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Jack Valentino

(2,467 posts)
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 11:57 PM Saturday

So WHEN are we going to shut down ISRAEL'S atomic weapons program? AND DID THEY BLACKMAIL TRUMP???

With Israel's current political and military leadership clearly being GENOCIDAL MANIACS,
I don't much trust them with atomic bombs any more than Iran...

(EVERYBODY KNOWS that they have them, although they have never admitted it--
and they probably stole the uranium to do it, back in the 1960s...
see the Ken Follett spy novel "Triple"--- one of my favorite books---
and fiction, yes, but based upon factual news reporting about the
disappearance of a large shipment of uranium on the high seas...)


It has been reported that Israel threatened to use their tactical atomic bombs
in their 1973 war, and thus gained military support from the U.S. which helped them to win it....


So did they likewise threaten President Trump,
that if the U.S. didn't attack the Iranian deeply buried nuclear site with "bunker-busting bombs",
that Israel would attack the site with tactical nuclear weapons ??


(which military analysts have said might be the only way to destroy it,
other than the large "bunker-busting" bombs which only the U.S. possesses?)

This scenario seems very likely to me....


Also seems to me that there ought to be an international discussion about
"nuclear blackmail by the 'state of Israel' "---
but that will never happen under THIS U.S. administration,
unless the United Nations decides to investigate the matter on their own....


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walkingman

(9,424 posts)
1. We just put ourselves in the same category as Russia - we attacked Iran preemptively
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:03 AM
Yesterday

can we claim the moral high ground if China attack Taiwan?

Jack Valentino

(2,467 posts)
2. Well, we INVADED IRAQ pre-emptively as well, 20 some years ago---
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:12 AM
Yesterday

on the basis that they were trying to manufacture "weapons of mass destruction",
which turned out to have little basis in fact....

I don't quite understand your reference to Russia vs. Ukraine here---
except that Russia manufactured ridiculous justifications about
Ukraine being "full of nazis", ok...


I also worry about the China-Taiwan situation,
which is a powder-keg which may burst in the next ten years----
and China has enough nuclear-armed missiles which can reach most of the United States to
make life unrecognizable here-- even if Russia stayed out of it, although they are now allies....


thought crime

(392 posts)
8. This gives China "justification" to take over Taiwan
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:38 AM
Yesterday

And it almost goes without saying: a forced takeover of Greenland is a step closer for Trump.

thought crime

(392 posts)
7. Another violation of International Law
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:32 AM
Yesterday

Putin and Trump are destroying the Rules-based World Order and attempting to replace it with a Super Power Club.

Jack Valentino

(2,467 posts)
4. I think that if Israel threatened to use tactical nukes on the remaining Iran nuke site,
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:44 AM
Yesterday

there are probably some people in the current Trump admin smart enough to believe that
we had better just bomb it with conventional bombs----

unless they were brave enough to call Israel's bluff--- which they clearly were not brave enough to do.

Bread and Circuses

(843 posts)
5. I've heard a military pundit state that the us military are now Israeli assets....
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:22 AM
Yesterday

Netanyahu is using TACO because he’s weak and narcissistic. I don’t see peace, I see more violence and death across MidEast. Perhaps more attacks within US. Netanyahu and TACO both need to be thrown out by their citizens

Jack Valentino

(2,467 posts)
6. "Netanyahu is using TACO because he's weak and narcissistic"
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:26 AM
Yesterday

Clearly, and they were very successful in that.


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