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gab13by13

(28,536 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:34 PM 7 hrs ago

Krasnov Fucked Up

Krasnov's one big economic policy is to devalue the dollar and strengthen crypto. Krasnov has made 3 billion dollars from crypto so far in his 2nd reign.

The bombing of Iran has jettisoned the price of oil and it has strengthened the dollar. Krasnov is actually pleading to keep oil prices low, pleading to drill baby drill, pleading with OPEC to release more oil.

The rising cost of diesel fuel means the rising cost of goods, means higher inflation, means that Jerome Powell will not lower interest rates which would, you guessed it, weaken the dollar.

Krasnov's economic plan is solely about strengthening crypto.

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Krasnov Fucked Up (Original Post) gab13by13 7 hrs ago OP
How long before we're drilling on all the public lands they're selling? ananda 7 hrs ago #1
There is no reason to drill progressoid 6 hrs ago #7
I don't think that matters to Trump. ananda 6 hrs ago #8
The current oil boom started w Obama IbogaProject 4 hrs ago #22
Yep. There was endless bullshit right wing propaganda about the US losing energy indepence under Biden progressoid 2 hrs ago #27
Sadly, there is more coal in those areas than oil... Wounded Bear 5 hrs ago #17
He is busy choosing prime building spots pwb 7 hrs ago #2
Kraznov does not want cheap oil, and if he did, the US petrolum companies do not want cheap oil .... marble falls 7 hrs ago #3
Krasnov does want cheap oil, gab13by13 5 hrs ago #14
No. He wants to be seen as wanting cheap energy because that is what he and his noncritically thinking supporters want . marble falls 4 hrs ago #24
Refinement is the bottleneck they utilize misanthrope 2 hrs ago #28
In other news: Water Is Wet. rsdsharp 6 hrs ago #4
Money launderingrus orangecrush 6 hrs ago #5
Then he'll intentionally cause a recession to lower demand for oil and goods IronLionZion 6 hrs ago #6
Yes, and crypto is the biggest ripoff ever Nigrum Cattus 6 hrs ago #9
Agree. I'm horrified this administration is anywhere near the Treasury with his crypto crap. Book txwhitedove 4 hrs ago #20
In the 1980's I watched "Private Schulz" on PBS Wednesdays 2 hrs ago #26
When... haryn 6 hrs ago #10
As noted upthread BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago #11
Yes this has been their plan all along FakeNoose 5 hrs ago #13
You are looking at this for what benefits the fossil fuel industry. gab13by13 5 hrs ago #15
Wrong Hornedfrog2000 5 hrs ago #18
Well we have been hearing about "peak oil" for a long time BumRushDaShow 5 hrs ago #16
We are crossing the peak IbogaProject 4 hrs ago #23
I ran into an article the past week BumRushDaShow 4 hrs ago #25
Absolutely Blue Full Moon 5 hrs ago #12
I also think he'll be sorry he chose to side with Bibi instead of putin... in regards to Iran. liberalla 4 hrs ago #19
Crypto, gypto, klepto. oasis 4 hrs ago #21
He wants to replace the dollar with crypto. Pretty obvious but not (as usual) well thought out. n/t Evolve Dammit 49 min ago #29
That is why he is declaring there is a cease fire Bev54 21 min ago #30

ananda

(32,355 posts)
8. I don't think that matters to Trump.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:52 PM
6 hrs ago

His mind is too fried, and his interests are simple.

Take control of all the land, and let his cronies get richer.

IbogaProject

(4,541 posts)
22. The current oil boom started w Obama
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:37 PM
4 hrs ago

The GOP are too chaotic wheras we pursue an "all sources" energy policy. The markets respond to gradual shifts in incentives. Carter had us on track to need zero fuel imports by 2000 using 1970s tech. But our messaging hasn't reflected our policy strengths.

progressoid

(51,487 posts)
27. Yep. There was endless bullshit right wing propaganda about the US losing energy indepence under Biden
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 05:14 PM
2 hrs ago

When in fact the opposite was true.

