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FBaggins

(28,139 posts)
6. Keep in mind...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:53 AM
23 hrs ago

Those bombs were designed during the Obama administration with that specific mountain in mind.

B-2 crews have trained for this very mission for years. If Iran refused to give up their nuclear ambitions it was eventually going to happen

marble falls

(66,279 posts)
8. Ohhhhhhh, I get it. The children had the toy, they just had to play with it. Trump caused this whole magilla ...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:04 AM
23 hrs ago

... when he broke all agreements with Iran over the stopping it's nuclear program. This is 100% on TACO and it does no one any good. Did it improve your life any? Did it improve the lives of Israelis who have around 275 nuclear weapons?????

Explain why Iran is not allowed by what authority to not be "allowed" nuclear weapons.

For the record: ALL nations, including the US should disarm all nuclear weapons.

FBaggins

(28,139 posts)
11. Sorry - which is it?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:14 PM
22 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:23 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump's fault for blowing up (pun intended) a deal that could have kept Iran from getting nuclear weapons... or every significant elected politician of either party since 1980 who all agreed that Iran cannot be allowed to get one?

When Obama officials say that “all options are on the table” to stop Iran from getting a nuke, they are in effect speaking in code about the MOP. The MOP is what Secretary of State John Kerry was clearly referring to when he recently told Israeli TV that the U.S. has “designed and deployed a weapon that has the ability to deal with Iran’s nuclear program.” When CNN recently put the question directly — can the MOP destroy Fordow? — to Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, he was succinct: “Yes. That’s what it was designed to do.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/iran-military-fighters-defense-kerry-nuclear/





marble falls

(66,279 posts)
12. We all agree Putin should be overthrown, but who's actively on the case (besides Ukraine)? Why didn't we stop ...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:50 AM
7 hrs ago

... stop Pakistan from developing it's nukes? Pakistani nuclear experts have helped North Korea in developing it's nuke program. Are we going to bomb North Korea?

No nation should have nuclear weapons. People like TACO and Hogsbreath just got away with some rank shit. If they keep escalating, how far from a nuking of some enemy nation are we? How sure are we that the military would keep the nukes in storage in spite of TACO? I'll admit, I feel better about the Army now that they soft shoe-ed TACOs parade, I feel confident the Navy won't go rogue, but the air Force is a whole different culture.

My ex-son in law is an Air Force Academy graduate, and he was a grade a jack ass. As an LT and a drone pilot, he got himself discharged over consorting with sex workers. I admit, he colors my opinion of the AF.

I was a 4.0 sailor. I know I could have hacked Army life. I think I'd have been washed out of the Air Force.

newdeal2

(3,002 posts)
9. It was a joke...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:04 AM
23 hrs ago

Probably funnier to me. But looking at before/after photos of desert being blown up doesn’t do much for me.

marble falls

(66,279 posts)
13. Like you said, the photos don't prove shit past the US has the technology to move earth with bombers.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:56 AM
7 hrs ago

D. Spaulding

(254 posts)
2. When I first saw those photos, the question that came to me
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:21 AM
Yesterday

was why didn't they take out the outbuildings there, that reportedly control the ventilation and other control systems of the facility. Why not bomb the roads or tunnel entrances? Those actions could have gone a long way toward rendering the use of the facility as extremely difficult. I think this was more of a show of massive force that really wasn't needed. Israel could have done what they needed to do without his entering the fray.

gab13by13

(28,519 posts)
3. Satellite images don't give the most accurate analysis,
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 10:24 AM
Yesterday

need boots on the ground to do that.

7. It doesn't look obliterated to me...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:00 AM
23 hrs ago

Looks like a bunch of dirt was displaced but I see nothing that resembles equipment or machinery or any type of human made debris. Even the roads look relatively untouched.

marble falls

(66,279 posts)
15. Whatever they blew up 200ft down came up. You don't think there was serious displacement of dirt from that explosion?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:08 AM
7 hrs ago

Edim

(311 posts)
16. Here's a very informative video about bunker busters and their penetration capabilities (Jan 2023):
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 06:05 AM
4 hrs ago

Can Iran Stop US Bunker Buster Bombs

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Looks like yes, easily.
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