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What's with the God fixation all of a sudden? (Original Post) nolabear Jun 23 OP
He thinks H2O Man Jun 23 #1
Ain't that the truth. spanone Jun 23 #4
To be fair from his perspective, god is on the payroll. Maru Kitteh Jun 23 #7
"God is my co-pilot" markodochartaigh Jun 23 #12
I doubt Trump believes in God, except as a means to his ends Martin Eden Jun 24 #49
Exactly! H2O Man Jun 24 #60
Humans tend to anthropomorphize Martin Eden Jun 24 #65
God is so lucky to be working for such a perfect human being Tribetime Jun 24 #72
Someone has been sucking down the Jesus juice tonight. Solly Mack Jun 23 #2
OMG, funny!!! But, please do tell, what is "Jesus Juice" and where can I find it? CTyankee Jun 24 #59
Wine. Solly Mack Jun 24 #62
Oh, I thought it was more special than just any old wine... CTyankee Jun 24 #64
Well, calling it Jesus juice makes it more special. :) Solly Mack Jun 24 #67
A subtle appeal to those believe in 'End Times and Rapture' irisblue Jun 23 #3
I guess maybe. Are there that many of them? nolabear Jun 23 #5
Of course in religion there are going to be different definitions, markodochartaigh Jun 24 #17
Google the Left Behind Books & movies irisblue Jun 24 #18
And let us never forget that one of the co-authors of that apocolyptic niyad Jun 24 #34
Absolutely! H2O Man Jun 23 #6
He really wants that peace prize, and ananda Jun 23 #8
Ohhh rightttt. nolabear Jun 23 #9
LOL mobeau69 Jun 23 #16
Bombing Iran won't help Renew Deal Jun 24 #20
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." (n/t) Retrograde Jun 23 #10
casting himself as the messiah with his worms as disciples nt msongs Jun 23 #11
Trump was actually mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls: "THE MAN OF THE LIE" RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jun 23 #13
That's interesting. Can you say more about that? Scrivener7 Jun 24 #39
Yes, I could, but the DU would probably ban me. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jun 24 #47
What's your theory? The Blue Flower Jun 24 #53
Well, the comment on Trump/man of the lie was just meant to be tongue in cheek. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jun 24 #63
Absolutely crackers rickyhall Jun 23 #14
When does the US embassy open in Tehran? Renew Deal Jun 23 #15
He knows he needs to consolidate support of religious zealots for the next phase of the project 0rganism Jun 24 #19
WTAF? MIButterfly Jun 24 #21
Making out canetoad Jun 24 #22
Trump uses God like Charlie Manson. PufPuf23 Jun 24 #23
He's like a cross between Charles Manson and Rodney Dangerfield. thought crime Jun 24 #41
He makes everything weird. 2MuchNoise Jun 24 #24
The majority of his administration are Christian Nationalists. SamKnause Jun 24 #25
He has an obscene degree of contempt for the intelligence of his base, which RockRaven Jun 24 #26
god fixation? HE'S DYING orleans Jun 24 #27
I've heard some theorizing... regnaD kciN Jun 24 #28
It's a bad movie script. nolabear Jun 24 #29
Yes bdamomma Jun 24 #43
God passed the loyalty test. thought crime Jun 24 #44
He's dying maybe? Figarosmom Jun 24 #30
Hitler had God on his lips too. It's B.See Jun 24 #31
I think they use it to justify wars & other unconscionable acts. SheltieLover Jun 24 #32
More shameless campaigning for the Nobel prize. Klarkashton Jun 24 #33
He's trying to talk more like his lunatic supporters and doing an absolute shit job of it. Nothing new. Karasu Jun 24 #35
The damned friggin bastard STILL wants the Nobel Peace Prize. The one thing he's always wanted, but can't buy. C Moon Jun 24 #36
He is doing a fake good person act and doesn't know how to do it. Irish_Dem Jun 24 #37
Half of his base thinks he's ushering in the second coming. Scrivener7 Jun 24 #38
He has no bdamomma Jun 24 #40
Straight outta Nietzsche (the God is Dead guy) thought crime Jun 24 #46
More slop for the Gadarene Swine of TX, LA, MS, AL, etc. who put him in office? hatrack Jun 24 #42
Just like Mark Twain said MoseShrute Jun 24 #45
Hopefully bad medical news orangecrush Jun 24 #48
When yellow fever vaccine was invented people said, THANK GOD!". Who invented the mosquito? Ping Tung Jun 24 #50
That explains a weird text I got from my MAGA BIL. yardwork Jun 24 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Traildogbob Jun 24 #52
Empty meaningless words malaise Jun 24 #54
More proof that there is no god Bayard Jun 24 #55
He is the "Chosen One" Emile Jun 24 #56
Religion is a political tool stillcool Jun 24 #57
Still trying for that Nobel Peace Prize ? republianmushroom Jun 24 #58
Paula White's been in his office again Jilly_in_VA Jun 24 #61
They were literally on the WH grounds yesterday nolabear Jun 24 #66
Trump is starting to believe those freaks who said he was "spared by God" in Pennsylvania. LudwigPastorius Jun 24 #68
I'd say we could add another component to the psychiatric stew that is Trump. Vinca Jun 24 #69
Kings believe themselves God's representatives carpetbagger Jun 24 #70
He's trying to repair the perception among his ardent base that he has some measure of moral consideration Uncle Joe Jun 24 #71

