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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHold on! Iran has decided to close the Strait of Hormuz!
The impact will drastically affect the economy with higher oil prices & we will pay for it at the pump!
Thanks Donald ( )

pfitz59
(11,565 posts)Trumpie will escalate.
Igel
(36,853 posts)I get mildly annoyed when only one side is said to escalate when both are not only on the escalator, but actively walking up the stairs.
"The whole truth and nothing but the truth!" is a good media practice ... One, actually, that I've never heard was practiced by any body.
brush
(60,320 posts)think was gonna happen after widening the war carrying out unprovoked attacks on Iran...much like Putin's unprovoked attack on Ukraine?
Did they actually think Iran, which has cards to play, would react like the shelterless, defenseless-and-nowhere-to-go Palestinians in Gaza?
Here we go again wiith more years of war...deja vu Iraq.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,249 posts)sinkingfeeling
(55,642 posts)TSF saying, "I did that". We could put them on every gas pump in the country.
Bernardo de La Paz
(56,569 posts)TnDem
(913 posts)The Iranian Navy is comprised of a few cigarette boats by comparison to even a medium sized country.
If they try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the entire Arab peninsula will cheer Trump on to blow their asses out of the water when the Saudis can't ship their oil.
Probably a stupid move on Iran's part.
imanamerican63
(15,141 posts)TnDem
(913 posts)Trump would probably sell them oil from the US to neuter Iran's few percentages of production if he has to.
allegorical oracle
(5,172 posts)that's okay. Those parks are old and everybody who wanted to enjoy them have already visited. And we have lots of photos and films and artwork featuring them.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,974 posts)China uses oil, you know.
TnDem
(913 posts)China and the rest of the world may experience a blip in supply if Iran pulls another stunt. However, commerce hates a vacuum and it will quickly be filled with supplies being ticked up worldwide to fill the vacuum.
Iran only supplies around 15% of the world's oil.
Dave says
(5,128 posts)that is not pumped up from grounds belonging to Iraq. A lot of oil from other nations in the ME travels by tanker through the Strait. Closing the Strait of Hormuz will have impact on the global economy.
Angleae
(4,724 posts)Quite the opposite. They're reliant on ME oil.
As far as russia goes, they've just been so successful in their military endeavors recently.
hamsterjill
(16,041 posts)I honestly don't think Iran is going to sit back and do nothing. At a minimum, we are going to see suicide bombers and beheadings. Especially if they have nothing to lose.
Makes me sick to think of a repeat of all of that crap.
TnDem
(913 posts)Iran has their own sack by their own short hairs. They caused this by being a constant crazy thorn to every Arab neighbor plus Israel. Iran is like the crazy brother that nobody wants to invite to Sunday dinners for fear he'll pull a knife out a stab everyone at the party. No Arab states trust Iran...None.
Anything Iran does to upset global oil exports will be further despised by all other Arab countries.
hamsterjill
(16,041 posts)Because we have our own constant, crazy asshole in charge. Put the two together and more people are going to die. Trump wouldn't know diplomacy if it bit him on the ass.
TnDem
(913 posts)This crazy asshole apparently has better bunker busters and delivery systems than Iran does.
hamsterjill
(16,041 posts)But Iran has more people willing to strap a bomb to their back and die for their cause.
MAGAs are all mouth and wouldnt do that for their dictator.
Peace. Thats my wish for all of us.
flashman13
(1,312 posts)Eugene
(65,465 posts)When Iran did this in the 1980s, the U.S. and Iran got into a "low-intensity" shooting war. The Captain of the USS Vincennes got a medal for shooting down an airliner.
This is going to get messy.
LudwigPastorius
(12,725 posts)You just need to lay mines in the 22-nautical-mile gap that every ship has to transit to get in or out of it.
Kid Berwyn
(20,818 posts)But on Friday his stockbroker was really busy, all day.
Bernardo de La Paz
(56,569 posts)I have heard it reported that the Parliament has backed closing the Strait and that there is a strategic council that will maybe decide one way or the other.
At time I am writing this I don't think you can post a link to an authentic report that it is definitively going to be closed (although things can changed quickly).
The Parliament does not have the authority to close the Strait.
Safe as Milk
(123 posts)Closing the Strait is one of them. They have leverage, and they're compelled to use it. There are risks with anything, but equations change after unprovoked intrusions into Iran's territory. Israel's and the US's aggression is indeed provocative and begs for retaliation. God isn't making these decisions. Imperfect people are making them: people with varying motivations and misperceptions that do NOT have "peace" as the endgame. Iran is also an imperfect victim. They could have done plenty to avoid conflict with Israel in the medium and long term. They are partially responsible for all of this, but as singular incidents, the bombing, the destruction and the aggression comes from the US and Israel. They are the perpetrators of international crimes. End of story.
spanone
(139,395 posts)Iran's parliament approved a measure June 22 endorsing the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a major oil transportation route, following U.S. airstrikes in Iran.
