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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBe sure to send a thank you note to
Jon Stewart, George Clooney, Rob Reiner, Bill Maher, Jake Tapper, Michael Moore and everyone who publicly trashed President Biden last year.
Also, send one to Susan Sarandon and Eddie Glaude for telling people not to vote for Hillary Clinton in 16. Plus a gift basket to Jill Stein.

democrank
(11,566 posts)At some point we have to come together
.Democrats, moderate Republicans, Independents
.
and attempt to save what we have left of our country, its institutions and core values.
My thank you note would be reserved for the feckless Republicans in Congress and various Trump enablers.
SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)was a Trump enabler.
Blues Heron
(7,118 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(165,128 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(65,154 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)But if youre taking orders, Id like to send a basket of rotten fruit to the Roberts court.
SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)they all contributed to helping Trump get elected. Being an apologist for rich, elitist media celebrities is not critical thinking.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)The onus for the Dems loss in 2024 rests on one mans shoulders, and it aint George Clooneys.
SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)And Clooney nor any of the others are blameless. Saying they are is being an apologist.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)AFAIK, Clooney Stewart, and all the others you mentioned all have two functioning eyes and two functioning ears.
As do I.
So whats to apologize for?
SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)They are not doctors so they didnt know if he was fit for not.
And who is this all powerful person who is solely responsible for democrats losing the election? Please enlighten us.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)who this all powerful person that you referred to is. Waiting for a name.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)
not taking the bait.
Been here 20 years, long enough not to fall for that one.
Guess youll have to remain in the dark
all though I bet if you ask around, everyone else has figured it out by now.
SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)You brought it up by posting
So please let us know who were talking about.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)Everybody else has figured it out.
P.S. its not Merrick Garland
does that help?
SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)You made the statement. Tell us who you were referring to.
Cha
(312,225 posts)They're Spoilers. There's Poof that Stein was a Spoiler in the Swing States..
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/jill-stein-democratic-spoiler-or-scapegoat/
lark
(25,147 posts)He's despicable and I hope karma gives him a ride.
SocialDemocrat61
(4,870 posts)🤣
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)How would the outcome have been any different with the corrupt Roberts court in place?
Same obstruction, same delays, same immunity, same outcome - no trial before the election.
lark
(25,147 posts)If he had been agressive as he should have been, the information would be overwhelming and I think tsf would be in jail now.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)How would another AG have overcome the obstruction, delays, and immunity imposed by the Roberts court, and go to trial before the election?
More aggressive is not an answer based in reality.
If Trump had lost the election, then yes, perhaps wed be following one or more of his trials right now.
But he didnt lose, and thats nothing Garland had any control over.
Retrograde
(11,154 posts)I'd have picked her for AG. Since she wasn't available, I'd say Elizabeth Warren, or Rep Raskin - someone who was in the Capitol on Jan. 6 and understood the stakes.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)How would your preferred AG have circumvented the obstruction, delays and immunity imposed by the Roberts court to ensure a trial occurred before the election.
Be more aggressive is not a serious answer - the courts hold all the cards and authority regarding the scheduling of trials- an AG/DOJ can only make motions, which can be denied.
So how do imagine your Super Aggressive AG would prevail?
Retrograde
(11,154 posts)this is before the 2nd Senate trial: that didn't start until the beginning of February 2021. McConnell goes ahead with his statement that Donnie should be tried in the courts: the new AG jumps on this. And keeps on it: even if Roberts decides to punt, the government presents evidence that Trump was involved in planning the insurgency and that doesn't go away - the DoJ doesn't let it get brushed over while going for the low-hanging fruit. In my scenario, the AG is more aggressive about prosecuting Donnie for taking classified documents home with him, and more aggressive about finding and trying the people who were filmed assaulting police.
(non sequitur: I read recently that experienced fruit pickers go for the higher hanging fruit first, since it's easier to pick the ones higher up in the trees while the basket is still light and nearly empty, then pick up the rest as they go down)
Fiendish Thingy
(19,660 posts)By more aggressive I presume you mean quicker to indict- which would dramatically raise the odds for acquittal or dismissal, and still doesnt overcome the obstruction, delays and immunity provided by the Roberts court - no AG would have had the power to do so.
Im guessing you didnt follow the docs case too closely, and dont know the difference between, and evidentiary requirements for charging and convicting, for unlawful possession, removal or retention, of National Defense Information, the latter of which is what Trump was eventually charged with.
Brainfodder
(7,413 posts)They have earned it every time they eat in public!
BRAVO!