Wounded Bear

(62,253 posts)
17. Sadly, there is more coal in those areas than oil...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:44 PM
5 hrs ago

Why do you think he was trying to boost coal production as well?

pwb

(12,280 posts)
2. He is busy choosing prime building spots
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:47 PM
7 hrs ago

in Israel. People may want hybrid or electric cars even more now. Yeah he fucked up.

marble falls

(66,295 posts)
3. Kraznov does not want cheap oil, and if he did, the US petrolum companies do not want cheap oil ....
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 12:59 PM
7 hrs ago

When oil is cheap, they buy foreign oil, when it's expensive they sell US oil. The BIG money is in refinement, not production. a good thing if you own the largest reserves, and produce more oil than anybody else by a huge margin and refineries out the ying yang.

Prices go up with "instability" and speculators who concentrate on "crisis" futures investment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2024/07/05/us-oil-production-extends-massive-lead-over-russia-and-saudi-arabia/

U.S. Oil Production Extends Massive Lead Over Russia And Saudi Arabia

ByRobert Rapier,

Senior Contributor.
Robert Rapier is a chemical engineer covering the energy sector.
Jul 05, 2024, 04:03pm EDTJul 06, 2024, 01:44pm EDT


https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61545

In-brief analysis
March 11, 2024
United States produces more crude oil than any country, ever

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/images/2024.03.11/main.svg

The United States produced more crude oil than any nation at any time, according to our International Energy Statistics, for the past six years in a row. Crude oil production in the United States, including condensate, averaged 12.9 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2023, breaking the previous U.S. and global record of 12.3 million b/d, set in 2019. Average monthly U.S. crude oil production established a monthly record high in December 2023 at more than 13.3 million b/d.

The crude oil production record in the United States in 2023 is unlikely to be broken in any other country in the near term because no other country has reached production capacity of 13.0 million b/d. Saudi Arabia’s state-owned Saudi Aramco recently scrapped plans to increase production capacity to 13.0 million b/d by 2027.

Together, the United States, Russia, and Saudi Arabia accounted for 40% (32.8 million b/d) of global oil production in 2023. These three countries have produced more oil than any others since 1971 (counting production in the Russian Federation of the Soviet Union prior to 1991), although the top spot has shifted among them over the past five decades. By comparison, the next three largest producing countries—Canada, Iraq, and China—combined produced 13.1 million b/d in 2023, only slightly more than what was produced in the United States alone.


https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/images/2024.03.11/chart2.svg

gab13by13

(28,536 posts)
14. Krasnov does want cheap oil,
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:10 PM
5 hrs ago

cheap oil weakens the dollar and strengthens crypto. Costly oil strengthens the dollar.

Krasnov wants whatever benefits himself and cheap oil benefits him. Jerome Powell lowering interest rates would benefit him. His tariffs benefit him.

Weak dollar = strong crypto.

marble falls

(66,295 posts)
24. No. He wants to be seen as wanting cheap energy because that is what he and his noncritically thinking supporters want .
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:59 PM
4 hrs ago

Do you remember the rumor that went around the US until the eighties that there was a 400 mpg carburetor that the oil companies bought the patent and buried it. Sounds plausible until one thinks critically. If there were carburetors that that improved miles per gallon by 10 times, Big Oil would try to give one to everybody and raise the price per gallon by a factor of 11.

The oil companies are not known for giving the public any breaks at all, ever. If prices are high they pump oil, if prices are low they buy someone else's oil and bump prices up. The barrel price in Texas determines if the grasshoppers are working or at rest. They only work after a certain price per barrel goes over a certain bench mark price, it's been $40/barrel and been as high as $80/barrel.

Why in the world would the richest industry cut prices lower than they can gouge?

IronLionZion

(49,218 posts)
6. Then he'll intentionally cause a recession to lower demand for oil and goods
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:44 PM
6 hrs ago

Cut all social programs including SS and Medicare, forcing down wages.

Nigrum Cattus

(662 posts)
9. Yes, and crypto is the biggest ripoff ever
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:54 PM
6 hrs ago

It's all just a bunch of really big prime numbers.
Zero real value
You give me real money and I give you a worthless number !

txwhitedove

(4,127 posts)
20. Agree. I'm horrified this administration is anywhere near the Treasury with his crypto crap. Book
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:15 PM
4 hrs ago

I am reading now is Wise Gals by Nathalia Holt, about the women working intelligence in OSS during WW2, which then morphed into CIA. Many historical references and issues have lept off the page:

Nazis were printing mass quantities of counterfeit money. "the Nazis were hoping to induce havoc. Their plan: flooding American and English markets with convincing-looking fake dollars and pounds, thereby plunging the economies of both Allied nations into chaos and tanking their currencies."

