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senseandsensibility

(22,607 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:53 PM Yesterday

Excellent advice from Sen. Merkley just now on MSNBC

Of course that means there is no way trump will follow it.

Basically, he said that trump needs to capitalize on the gratitude Israel has towards the US now by demanding that they endorse a cease fire. The cease fire needs to be used to return to negotiations.

There will be many, many negative repercussions of the unilateral action taken last night. Are we just going to suck up all the negative and dangerous blowback without demanding anything in return?

I fear the answer is yes.

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Excellent advice from Sen. Merkley just now on MSNBC (Original Post) senseandsensibility Yesterday OP
Sensible and TACO are contradictory. marble falls Yesterday #1
How about a cease fire with Gaza? Bayard Yesterday #2
Trump doesn't control Bibi Attilatheblond Yesterday #5
Yes. That's actually what I thought Markey meant. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #10
Looks like Bibi has all the cards vapor2 Yesterday #3
Merkley said he found out about Iran strikes from someone he had an apt with who called him to see if they were Amaryllis Yesterday #4
Republicans were notified, Democrats were not. Qutzupalotl Yesterday #6
Shameless senseandsensibility Yesterday #7
fucking disgusting Republicans LymphocyteLover Yesterday #12
The thought of this upcoming week BaronChocula Yesterday #8
Yup senseandsensibility Yesterday #9
I can't wait for the "both sides" approach BaronChocula Yesterday #11
A NYT specialty senseandsensibility Yesterday #13
This is what Trump wants: sop Yesterday #14
This is what happens when you refuse the hotels and casinos. BidenRocks Yesterday #15
Delusional if he thinks either Trump or Bibi want to do that. Nanjeanne Yesterday #16
To be fair, I don't think Merkley senseandsensibility Yesterday #17
I don't think Merkley thinks Trump would listen. I just wish instead of talking about Trump as if he is rational Nanjeanne Yesterday #19
Yeah, the Dems approach needs to be like the one senseandsensibility Yesterday #20
Agreed, WTF does Israel EVER GIVE us back? They are our LARGEST foreign benefactor by a huge margin! nt Exp Yesterday #18

Attilatheblond

(6,404 posts)
5. Trump doesn't control Bibi
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:20 PM
Yesterday

The votes of Zionists seems to be the real power with that man.

Amaryllis

(10,509 posts)
4. Merkley said he found out about Iran strikes from someone he had an apt with who called him to see if they were
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:12 PM
Yesterday

still on for their apt. Senators were not even notified this had happened.

BaronChocula

(2,867 posts)
11. I can't wait for the "both sides" approach
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:09 PM
Yesterday
"Democrats have no plan to rein in Trump"

"Iran bombing exposes Democrats' lack of strategy"

"Bombing poses further setback to Democrats"

"Democrats gave no input on war plans that weren't shared with them"

I may go into another news blackout aside from what I read here.

senseandsensibility

(22,607 posts)
13. A NYT specialty
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:12 PM
Yesterday

That is, when they are not just flat out acting as republican stenographers. I may join you in that blackout.

BidenRocks

(1,701 posts)
15. This is what happens when you refuse the hotels and casinos.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:36 PM
Yesterday

Bibi feels the same with Gaza.

senseandsensibility

(22,607 posts)
17. To be fair, I don't think Merkley
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:08 PM
Yesterday

suggested that trump would listen to him. He was just giving his advice and the sanity was refreshing.

Nanjeanne

(6,199 posts)
19. I don't think Merkley thinks Trump would listen. I just wish instead of talking about Trump as if he is rational
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:57 PM
Yesterday

or even remotely a normal President one disagrees with -- that people would recognize the urgency of what is happening and stop using words that normalized this situation. His advice is simply going to fall on deaf ears and pretending that we have a government that we can "disagree" with isn't what will save us. I like Merkley. I think Democrats are making big mistakes in this normalization of this situation.

senseandsensibility

(22,607 posts)
20. Yeah, the Dems approach needs to be like the one
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:07 PM
Yesterday

from Tea Pain on bluesky that I posted in another thread. Basically, hey maga, remember how you voted for lower gas prices and an end to war? We're not going to let you forget.

But I'm afraid they will let them forget because that type of message needs to be relentless.

Exp

(408 posts)
18. Agreed, WTF does Israel EVER GIVE us back? They are our LARGEST foreign benefactor by a huge margin! nt
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:40 PM
Yesterday
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