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Lonestarblue

(12,814 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 08:46 AM Jun 27

Gaza must be eliminated': Israel's airwaves are filled with pro-genocide propaganda

We in the US need a reckoning on what we are supporting in Israel. Certainly not all Israelis support what Netanyahu is doing, just as we here do not support Trump but are unable to stop him, but Israel is now the equivalent of Trump, Miller, and MAGA. It is not the country we once knew and appreciated. All I have is my voice and my vote, but I will speak out on Israel’s atrocities, just as I do on the Trump/MAGA atrocities. The following are public statements supporting the destruction of Gaza and the elimination of all Palestinians. Many of the statements are horrific and are from government officials.

“I’ve limited the collection to 20, but there are databases online with hundreds of statements which show a blurring of Hamas and the population of Gaza (including children) and a desire to inflict collective punishment. The end goal of all this is not the removal of Hamas from Gaza, but the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank.

“All of Gaza’s infrastructures must be destroyed to its foundation and their electricity cut off immediately. The war is not against Hamas but against the state of Gaza,” said May Golan, minister for social equality and the advancement of the status of women of Israel on 7 October 2023.

“Flatten everything [in Gaza] just like it is today in Auschwitz,” David Azoulay, council leader for the northern Israeli town of Metula, said in an interview with an Israeli radio station, December 2023.

t’s an entire nation out there that is responsible. it’s not true this rhetoric about civilians not aware not involved, it’s absolutely not true …” Isaac Herzog, Israel’s president, said at a press conference on 13 October (in English).”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/27/israel-gaza-propaganda

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Gaza must be eliminated': Israel's airwaves are filled with pro-genocide propaganda (Original Post) Lonestarblue Jun 27 OP
It seems strange atreides1 Jun 27 #1
It's heartbreaking and disgusting Chasstev365 Jun 27 #2
Because humans are barbaric savages dwayneb Jun 27 #38
Hurt people hurt people IronLionZion Jun 27 #10
Dont forget the Drunken Brits who made conflicting promises IbogaProject Jun 27 #20
Just change the flag as well, from red, black & white to blue & white. nt Exp Jun 27 #23
I see fewer vocal apologists on DU lately... druidity33 Jun 27 #3
The corporate media is in bed with Trump, and Trump is in bed with Netanyahu. W_HAMILTON Jun 27 #5
ITA JustAnotherGen Jun 27 #13
That explanation is too easy. AloeVera Jun 27 #30
No, it's not. Israel is a sovereign nation. Only so much can be done to rein them in. W_HAMILTON Jun 27 #34
No one asked for military intervention. It's absurd to claim there were no other options. AloeVera Jun 28 #41
There were other options -- several of which WERE tried -- but in the end, Israel did not need anyone's permission... W_HAMILTON Jun 28 #42
It's genocide. erodriguez Jun 27 #12
It is disgusting. I thought "never again," meant "never again." Doodley Jun 27 #4
Local proverb malaise Jun 27 #6
I am far from an apologist but all these horrendous statements hedda_foil Jun 27 #7
A sampling of comments from recent months. David__77 Jun 27 #8
Thank you. hedda_foil Jun 27 #9
Effin evil malaise Jun 27 #28
Are they chanting U S A by chance? twodogsbarking Jun 27 #11
A poll taken earlier this year found nearly half of Israelis supported its army killing all Palestinians in Gaza. Gimpyknee Jun 27 #14
That would include Christian Palestinians. multigraincracker Jun 27 #15
I know. I have acquaintances in Israel. They do not support this attitude. Lonestarblue Jun 27 #16
Judging by what I read around here, I believe it. nt Exp Jun 27 #22
Do you have access to the poll? Mosby Jun 27 #26
Trump,Miller and MAGA..the Unholy Trinity. BattleRow Jun 27 #17
Sad but true. Martin68 Jun 27 #18
It sounds better in German. Grins Jun 27 #19
So you think Jews are the new Nazis? Mosby Jun 27 #25
Steven Miller biophile Jun 27 #29
Funny Mossfern Jun 27 #31
Who knew? Exp Jun 27 #21
kick Exp Jun 27 #24
Israel's territorial ambitions and the methods employed to accomplish it need to be "eliminated". marble falls Jun 27 #27
Yes. The gaslighting must no longer be allowed to prevail either. AloeVera Jun 27 #33
Of course Israel is not the poor defenseless innocent victim. And that bothers the hell out of a lot of Jew haters. Beastly Boy Jun 27 #36
Isaac Herzog, Israel's president, said at a press conference on 13 October patphil Jun 27 #32
I'd done all the reckoning I needed snot Jun 27 #35
The airwaves of the Arab states Israel is surrounded by and beyond have been full of pro-genocide propaganda since 1948. Beastly Boy Jun 27 #37
UNITED NATIONS should send 'peace-keeping troops' to Gaza, Jack Valentino Jun 28 #39
Post removed Post removed Jun 28 #40

atreides1

(16,793 posts)
1. It seems strange
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 08:55 AM
Jun 27