Maru Kitteh

(30,420 posts)
7. To be fair from his perspective, god is on the payroll.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:43 PM
Jun 23

Everything exists for him, real and invented. Every resource, every belief, exists for him. Every grain of sand, the wheat and the chaff. All for him.



Martin Eden

(14,676 posts)
49. I doubt Trump believes in God, except as a means to his ends
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 10:57 AM
Jun 24

Most believers conceptualize God as a supreme being much greater than themselves to be worshipped, obeyed, and often feared.

The Felon is an entirely self centered malignant narcissist, putting himself before all others. He may view some players on the world stage as members of his elite status or examples to emulate, but subservience to a supernatural power that sits in judgment and punishes transgressors?

I think not. He worships only himself. I doubt his lizard brain conceptualizes "God" as anything but a means for pandering to and securing support from the useful idiots who fall for his con job.

To varying degrees, the same goes for "conservative" politicans and preachers who gain wealth and fame proselytizing a God who, if he exists, would punish them for their feckless greed and cruelty towards the most vulnerable of God's children.

H2O Man

(77,560 posts)
60. Exactly!
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:23 PM
Jun 24

Just my opinion, but I think christian nationalists create a god in their own image. Many other good people believe in a Santa God with a stained-glass Jesus. Surely a Thomas Merton is in a tiny minority.

The felon has no more understanding of "god" or "good" than an alligator or crocodile.

Martin Eden

(14,676 posts)
65. Humans tend to anthropomorphize
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:51 PM
Jun 24

The monotheistic God is created in man's image -- an evolutionary progression from primitive societies believing in elemental powers, to the pantheon of deities before the Abrahamic religions supplanted them.

Being agnostic myself, I have no certainty as to whether a form of supernatural consciousness communicated to humans during the past, by means understandable to them. However, I am certain institutional religions became the means by which men motivated by wealth and power manipulated the masses to do their bidding.

I find more value in the spiritualism of Native American concept of Manitou, in which all things have a life force. They lived WITH nature and respected it, rather than ravage it as a commodity for short term profit.

If there is a supernatural being in this universe, I think it would judge Native American spiritualism as far superior.

CTyankee

(66,670 posts)
59. OMG, funny!!! But, please do tell, what is "Jesus Juice" and where can I find it?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:10 PM
Jun 24

thank you for considering my request.

nolabear

(43,792 posts)
5. I guess maybe. Are there that many of them?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:42 PM
Jun 23

My fear is he’s dying to be part of some 21st Century Crusades. Big religious conflict.

Fortunately he’s very, very bad at it.

markodochartaigh

(3,470 posts)
17. Of course in religion there are going to be different definitions,
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:03 AM
Jun 24

but about 78 million people in the US are considered evangelicals. And they voted about 80% Trump. It's a lot. And of course they are gerrymandered so that their votes count more.


https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/02/who-are-evangelicals-pew-study/

niyad

(125,628 posts)
34. And let us never forget that one of the co-authors of that apocolyptic
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:11 AM
Jun 24

insanity, tim lehaye, was the founder of the bizarre Concerned Women for America, run by (ostensibly), his spokeswife beverly. She once said on national tv that, "if we don't teach teenagers about sex, they won't do it."

Renew Deal

(84,323 posts)
20. Bombing Iran won't help
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:12 AM
Jun 24

Even if he immediately deescalated. He's going to have to do a lot more to get there.

Retrograde

(11,219 posts)
10. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." (n/t)
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jun 23
47. Yes, I could, but the DU would probably ban me.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:34 AM
Jun 24

I will say this, I have never believed the Dead Sea Scrolls were found accidentally, as the story goes.

