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G_j

(40,527 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:18 PM Jun 27

Birth rights, How far back are we going?

How far back are we going? Because last I recall from History class the only ones with birth rights in this country are Native Americans!

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Birth rights, How far back are we going? (Original Post) G_j Jun 27 OP
How far back? The Middle Ages. marble falls Jun 27 #1
The ruling wasn't on Birth Right Citizenship Abnredleg Jun 27 #2
Yep. I'm a seventh generation American. If my sixth great grandparents did not have birth rights, Scrivener7 Jun 27 #3
I think the indigenous people should decide.............. Lovie777 Jun 27 #4
The decision wasn't about birthright citizenship. Ocelot II Jun 27 #5
eos dweller Jun 27 #7
Baron, Traitor tot, Eric, Ivanka LW1977 Jun 27 #6

Abnredleg

(1,122 posts)
2. The ruling wasn't on Birth Right Citizenship
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jun 27

But rather the scope and scale of court injunctions. The fight goes on.

Scrivener7

(56,539 posts)
3. Yep. I'm a seventh generation American. If my sixth great grandparents did not have birth rights,
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:24 PM
Jun 27

that means their children were born to non-citizens. If those children also don't have birth rights to citizenship, they are not citizens either, nor were their children, nor their children, nor their children, and so on down to me.

So who is actually a citizen, then?

Ocelot II

(126,275 posts)
5. The decision wasn't about birthright citizenship.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jun 27

It was procedural - only about whether a federal district court could issue a nationwide injunction. The plaintiffs in this case were challenging Trump's EO attempting to limit birthright citizenship, and SCOTUS said the injunction could be upheld only for these plaintiffs. Other people wanting to challenge the EO would have to do so themselves or by class action. The decision also applies to cases before the asshole judge in Texas who's been trying to limit abortion rights nationally.

dweller

(26,870 posts)
7. eos
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:37 PM
Jun 27

Limits to Executive Order Power:
Executive orders cannot override existing laws passed by Congress or violate constitutional rights.
Judicial Review:
Executive orders are subject to judicial review, meaning that they can be challenged in court and potentially struck down if deemed unlawful, notes the American Civil Liberties Union

So, class action suits to follow ?

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