The world ignored what Hitler and the Nazis were doing to European Jews...fast forward and the world is ignoring what Netanyahu and his "Nazis" are doing to the Palestinians!

dwayneb

(1,019 posts)
38. Because humans are barbaric savages
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:38 PM
Jun 27

Who have been wired from millions of years of evolution to fight to the death to create and protect their "tribe".

IronLionZion

(49,479 posts)
10. Hurt people hurt people
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:13 AM
Jun 27

there are academic papers studying that sort of thing. How some Israelis believe they are entitled to take land and cleanse it of the people living there because of what Hitler did to their ancestors. Their attitude is there are many places for Arabs/Muslims to live but only one Jewish nation, so bye.

Some MAGA voters feel entitled to step on others because their own immigrant ancestors were treated badly back in the day.

IbogaProject

(4,667 posts)
20. Dont forget the Drunken Brits who made conflicting promises
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jun 27

The Brits made promises to both the Zionists and to the people who were already there. Bibi and his team supported Haamas as a strategy to divide the Palistinian people.

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it's blown up in our faces | The Times of Israel https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
The premier’s policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

(Snip)

Additionally, since 2014, Netanyahu-led governments have practically turned a blind eye to the incendiary balloons and rocket fire from Gaza.


Meanwhile, Israel has allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018, in order to maintain its fragile ceasefire with the Hamas rulers of the Strip.


This is very similar to our own 9/11, where the Bush administration got a blank check after failing to ever justify why our military wasn't able to respond.

druidity33

(6,789 posts)
3. I see fewer vocal apologists on DU lately...
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jun 27

Israel and Bibi are off the rails. But the idea that the Israeli public is not far behind them has been ignored by the Media at large. Is it genocide yet?



W_HAMILTON

(9,344 posts)
5. The corporate media is in bed with Trump, and Trump is in bed with Netanyahu.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jun 27

Biden/Kamala were the only thing standing between Netanyahu and the complete eradication of Gaza, but many were propagandized and thought it wasn't enough, so now Gaza as we know it will be gone and Palestinians will be killed, starved to death, or doomed to be forever refugees.

AloeVera

(3,293 posts)
30. That explanation is too easy.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:10 PM
Jun 27

It lets us off the hook too easily. By "us" I mean the Biden Administration, the EU, Canada etc. The Western media too.

For 16 months they all watched the destruction of Gaza (nearly complete already by January 2025), the blocking of aid, the near-starvation, the destruction of hospitals, schools, infrastructure etc and the undeniable commission of war crimes and atrocities. Yet they - but mostly the US. by providing diplomatic cover and blocking ceasefires through the UN three times! and by refusing to condition funding and weapons sales even when their own professionals in State were saying Israel was committing crimes - allowed all of it to happen with impunity.

Had Gaza not been allowed to be destroyed, Trump would not be able to do what he is doing. No one spoke up, no one stopped it. That, to me, is the tragedy and the betrayal of who we are supposed to be.

W_HAMILTON

(9,344 posts)
34. No, it's not. Israel is a sovereign nation. Only so much can be done to rein them in.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jun 27

Or are you advocating for American military involvement to prevent Israel from doing what it's been doing? Because that's what it would have ultimately taken to stop a sovereign Israel from doing whatever it wanted to.

The guardrails are completely off and those that claimed they were supporting Palestinians the most are every bit as responsible for what is happening there now.

AloeVera

(3,293 posts)
41. No one asked for military intervention. It's absurd to claim there were no other options.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:06 AM
Jun 28

Nothing was done, though the US had enormous leverage, to stop Israel.

Without the weapons, the aid and diplomatic cover, the slaughter and systematic destruction would have stopped. It's not rocket science.

Red lines kept disappearing. Where is Rafah now? A pile of rubble by the time Biden left office. It was the last hope that Gaza could still be livable for the Palestinians. It's why it was designated a red line in the first place - and of course why Israel had to destroy it. That nothing was done to prevent it, is not only shameful, it ensured the coming ethnic cleansing. It would simply have been more humane and less vicious had Harris won. But it would have happened, it was inevitable, as the conditions for it were already in place and the scale of destruction would have made it necessary. Same as now.