Crypto

Wednesdays

(20,563 posts)
26. In the 1980's I watched "Private Schulz" on PBS
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 05:05 PM
2 hrs ago

It was a miniseries that depicted just what you're talking about, where the Nazis were promising full pardons to convicted counterfeiters in exchange for their help with "Project Bernhard," the scheme to flood Britain with forged currency in order to damage their economy. I couldn't watch it through to its conclusion, but I remember the scene where the counterfeiters were pointing out how difficult the task would be, because of the rarity of the ink and paper used in producing British paper currency.

haryn

(21 posts)
10. When...
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:57 PM
6 hrs ago

..has he EVER NOT fucked up? The difference now is that the consequences don't just send him into bankruptcies, and law suits, but threaten the entire country/world as we know them.

BumRushDaShow

(154,999 posts)
11. As noted upthread
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:59 PM
6 hrs ago

If the oil price is "too low" it will basically put the U.S. frackers out of business due to their new well "breakeven" costs.



(from here - https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/us-shale-basins-boast-54bbl-average-breakeven-price-204563)

FakeNoose

(37,637 posts)
13. Yes this has been their plan all along
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:10 PM
5 hrs ago

They have to keep the price of oil high enough to cover the costs of fracking. Even back in the 1970's and 80s when the OPEC nations seemed to be calling the shots. They were playing the long-game just as the US oil companies wanted them to. OPEC increased the price of oil & gasoline to American consumers and they became the "bad guys" for doing so. So the oil companies had always held off on fracking until the price of oil was high enough to support the investments.

The longest game of all is to use up the Mideast oil supplies until they run out altogether. THEN who's in the catbird seat? Why the American oil companies, who will charge any price they want. Henry Kissinger helped put this plan together over 50 years ago.

gab13by13

(28,536 posts)
15. You are looking at this for what benefits the fossil fuel industry.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:13 PM
5 hrs ago

I am looking at this for what benefits Krasnov.

Krasnov could care less if frackers went bankrupt.

Hornedfrog2000

(279 posts)
18. Wrong
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:49 PM
5 hrs ago

He does have to keep other billionaire, oligarchs happy, to an extent. He may try to play them like Elon, but I am guessing he sold Elon on something so that is why he is behaving for now.

BumRushDaShow

(154,999 posts)
16. Well we have been hearing about "peak oil" for a long time
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 02:42 PM
5 hrs ago

and that seemed to have faded away as they keep uncovering more and more.

I think the sooner we move away from it, the better!

IbogaProject

(4,541 posts)
23. We are crossing the peak
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:47 PM
4 hrs ago

A recent analysis forecasts we may be hitting peak oil production in either 2024 or 2025. Production may plateu for a few years but demand is shifting away rapidly. So having oil to sell will slowly become less valuable. Unfortunately there will be numerous armed conflicts to stifle the suppies worldwide as demand slowly declines. Energy effeciency, solar, batteries, next-gen nuclear plus slowing growth will all put pressure on fossil energy firms.

BumRushDaShow

(154,999 posts)
25. I ran into an article the past week
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 04:01 PM
4 hrs ago

that mentioned French Guiana (in reference to the oil boom and maneuvering with Guyana) - Have Oil Majors Given Up On French Guiana?

This was related to the finds in the area, currently being exploited by Guyana - A tiny rainforest country is growing into a petrostate. A US oil company could reap the biggest rewards

Of course putting all that out there will depress the prices and with any decrease in demand, it won't be worth pulling and thus it all won't be "used up" any time soon.

liberalla

(10,561 posts)
19. I also think he'll be sorry he chose to side with Bibi instead of putin... in regards to Iran.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 03:07 PM
4 hrs ago

Putin did NOT want Iran bombed. He's possibly the one who gave Iran advance notice...

Krasnov Is forgetting his biggest obligation!

Evolve Dammit

(20,864 posts)
29. He wants to replace the dollar with crypto. Pretty obvious but not (as usual) well thought out. n/t
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:11 PM
49 min ago

Bev54

(12,567 posts)
30. That is why he is declaring there is a cease fire
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 07:39 PM
21 min ago

He doesn’t want oil prices to go up.

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