are no tank units assigned to the post.

We built about 50,000 Sherman tanks during World War II, and there are still a lot of them around, many surprisingly in running condition. The ones that aren’t get farmed out to posts that want some muscular monuments.

efhmc

(15,573 posts)
8. Thanks for your reply. Would they be too dangerous to use as playscapes in parks?
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:45 AM
Jun 15

Surely they would. There was always a fuss to get to the steering wheel at the old fire engine in Zilker Park in Austin. I hated having to referee these conflabs but if I didn't guess who would get into the driver's seat and would not move until and unless a mom came around to move them.

Aristus

(70,226 posts)
9. Definitely.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jun 15

The tanks that were accessible to kids were padlocked closed, and hung all over with Keep Off signs.

ProfessorGAC

(73,231 posts)
21. They Did That In Budapest
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:30 PM
Jun 15

The push to get the Soviets out when the USSR collapsed meant they couldn't afford to take the tanks home.
They didn't want to leave them for the Hungarians so they filled them full of concrete. Now they're useless 100,000 pound doorsteps.
So, the park district of Budapest put down mats of foam with holes in it, put shredded tires all around them, and they became jungle gyms for the kids.
As I remember, there were at least 12 of them parked there. Far east part of the city.

MiHale

(11,804 posts)
4. He's waited 8 years for this parade...
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:31 AM
Jun 15

What a disappointment. He’s got to have a hollow feeling inside. 8 years of mentally building up a grand and glorious parade with teeming boisterous crowds screaming in adulation for the Dear Leader…and it all falls flat.

BIG DISAPPOINTMENT, Donnie…bet it’s not the first time he’s faced that.

Aristus

(70,226 posts)
6. He's failed at everything in his life.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:35 AM
Jun 15

Except getting brainless, semi-evolved rubes to believe everything he says. And really, that’s a pretty low bar to clear.

3catwoman3

(26,923 posts)
7. "He's got to have a hollow feeling inside."
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 10:44 AM
Jun 15

Altho he would no doubt vehemently deny it, I suspect at least some part of TACO Donny, however miniscule, has a hollow feeling inside all the time. At some level, he must know that he is a fraud and a screw up in so many ways. He's a shitty husband, a shitty father, a shitty businessman, and certainly a shitty president.

He wouldn't be so perpetually petty and vengeful, so unable to let even the smallest slight go unaddressed, if he were really the confident and successful person he likes to portray himself to be. All that glitters is not gold.

Danascot

(5,065 posts)
10. Ukraine proved that tanks are obsolete
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jun 15

the whole parade could have been destroyed with a few thousand $ of drones.

Aristus

(70,226 posts)
11. I'm not sure I agree 100%.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:37 AM
Jun 15

People have been predicting the end of the tank era since they debuted in World War I. But every time they develop an effective anti-tank weapon, someone comes up with an effective counter to it.

We can’t expect Russia to do that, though. Innovation is not their strong suit.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,195 posts)
20. Russia may not be big in innovation, but ...
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:22 PM
Jun 15

... they can buy up-to-date technology from China that was copied from the U.S.

Norbert

(7,108 posts)
13. It's metal on metal
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:01 PM
Jun 15

and impossible to keep every bit of those tracks lubricated. I would doubt they would even try.

Aristus

(70,226 posts)
16. This was especially true of the Panzers for one specific reason: No petroleum lubricants.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:59 PM
Jun 15

Germany went into the war already behind the 8-ball for not having a plentiful, reliable source of petroleum for oil, gasoline, diesel, and lubricants. They saved their reserves by finding alternatives to the latter: ball bearings. So many of the element in the Wehrmacht that relied on lubricants, like tank turret cupolas, track return rollers, steering gear, etc, were fitted with ball bearing mounts instead. All those bearings made for very intimidating sounding weapons systems. The hellish groaning of the Tiger tanks in "Saving Private Ryan" are an excellent example.

Arazi

(7,981 posts)
17. There was some speculation on Bluesky that the older tanks were from private collections
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jun 15

And most likely driven by civilian owners.

The Army’s trained tank crews wouldn’t have experience with the older tanks (and judging by the lackluster enthusiasm and uninspired marching, many speculated nobody spent any time training for this parade)

Aristus

(70,226 posts)
18. Yeah, that was some really piss-poor marching.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jun 15

Even my wife, who has no knowledge of the military whatsoever, thought so. I had to march in a number of parades when I was in, and we were drilled within an inch of our lives for weeks beforehand, in order to march with precision and a topnotch appearance.

ShazzieB

(20,973 posts)
19. Oh, this is great to hear!
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jun 15
Still reveling in how pathetically under-attended Dump’s wanna-be dictator parade was.


That is WONDERFUL to hear!

I have literally not watched any news since I got home from protesting yesterday. (To be honest, I haven't even thought about his stupid parade until now. ) I am absolutely thrilled to hear it was "pathetically under-attended"! Woo hoo!
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