The blame for all this lies with those who committed these crimes and those who supplied the weapons and funding that made them possible. But to lay the blame on those who wanted to stop Israel in its genocidal tracks is really the ultimate in gaslighting and victim-blaming. It's like saying no one should resist Trump because if you do, something even worse may happen. Or blaming the neighbour who reports domestic abuse because the wife-beater turned murderer killed his wife when the police showed up.

Poll after poll showed Democratic voters by a majority opposed Israel's actions and were not happy with Biden's unwavering, unconditional support for Israel. Not changing course - not just for electoral victory but because it was the right thing to do - carried a huge price, as we saw. And the blame for that does not lie with me or anybody else who looked at the slaughter in Gaza in horror and disgust.

W_HAMILTON

(9,344 posts)
42. There were other options -- several of which WERE tried -- but in the end, Israel did not need anyone's permission...
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:48 PM
Jun 28

...or assistance in doing what they were doing. That is why I asked if you were in favor of military intervention to stop Israel because that was the only way that would have put an end to it. Israel has been rebuked by the UN -- hell, Israel has been rebuked by the U.S., among many other countries. Has any of it stopped them? No, because they are a sovereign nation more than capable of doing what they have done to Gaza without the need for anyone else.

And Biden and his administration did try to negotiate a ceasefire, as well as many other humanitarian efforts to help the Palestinians. But it's now been shown that Netanyahu was just trying to run out the clock in the hopes that Trump would get elected and he would be completely free to do whatever he wanted.

Those that thought they were helping Gaza and its Palestinians by denouncing Biden's efforts and refusing to vote for Kamala, Trump and Netanyahu thank you for being their useful idiots.

erodriguez

(896 posts)
12. It's genocide.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jun 27

IDF is starving people and then shooting them because they are lining up for food too early.

hedda_foil

(16,781 posts)
7. I am far from an apologist but all these horrendous statements
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jun 27

I am far from an apologist but all these horrendous statements are from October 2023, in the immediate aftermath of the terrible Hamas attack on Israeli civilians,

David__77

(24,310 posts)
8. A sampling of comments from recent months.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:48 AM
Jun 27

“The children and women must be separated and the adults in Gaza must be eliminated. We are being too considerate,” Vaturi said during an interview with Kol BaRama radio in February 2025, when he also called Palestinians “subhumans” and said the West Bank would be turned into Gaza next.

Vaturi is deputy speaker of the Israeli parliament.

“I’m not sure you’re speaking for us when you say we want to treat every child and every woman. I hope you don’t stand behind that statement either. When fighting a group like this, the distinctions that exist in a normal world don’t exist,” said Likud parliament member Amit Halevi in the Knessest, in response to a statement from an Israeli doctor saying suffering children should get painkillers, May 2025.

“I’m not sure you’re speaking for us when you say we want to treat every child and every woman. I hope you don’t stand behind that statement either. When fighting a group like this, the distinctions that exist in a normal world don’t exist,” said Likud parliament member Amit Halevi in the Knessest, in response to a statement from an Israeli doctor saying suffering children should get painkillers, May 2025.

Gimpyknee

(370 posts)
14. A poll taken earlier this year found nearly half of Israelis supported its army killing all Palestinians in Gaza.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jun 27

Lonestarblue

(12,814 posts)
16. I know. I have acquaintances in Israel. They do not support this attitude.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jun 27

It’s heartbreaking to see what is happening with almost no pushback from world leaders. I do not expect the US under Trump’s heavy thumb to do anything, but EU leaders have the power either as a bloc or as individual countries (mire possible) to refuse to trade with Israel and impose heavy economic sanctions to force Netanyahu to back down. Are they so afraid of Trump and tariffs that they are willing to ignore the genocide taking place before their eyes?

When the NATO Secretary-General refers to Trump as Daddy needing to discipline a child, we’re seeing incredible capitulation to a tyrant. Rutte later excused his words as nothing more than asking whether Trump would stay with the family of NATO. I understand MAGA and Republicans treating Trump as an all-powerful God. I do not understand European leaders doing the same. The EU economy is not quite as strong as the US, but they are not helpless by any measure.

Grins

(8,620 posts)
19. It sounds better in German.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jun 27

Move over Germany, there’s a new Himmler in town.

My dislike of Israel, and specifically the Likud, in the past 30+ years has evolved into outright animosity. They have become what they once hated and feared.

Mosby

(18,793 posts)
25. So you think Jews are the new Nazis?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jun 27

Is that what you mean here:

They have become what they once hated and feared.

biophile

(832 posts)
29. Steven Miller
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jun 27

I believe some people who are of Jewish heritage can be considered new Nazis.

