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Its now clear that Trump and Netanyahu, despite deceptions signaling a U.S. preference for diplomacy, were in cahoots all along. The first deception was a planned negotiating session between the Iranians and Trump special envoy Steve Witkoff, scheduled for Sunday, June 15. The Iranians reasonably assumed that, with negotiations pending, no Israeli attack was imminent. Netanyahu then launched his attack early Friday.
The second deception was Trumps announced two-week pause to see if diplomacy could work. This of course was cover for the bunker buster attacks that Trump had already set in motion. All we have is Trumps word that this was successful, though the lack of radiation leakage could mean that Irans enriched uranium was moved prior to the attack.
Partly to reassure the isolationist wing of MAGA and partly to deceive the Iranians yet again, Trump is describing the weekend attacks as a one-off and inviting Iran to trust diplomacy yet again. They would be fools to do so, but what choice do they have?
One option for Iran is to attack U.S. military bases in the region. That would bring even more U.S. retribution, and its not clear how much capacity Iran has left.
https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/2025-06-23-what-if-trumps-iran-gamble-pays-off/

EYESORE 9001
(28,464 posts)is hasten the day when Iran builds the bomb. Russia, North Korea et al will ensure their success
Silent Type
(10,103 posts)"But those of us who abhor these attacks should also consider the possibility that they just might succeed. Surely Iran was not pursuing nuclear capacity mainly for civilian purposes; Iran was pursuing a nuclear deterrent. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) concluded as much in its latest report of May 31. And while others in the administration have walked back Trumps claim that the attacks wiped out Irans nuclear enrichment capacity, they certainly set it back.
"Having stumbled from mishap to mishap in his domestic policies, Trump believes that he has achieved a triumph that has long eluded him. And Trump is never more dangerous than when he thinks he is prevailing.
"If Trump can restrain himself from more military adventures and genuinely treat the bombings as a one-off, and if Netanyahu can resist the temptation to further obliterate Irantwo very big ifsits possible that the U.S., Israel, Iran, and Russia will settle into yet another phase of an armed truce. And both Netanyahu and Trump can claim vindication.
"That could be the biggest risk of all."
Arazi
(7,981 posts)We wont know if Irans nuclear sites were permanently or temporarily damaged for a long time. By every account they moved the important components necessary for nukes and could (will) reconstitute their program elsewhere, regardless of regime change.
North Korea, China and Russia now have powerful incentives to bolster Irans nuclear capability. While they arent going to come to Irans rescue with boots on the ground, they have every reason to support Iran having a nuke in the region. China especially needs Irans oil.
Nobody should be speculating on this gamble paying off. It feeds Traitors terrifying megalomaniac delusions and I firmly believe Dem messaging needs to be decisive about the strikes illegality and the global instability he has created.
Of course the temporary payoffs are obvious...
such as distraction, huge profits for the MIC
and war profiteers, acting as if nobody can
contradict Trump on anything because he's
now the war president, and more I'm sure.
But the utter destruction of all of our social
safety nets, the food supply, and our ability
to deal with climate change will soon make
any idea of this gamble paying off totally
ridiculous.
David__77
(24,223 posts)womanofthehills
(9,891 posts)Meanwhile over on Twitter. MYG, Bannon ,Matt Gaetz, Tucker, Candice Owen,, Alex Jones, Massie, are all really pissed at Trumps war mongering & bombing of Iran and Scott Ritter calls Trump a narcissist egomaniac.
. All feel they were lied too.
Here is an anti-Trump policy rant by Scott Ritter on Iran.
Scott Ritter: Trump killed the damn Iranian negotiating team.
This man is a disgrace, a walking disgrace.
He doesn't deserve the respect of the American
people.
I'm somebody who said he's the commander in
chief, we have to support this guy.
Link to tweet
?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ
What does this narcissist, this egomaniac do in
that?
Does he re-strike? 🔥
Scott Ritter: We have crossed the Rubicon. This is a very
dangerous path that we are, undertaking, and we don't have good leaders.
We don't have good leaders making sound decisions,
and the proof of that is the decision they made to support this act of insanity.
Link to tweet
?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ
TheBlackAdder
(29,550 posts)Dan
(4,743 posts)What other success Trump has had?
Then, I might be able to see how this gamble might pay off.