Around 20% of the world's oil and gas flow through the narrow channel connecting the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman. Its closure would likely mean rising fuel costs for global consumers, including Americans.
While Iranian state media reported that the parliament had agreed to endorse blocking the strait, the decision ultimately belongs to Iran's Supreme National Security Council.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2025/06/22/iran-parliament-strait-of-hormuz-closure/84307368007/
Bernardo de La Paz
(56,569 posts)spanone
(139,395 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(56,569 posts)The Parliament is not the ultimate government of Iran. The Supreme Leader and the leadership of the Guard are the real government. When I saw "government" I thought you were taking issue with me.
RockRaven
(17,470 posts)to spike. There will be market reactions and also opportunistic price gouging even absent a successful closure, the attempt or statement of intent is enough.
LexVegas
(6,841 posts)Gimpyknee
(171 posts)allegorical oracle
(5,172 posts)a lot of it overseas where it brings higher prices. Don't see jerk-off changing that to keep prices low here.
AllaN01Bear
(25,788 posts)WarGamer
(17,358 posts)With their *Air Force or their *Navy or a guy on the beach shooting RPG's?
NickB79
(19,947 posts)Do something similar to one massive oil tanker and you'll absolutely shut down ship transit out of fear, especially if the tanker catches fire and sinks. Or use drones. The Ukrainian have been sinking large Russian naval ships with drone boats stuffed with explosives.
All you need to do is seriously damage one big ship to start a panic.
Ping Tung
(2,751 posts)EYESORE 9001
(28,454 posts)will awaken the masses. I get tired of repeating myself, however, and Im tending back toward the frog in a pot of water being heated analogy. My pessimism is gaining the upper hand, so I think there will be nothing past mere aggrievement. By the time people burn through their proudly-obtained final tank of cheap gas, the world will have changed in unprecedented and unimaginable ways - even for me, and I spend way too much time running scenarios in my head anyway.
The rump regime will now unleash a deluge of wartime powers - real and imaginary, mostly unlawfully - to the detriment of everyone worldwide. And theyll get help from enemies of the USA who didnt just quit hating when the orange menace first corrupted the office of president. Theyve been biding their time to carry out asymmetrical attacks, and American pilots dropping bombs on Iran seems a likely tripwire for commencing
well, who TF knows? Our intelligence community is presently focused on Democrats - not international terrorism.
Slap me silly for saying so, but a military government for a brief transitional time is in my top 5 favorable scenarios - not favorable personally, but favorable existentially.
LetMyPeopleVote
(165,129 posts)Link to tweet

jeffreyi
(2,386 posts)This video was made just before the USA attacks. I am pretty sure this channel will have an update very soon.
Vinca
(52,264 posts)Eugene
(65,465 posts)Americans over 50 likely remember the Tanker War during the 1980s. Iran and Iraq were at war, and both sides attacked merchant shipping.
The U.S. intervened to protect the oil tankers, leading to "low-intensity" shooting conflict between the U.S. and Iran.
Pas-de-Calais
(10,122 posts)His sycophants on the Sunday talks sounded like parrots
Theyre all loonies
blue-wave
(4,697 posts)Trump already told us that he will bring inflation down AND be the "peace" president. You mean that's not happening?
dem4decades
(12,879 posts)blue-wave
(4,697 posts)Isn't that what we're being told?
Melon
(428 posts)If they use their Navy, the US will sink their entire navy in hours. Iran has got nothing.
They have yet to scramble their Air Force. It was destroyed on the ground.
If they shoot a missile at a US ship, we will destroy their remaining launchers within days if not sooner.
Iran has nothing. Nobody else will step in to help Iran. China, nope. Russia cant nor can they project power that far. Iran is toast really.
Martin68
(25,983 posts)tinrobot
(11,590 posts)SidneyR
(152 posts)Dating back to the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953, and the CIA sponsored assassinations of liberal leaders and allies of overthrown President Mossaddegh, leaving as the only option the theocratic dictators we see now.
CanonRay
(15,377 posts)They were going broke but $130 oil will bail them out.
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,782 posts)they lost 1/2 of their Naval forces in an 8 hour period.
Kingofalldems
(39,666 posts)It will be 99 cents a gallon real soon!
Trump said so.
Progressive dog
(7,495 posts)Too many reporters, too few things to report on.
Chuuku Davis
(591 posts)Iran is not capable while the USN is there.
Miami Blue
(308 posts)Im sure that FelonTraitorTrump is gonna use his Magic Sharpie to rename the Strait of Hormuz to
🇺🇸The Strait of America 🇺🇸. So the cost of gasoline remains at a cheap price.
😂🏄♂️🌴🤣.
imanamerican63
(15,141 posts)the Strait of Vermouth!
OC375
(56 posts)U.S. Navy will probably have something to say on that.