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littlemissmartypants

(28,456 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 02:11 PM Jun 27

Tempers are high' on Supreme Court after 'jarring' exchange: legal expert

By Tom Boggioni
June 27, 2025 12:02 PM ET

Reacting to reporting that Justice Sonia Sotomayor took 15 minutes to read a scathing dissent with the court's conservative majority's ruling on birthright citizenship, legal analyst Melissa Murray pointed to a change in courtroom demeanor.

"I understand that Justice Sotomayor, still reading her dissent from the bench," MSNBC host Ana Cabrera prompted her guest. "We also have a dissent from Justice [Ketanji Brown] Jackson who writes in her dissent the court's decision to permit the executive to violate the Constitution with respect to anyone who has not yet sued is 'an existential threat to the rule of law.'"

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"Well, it seems very clear, Anna, that tempers are high on both sides, on both Justice Sotomayor and Justice Jackson dissenting; Justice Sotomayor choosing to read her dissent from the bench," Murray replied. "That's not something that always happens; they reserve that for the most forceful dissents in the cases that they think matter the most."

"But she is basically into a 15-minute read here, which is one of the longest public dissents that she has made. So she clearly thinks this is really important, and it is likely that we may see something from Justice Jackson as well," she continued. "And also the cross exchanges between the justices here show that tempers are short on this court. The clip that Julia earlier read from Justice Jackson, from Justice Barrett about Justice Jackson, it's a little short, a little jarring in its tone. It's not typically what you would expect from life tenured colleagues."
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https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-tempers-new-ruling/

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Tempers are high' on Supreme Court after 'jarring' exchange: legal expert (Original Post) littlemissmartypants Jun 27 OP
Kick & Rec. nt Ilsa Jun 27 #1
Preach, Sister!!! n/t returnee Jun 27 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 27 #3
I fear you're absolutely correct. Pacifist Patriot Jun 27 #6
Why do you think either one of those men will resign? irisblue Jun 27 #7
I spell her name "A-loose" OMGWTF Jun 27 #9
They're likely to die before they can retire. Or Turnip might *insist* they step down, so he can appoint a couple of ... eppur_se_muova Jun 28 #20
Because they know they will be replaced by fellow RW nuts underpants Jun 28 #27
They want to be replaced when there's a clear red senate majority and president FBaggins Jun 28 #28
Worst president ever. Worst SCOTUS ever. Worst GOP ever. Initech Jun 27 #4
I don't know how, but we need term limits on the SCOTUS. Dan Jun 27 #5
13. A Truth and Reconciliation Commission will be formed to uncover OMGWTF Jun 27 #8
Thats what I've been calling for for months! slightlv Jun 27 #15
One can dream, can't we? Oh, wait - that's grounds for extradition. erronis Jun 27 #11
I agree 100%... GiqueCee Jun 28 #21
Unfortunately that would take a Constitutional amendment COL Mustard Jun 28 #22
Probably this goes without saying.... brakester Jun 28 #33
True...and yet... COL Mustard Jun 28 #34
First we need to get big money out of our electoral process. CrispyQ Jun 28 #26
not 11 SonOfNebanaube Jun 28 #29
The fascist republican appointed justices HAVE GOT TO GO!!!! BComplex Jun 27 #10
This Supreme court is the most activist, corrupt SC in history. louis-t Jun 27 #12
J F C!! elleng Jun 27 #13
The dissents are chilling Johnny2X2X Jun 27 #14
The Heritage Foundation..... SergeStorms Jun 27 #16
And this ruling was the coup de grace. BattleRow Jun 27 #17
That photo seems really, even shockingly, fitting. calimary Jun 27 #18
I am glad that Justice Sotomayor read her dissent LetMyPeopleVote Jun 27 #19
The civil war will be waged in the streets Hornedfrog2000 Jun 28 #23
Good for Sotomayor. She expresses exactly my reaction to the court's majority ruling that "permit(s) the executive to Martin68 Jun 28 #24
Just FYI wryter2000 Jun 28 #25
We are living under a dictatorship. It is delusional to pretend otherwise. dalton99a Jun 28 #30
Unless they hildegaard28 Jun 28 #31
This is LITERALLY the definition of both-siderism Bluetus Jun 28 #32

Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

irisblue

(35,455 posts)
7. Why do you think either one of those men will resign?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jun 27

Who is the Cannon you speak of? Aileen Cannon?

eppur_se_muova

(39,454 posts)
20. They're likely to die before they can retire. Or Turnip might *insist* they step down, so he can appoint a couple of ...
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 07:16 AM
Jun 28

... young punks to hold the SCOTUS firmly to the right for decades to come.

If Turnip doesn't do it, look for GOP "think" tanks to suggest the idea.

underpants

(191,549 posts)
27. Because they know they will be replaced by fellow RW nuts
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jun 28

They don’t have to hang on like many justices do waiting for another election and weighing the balance of the Senate.

FBaggins

(28,257 posts)
28. They want to be replaced when there's a clear red senate majority and president
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:11 PM
Jun 28

That might be next year if there looks like any chance of Democrats picking up the senate next November... but they may wait for 2027 or even 2028 since that doesn't appear likely at this point.

