As in 2000, 2016, and 2024, those who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee by either voting for

[lostincalifornia]

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third party or not voting, demonstrated that there is no cure for stupidity.

Three times, three times to save our Democracy, and three times they pissed it down the toilet.

[Johonny]

1. The people voting GOP for their populous agenda

Focused on the middle class and working man . . . Those are the really stupid ones.

[Mysterian]

2. Oh great

Very helpful and informative post.

[Xavier Breath]

3. 2016 was such vice you named it twice.

[lostincalifornia]

7. It was a typo, and I edited it to include 2024, but your point is right on. Thanks.

[SSJVegeta]

4. Two well funded populist candidates should always be on the ballot in the general election

There is so much palpable anger against the establishment that the idiots will literally vote for Hitler if he was the only populist running against an establishment candidate. But Hitler and FDR and establishment? Hitler votes would mostly go to FDR, ensuring the establishment candidate or FDR win and splitting the stupid vote. There are no cures for stupid, but there are some effective remedies.

[leftstreet]

5. How to woo "stupid" people. Must be Friday n/t

[biocube]

6. I'm fine if we blame non-voters and third-party voters

because they deserve it. As long as we also blame people that voted for Hillary in the primary. You can't tell me presidential politics is helplessly sexist and also vote for her to face a democracy-threatening guy like Trump. Especially one with high unfavorability-ratings among Democrats and independents.

[RandomNumbers]

8. While I agree with you in the essence, the over-the-top trashing of Hillary

BEFORE the primary, IMHO, contributed to her loss in the general.

I lost a lot of respect for the far left when many I know personally in that group showed zero restraint in amplifying every lie and exaggeration they could to try to tarnish her so their guy could win. It was so bad I was practically holding my nose when I voted for Bernie in the primary. I WANTED Bernie over Hillary - but I got VERY tired of the lies. Some of those same "far left" people I know, voted for Trump or didn't vote in the general - at least they told me that. They had become so convinced of her awfulness that they actually thought Trump was better. I do think Bernie could have been more vocal in pushing his followers back to support her.

I don't know how we fix it, but if we don't, Democrats will keep losing and the Supreme Court will keep getting worse.

I would prefer we don't have the establishment picking favorites, and I would prefer we replaced plurality winner with ranked choice voting, but obviously I don't always get what I want and we have to try to get the best solution in the world that we have, not the one we fantasize.