63. Well, the comment on Trump/man of the lie was just meant to be tongue in cheek.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:34 PM
Jun 24

Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:40 PM - Edit history (1)

But, he lies enough to be the man of the lie. The Essenes were probably dealing with someone, or a culture, involved with something deeply taboo. Trump, well, he just likes to lie.

0rganism

(25,263 posts)
19. He knows he needs to consolidate support of religious zealots for the next phase of the project
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:11 AM
Jun 24

Today's SCOTUS decision re. federal agents having summary exiling privileges is only the start of some very surprising high court decisions we'll be getting for the next couple months, as well as the impending chaos in the middle east. F47 is going to want those troops, deployed both here and abroad, fired up with the holy spirit's finest murder juice to "restore order" upon protesters foreign and domestic.

MIButterfly

(916 posts)
21. WTAF?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:20 AM
Jun 24

Every day he makes less and less sense. Israel and Iran came to him? Who in Israel and Iran went to him? Are they in the room with us now? In what alternate universe did any of them go to him? Did they have tears in their eyes and say "Sir, Sir, please show us the way to peace?"

Lord have mercy, that man is completely nuts.

RockRaven

(17,640 posts)
26. He has an obscene degree of contempt for the intelligence of his base, which
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:43 AM
Jun 24

tends towards religious, and he is attempting to manipulate them a la affinity fraud in a manner which is laughably transparent to everyone except said base.

regnaD kciN

(27,202 posts)
28. I've heard some theorizing...
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 12:56 AM
Jun 24

…that, while DJT has always been a non-believer, the trauma of being shot at, plus the subsequent narrative from Christian nationalists that he was “saved by God,” have actually convinced him that there is a God (who is just like him, of course), and who has indeed “chosen” him to carry out His will (which is, once again, the same agenda Trump was already carrying out). In other words, he’s developed a whole new level of megalomania.

bdamomma

(68,906 posts)
43. Yes
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:15 AM
Jun 24

what version of "The Apprentice" is in his delusional head???? I hope it's cancelled.

Figarosmom

(7,275 posts)
30. He's dying maybe?
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 01:24 AM
Jun 24

Of course that's just wishful thinking. He's appealing to the Jesus crowd.

These people that Krystal is talking about

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Karasu

(1,716 posts)
35. He's trying to talk more like his lunatic supporters and doing an absolute shit job of it. Nothing new.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:12 AM
Jun 24

C Moon

(13,044 posts)
36. The damned friggin bastard STILL wants the Nobel Peace Prize. The one thing he's always wanted, but can't buy.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:30 AM
Jun 24

I hope to GOD he's at the bottom of the list.

Scrivener7

(56,548 posts)
38. Half of his base thinks he's ushering in the second coming.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 06:41 AM
Jun 24

You know, the time when then Prince of Peace shows up in Idaho and annihilates everyone on earth except 144,000 people who sufficiently despise everyone else.

Taco has always periodically played into that narrative.

And the assholes fall for it every time!

bdamomma

(68,906 posts)
40. He has no
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:02 AM
Jun 24

religion, he thinks he's God. The only thing he has reverence for is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and himself.

thought crime

(566 posts)
46. Straight outta Nietzsche (the God is Dead guy)
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:24 AM
Jun 24

Nietzsche’s Übermensch or superman is not constrained by society or religion. He has his own will and values. It was probably a mistake to give Trump full immunity.

MoseShrute

(78 posts)
45. Just like Mark Twain said
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 07:23 AM
Jun 24

Religiosity is the final bastion of a scoundrel. When all else fails, start tossing “god” into the mix.

Response to nolabear (Original post)

Bayard

(26,193 posts)
55. More proof that there is no god
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jun 24

If there was, trump, the Anti-Christ, would have been smote a long time ago.

LudwigPastorius

(13,055 posts)
68. Trump is starting to believe those freaks who said he was "spared by God" in Pennsylvania.
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jun 24

So, he figures he'd throw the old guy a bone by invoking his name in a tweet every once in awhile.

carpetbagger

(5,320 posts)
70. Kings believe themselves God's representatives
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:30 PM
Jun 24

He wants to be worshipped and to speak for God. In the eyes of America's Christians, it's working.

Uncle Joe

(62,523 posts)
71. He's trying to repair the perception among his ardent base that he has some measure of moral consideration
Tue Jun 24, 2025, 02:31 PM
Jun 24

despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary for most everyone else to see, they actually believed he cared about their needs, among them no more bullshit endless wars.

The un-provoked bombing of Iran was as a bucket of cold water on their delusion.

Keep and eye out to see whether his newfound morals or God is big enough to actually care about the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza, not to mention how the Palestinians are treated in general.

Thanks for the thread nolabear

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