Mossfern

(4,107 posts)
31. Funny
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jun 27

How some here compare Jews with Nazis (c'mon, you know there are posters who imply that) don't post much if anything about the Jewish organizations trying to aid Palestinians and are ardently opposed to Netanyahu and the right wing in Israel - who descry the horrific actions of the settler movement?

Exp

(443 posts)
21. Who knew?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:02 PM
Jun 27

Oh, just about EVERYBODY who isn't flying Israel's flag.

The sane left called it genocide, we were trounced as anti-semetic.

The sane left called Israel's leaders fascists, we were tagged as alarmists.

Take a fucking look in the mirror.

When a group steals land, occupies those under your jurisdiction, bulldozes their farms and houses, what? Can't understand they are going to hit back? On what friggin' planet ?!



marble falls

(67,049 posts)
27. Israel's territorial ambitions and the methods employed to accomplish it need to be "eliminated".
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:45 PM
Jun 27

AloeVera

(3,293 posts)
33. Yes. The gaslighting must no longer be allowed to prevail either.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jun 27

The West has swallowed whole Israel's decades of propaganda, some unwittingly, some not.

As just one example, Israel is not the poor defenceless innocent victim just minding its business and yearning to live in peace, surrounded by nasty, hostile Arabs/Muslim nations. In reality, once you take the hasbara blinkers off, you realize Israel is an agressive, expansionist state that has been terrorizing its neighbours for decades. Invading and starting pre-emptive and now even "preventive" wars, meddling in their internal politics looking for regime change (Syria being the latest) disrespecting their sovereignty, egging on and manipulating the US to start wars, etc - all the while being the only clandestinely permitted nuclear-armed nation in the Middle East, with all the military and strategic, geopolitical advantages that confers. It really is the Goliath pretending to be David and it's way past time to rein it in.

Unless of course we agree with its ambitions and don't mind the methods, and that probability is the incomprehensible and dismaying part to me and has been for many years now.


Beastly Boy

(13,071 posts)
36. Of course Israel is not the poor defenseless innocent victim. And that bothers the hell out of a lot of Jew haters.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:27 PM
Jun 27

No, Israel is a powerful, resilient, competent, merciless victim that fights back. Something that the many overtly menacing enemies which surround the Jewish state on all sides cannot fathom. Nevertheless, Israel has been ready and willing to exchange land for peace, with only one of the many enemies it is surrounded by, Egypt, ever accepting the offer. The rest of its hostile Arab neighbors consistently rejected land for peace ever since 1967. Did any of them ever offer Israel peace for land? Not once. An undeniable fact which is nevertheless being habitually denied: since 1967, Israel gave up two thirds of the land in its control. For peace.

If there was any truth in the fairy tale of the land grabbing genocidal Israel, why is it still one third of the land it used to be? And why is 30% of its citizens are Arab Palestinians?

Yeah, Israel's neighbors are terrorized by the fact that it exists. Tough, that doesn't create in Israel a sense of obligation to quietly disappear.

patphil

(8,087 posts)
32. Isaac Herzog, Israel's president, said at a press conference on 13 October
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:23 PM
Jun 27

“It’s an entire nation out there that is responsible. it’s not true this rhetoric about civilians not aware not involved, it’s absolutely not true …” Isaac Herzog, Israel’s president, said at a press conference on 13 October (in English).”

When I read that, I had to wonder if he was talking about Palestinians in Gaza, or Jews in Israel.
From my point of view, the Jews of Israel are not stopping at what had progressed into Ethnic Cleansing, but is looking more like Genocide every day. I never thought I'd say that, but what else can it be?
One thing I can tell you is that it's long past being a war of defense by Israel. Their cruelty and brutality is evident. They want every surviving Palestine out of Gaza. Eventually the West Bank will follow.
From the river to the sea.

snot

(11,207 posts)
35. I'd done all the reckoning I needed
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:17 PM
Jun 27

about 50,000 deaths ago.

Whatever the average Israeli knows or doesn't know, why are we still giving Israel a single additional bullet or dime?

Beastly Boy

(13,071 posts)
37. The airwaves of the Arab states Israel is surrounded by and beyond have been full of pro-genocide propaganda since 1948.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jun 27

And they still keep it up unabated.

Not a peep from The Guardian.

Jack Valentino

(2,838 posts)
39. UNITED NATIONS should send 'peace-keeping troops' to Gaza,
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:40 AM
Jun 28

to protect unarmed civilians against GENOCIDAL IDF troops...

and Israel's nuclear weapons ought to be taken away from them, JUST LIKE IRAN---

"BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!"



Yes, it comes down to that, never would have imagined myself
saying those words a few years ago.....

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