I don't see Cannon having a shot. Maybe an appelate seat toward the end of Trump's term... but even that seems unlikely.

Initech

(105,687 posts)
4. Worst president ever. Worst SCOTUS ever. Worst GOP ever.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 03:03 PM
Jun 27

Fox News really sucks at running our government.

Dan

(4,833 posts)
5. I don't know how, but we need term limits on the SCOTUS.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 03:13 PM
Jun 27

If Americans ever get control of our government again, there are a few things that should be done:

1. Put Trump on trial for his life.
2. Declare the GOP a terrorist organization.
3. Build a SC that protects and supports the Constitution.
4. Intern all of the Trump enablers.
5. Tax 100% all income over a billion dollars.
6. Tax Christian churches until they find Christ again.
7. Declare ICE a terrorist organization.
8. Remove the DOJ from under the Executive Branch.
9. Members of Congress should receive the average of the health care that
The citizens of their respective states receive.
10. POD casters that receive foreign money must be declared.
11. Criminalize using Viagra or any ED drug.
12. It would be nice to have a free press again, not one owned by the Oligarchs and one free from the profit motive.

OMGWTF

(4,849 posts)
8. 13. A Truth and Reconciliation Commission will be formed to uncover
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jun 27

all of the fkery the Rethuglicans have done to us since 1981.

GiqueCee

(2,573 posts)
21. I agree 100%...
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 08:20 AM
Jun 28

... but churches should taxed, PERIOD. and number 9 should be turned upside down so that ALL Americans can receive the same health care that elected officials enjoy, AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE. WE pay for it, so WE should get it, too.
And this bullshit that anyone can be president has gone too far. WAY too far. Hair stylists must have more training for their jobs than political candidates, for chrissake.
Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate I've ever seen – and I'm OLD – but she had committed the crime of being a woman. As did Kamala Harris.

COL Mustard

(7,511 posts)
22. Unfortunately that would take a Constitutional amendment
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jun 28

Extremely unlikely in the current political climate.

brakester

(385 posts)
33. Probably this goes without saying....
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 01:37 PM
Jun 28

but birthright citizenship IS in the constitution and can't be changed willy-nilly by a batch of unelected cold-hearted b$-turds.

Just saying....

COL Mustard

(7,511 posts)
34. True...and yet...
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 02:56 PM
Jun 28

We're at this point in time where maybe they will reinterpret the wording. It's all over at that point.

CrispyQ

(39,993 posts)
26. First we need to get big money out of our electoral process.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jun 28

As long as money equals speech, our voice will always be drowned out. Not sure how we go about that when the ones who can change it are part of the set who benefit from it.

SonOfNebanaube

(42 posts)
29. not 11
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jun 28

In many cases it's used to reduce swelling of the prostate gland. It's bad enough that I have to worry about prostate cancer from my step father's exposure to Agent Orange.

BComplex

(9,493 posts)
10. The fascist republican appointed justices HAVE GOT TO GO!!!!
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 03:51 PM
Jun 27

This country needs to get these republican appointed justices OFF THE COURT.

louis-t

(24,422 posts)
12. This Supreme court is the most activist, corrupt SC in history.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jun 27

And there's not much guesswork involved.

Johnny2X2X

(23,083 posts)
14. The dissents are chilling
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 04:16 PM
Jun 27

Basically you have no constitutional rights unless you sue after they have been violated.

Trump’s literally a dictator now. The Constitution no longer protects you.

SergeStorms

(19,670 posts)
16. The Heritage Foundation.....
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jun 27

has installed SC Justices who are tearing our heritage down to the ground. How ironic (or is that "moronic) .
The coup is complete.

calimary

(87,102 posts)
18. That photo seems really, even shockingly, fitting.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 04:57 PM
Jun 27

There we see the Supreme Court, hidden behind some big somewhat-see-through screening. Awwwwww... ain't that convenient!

We can see through it, though, just like we can see through the rationalizations that come from this messed-up Court.

Hornedfrog2000

(376 posts)
23. The civil war will be waged in the streets
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jun 28

Can we quit pretending we live in a democracy before we cant even leave this shithole country anymore? This ends with blood, and its because they are trying to steal our freedom.

Martin68

(26,182 posts)
24. Good for Sotomayor. She expresses exactly my reaction to the court's majority ruling that "permit(s) the executive to
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 10:18 AM
Jun 28

violate the Constitution with respect to anyone who has not yet sued (because it) is 'an existential threat to the rule of law.'"

wryter2000

(47,915 posts)
25. Just FYI
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jun 28

Melissa Murray and her family and her family went to my church when they lived in Oakland. Plus, she and her husband were my sister's students at Yale. Lovely people.

hildegaard28

(591 posts)
31. Unless they
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jun 28

Plan on putting poison in the conservative justices food/drinks, their dissents will do no good.

Bluetus

(1,311 posts)
32. This is LITERALLY the definition of both-siderism
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 01:26 PM
Jun 28

Well done MSNBC

"Emotions are high on both sides"

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