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Best case scenario is Democracy protests in Tehran... (Original Post) WarGamer Saturday OP
not likely. there is no organized opposition in Iran drray23 Saturday #1
Or they are going to rally around the flag like we did after 9/11. ForgoTheConsequence Saturday #2
I can't... WarGamer Saturday #3
To some extent, negative solidarity wins. Igel Saturday #4
Beware of the Saddam Hussein statue equivalent in Tehran. PufPuf23 Saturday #5
Iran was attacked by Israel and the US. roamer65 Yesterday #6
Are you no longer """anti-war consistently?""" W_HAMILTON Yesterday #7
Very much anti-war WarGamer 20 hrs ago #8
Are you now? W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #9
Who is blaming the victim? WarGamer 19 hrs ago #10
You. W_HAMILTON 6 hrs ago #11

drray23

(8,262 posts)
1. not likely. there is no organized opposition in Iran
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:37 PM
Saturday

From what I have gathered over comments from experts, some of them Iranians who were once jailed by the regime (They were interviewed a few days ago on a MSNBC show), there is no clear opposition leader that would be ready to lead the movement towards democracy should the ayatollah regime fall.

The more likely outcome will be complete chaos similarly to what we had in Afghanistan and Irak for decades.

ForgoTheConsequence

(5,036 posts)
2. Or they are going to rally around the flag like we did after 9/11.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:37 PM
Saturday

Have you missed the last 40 years of American involvement in the Middle East? Can you name ANY success stories?

WarGamer

(17,358 posts)
3. I can't...
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 09:41 PM
Saturday

Giving Mubarak the boot was just as stupid as passing out cookies to henchmen in Kyiv years back then there is Libya... and Syria

Igel

(36,853 posts)
4. To some extent, negative solidarity wins.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:42 PM
Saturday

But to some extent, they've been conditioned to think that somehow we want them finished as a country. not just another mildly irritating country.

PufPuf23

(9,453 posts)
5. Beware of the Saddam Hussein statue equivalent in Tehran.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:48 PM
Saturday

The vast majority of us all are losers.

Netanyahu and supporters are joyous.

Trump is getting attention and having fun and not consequences for anyone but himself.

The ideal you mention has zero likelihood in the near future.

roamer65

(37,649 posts)
6. Iran was attacked by Israel and the US.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:11 AM
Yesterday

The Iranian people will solidify around their government, regardless of how bad it is.

Case example, 9/11 and Shrub.

W_HAMILTON

(9,143 posts)
7. Are you no longer """anti-war consistently?"""
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:17 AM
Yesterday

Why would your initial response to an unprovoked attack on a sovereign nation be to blame the nation that was bombed?

WarGamer

(17,358 posts)
8. Very much anti-war
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:20 PM
20 hrs ago

But if you re read the OP I said the best case scenario at this point is the people taking control of their own government...

Which is kinda the definition of anti war.

W_HAMILTON

(9,143 posts)
9. Are you now?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:38 PM
19 hrs ago

Do you think the anti-war protests during the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, etc. were focused on victim blaming the countries that were ravaged by war rather than demanding that OUR COUNTRY end its military involvement in those countries?



Oh, you!

W_HAMILTON

(9,143 posts)
11. You.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:01 AM
6 hrs ago

You are putting the onus on everyday Iranians to solve the problem that Trump and his MAGA Republicans alone created.

Any negative words about their warmongering actions yet? Any at all?

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