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demmiblue

(38,562 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:52 AM Jul 1

Senator Mark Warner: Sick and tired of Republican Senators coming to me privately saying, "Mark, keep speaking up...

Sick and tired of Republican Senators coming to me privately saying, “Mark, keep speaking up, you’re our conscience.”

I don’t want to be their damn conscience.

I want them to vote their conscience.

Senator Mark Warner (@markwarner.bsky.social) 2025-07-01T10:24:26.958Z


Damn straight!
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Senator Mark Warner: Sick and tired of Republican Senators coming to me privately saying, "Mark, keep speaking up... (Original Post) demmiblue Jul 1 OP
Warner needs to name these Senators or else it's all bullshit and I don't believe him. LonePirate Jul 1 #1
Democrats respect the old Senate rules while Republicans have no rules. dem4decades Jul 1 #3
As they say on the interwebs, "Pics or it didn't happen." sop Jul 1 #4
name them jaymac Jul 1 #11
And then what? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 1 #35
So many phones, so few recordings. kerouac2 Jul 1 #2
He should ALWAYS ask, "Can I quote you on that ?". If the answer is no, don't give them any more time. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 1 #5
"I want them to vote their conscience." OldBaldy1701E Jul 1 #6
Exactly DENVERPOPS Jul 1 #45
How many goddamn times has he said this? Aviation Pro Jul 1 #7
Warner wants to be seen by Virginia Republican voters as someone their party will work with and can trust. sop Jul 1 #8
Sounds like he's chumming, the fish are wary. Magoo48 Jul 1 #10
I don't think it's bs. I think he and other Ds are desperate to find a way spooky3 Jul 1 #28
Name the fucking names then Aviation Pro Jul 1 #30
What will that accomplish? They will deny it and be pissed off at him. spooky3 Jul 1 #31
I agree. ShazzieB Jul 1 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Jul 1 #49
Exactly. Name them and shame them or STFU, Warner. VTderry Jul 1 #33
I know it would be kacekwl Jul 1 #9
So glad he's my Senator! COL Mustard Jul 1 #12
As long as nothing horrible happens between now and July 29, he'll be mine too before the month is out! Pacifist Patriot Jul 1 #41
How can they vote with something they don't have? Ray Bruns Jul 1 #13
This is one of those examples that can tell you if you're in a bad marriage. Baitball Blogger Jul 1 #14
Republicans will get a conscience when Mexico pays for the wall and tax cuts trickle down IronLionZion Jul 1 #15
Maybe he should retire? Hornedfrog2000 Jul 1 #16
What will name dropping accomplish? Will it change R votes? Nt spooky3 Jul 1 #29
Three times asked MorbidButterflyTat Jul 1 #40
Term Limits and Low Pay Aepps22 Jul 1 #17
I think they should be paid otherwise the best leave, but it should be based on travelingthrulife Jul 1 #19
Age limits are an excellent idea. BarbD Jul 1 #27
Commercial Airline Pilots DENVERPOPS Jul 1 #47
Term limits maybe ITAL Jul 1 #23
Then we would only have rich people able to run. LisaM Jul 1 #25
Cowards bdamomma Jul 1 #18
That is really pathetic PatSeg Jul 1 #20
That's crazy, these people are lost. America sucks right now. BradBo Jul 1 #21
Those same Senators whining to him will vote for it. Name the fuckers Autumn Jul 1 #22
He needs to name names JustAnotherGen Jul 1 #24
Republicans have consciences? GoCubsGo Jul 1 #26
Do more than a sternly worded text. Exspouse them, say their names. Shame them in front of their own. nt Hotler Jul 1 #32
I wonder if Mark ever considers that they may be playing him Bristlecone Jul 1 #34
Just fucking name them! Bev54 Jul 1 #36
How cowardly of them. stollen Jul 1 #37
Then he needs to follow his own conscience and NAME NAMES in interviews all over the place. MLAA Jul 1 #38
Ummmm, Mark??? People who actually HAVE a conscience do not niyad Jul 1 #39
They want to keep their jobs without losing support sakabatou Jul 1 #42
Cowardice is Their Second Superpower! The Roux Comes First Jul 1 #43
This sounds more like angrychair Jul 1 #44
He needs to publicly call out Murkowski Hassler Jul 1 #46
I want them to HAVE a conscience of their own--- but they mostly don't. Jack Valentino Jul 1 #50
He needs to name names. valleyrogue Jul 1 #51
He needs to name names donheld Jul 2 #52
Call those motherfuckers out! RainCaster Jul 2 #53
Looking at you Susan Collins MaineBlueBear Jul 2 #54
He's neither sick nor tired until he calls out their malaise Jul 2 #55
Call them out and name them! Emile Jul 2 #56
I wonder who he's talking about? Who are the chickenshits who want to oppose Trump, but don't? Oopsie Daisy Jul 2 #57

eppur_se_muova

(39,458 posts)
5. He should ALWAYS ask, "Can I quote you on that ?". If the answer is no, don't give them any more time. nt
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:57 AM
Jul 1

OldBaldy1701E

(8,413 posts)
6. "I want them to vote their conscience."
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:05 AM
Jul 1

BBWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Then you are wasting your time. They have none.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
45. Exactly
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:45 PM
Jul 1

and just by asking that question, it shows the Dem isn't very observant, knowledgeable or reality based,......and has been oblivious to everything for the past 45+ years....

sop

(15,238 posts)
8. Warner wants to be seen by Virginia Republican voters as someone their party will work with and can trust.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:40 AM
Jul 1

He's up for re-election in 2026.

spooky3

(37,656 posts)
28. I don't think it's bs. I think he and other Ds are desperate to find a way
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 1

to break through to at least a few Rs. He is frustrated with D’s lack of power. How can you force people with no shame to feel enough shame to do the right thing?

spooky3

(37,656 posts)
31. What will that accomplish? They will deny it and be pissed off at him.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jul 1

If naming names would work, I’m sure he would have named them.

I’m sick of anger directed toward Ds when voters failed to give them enough Ds to have majority power. Anger (and phone calls, emails etc.) should be directed at Rs and at their voters and people who did not vote at all.

ShazzieB

(21,179 posts)
48. I agree.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:54 PM
Jul 1

I don't know why he'd bother to lie about it. His vote speaks for itself, and the votes of the Republicans are a matter of record as well.

What a bunch of frigging hypocrites. They should shut up and put their votes where their mouths are!

Response to spooky3 (Reply #28)

VTderry

(33 posts)
33. Exactly. Name them and shame them or STFU, Warner.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:23 PM
Jul 1

This bs is his equivalent of Susan Collins' evergreen "concern."

Pacifist Patriot

(25,061 posts)
41. As long as nothing horrible happens between now and July 29, he'll be mine too before the month is out!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jul 1

But I've never experienced a smooth real estate transaction in my life, so I'm not holding my breath. This has been too many months of outrageously stressful hurdles already.

Baitball Blogger

(50,499 posts)
14. This is one of those examples that can tell you if you're in a bad marriage.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:06 AM
Jul 1

Husband: I agree with you, wife, your sister is a terrible, terrible person. She was wrong, you were right. But don't let her know I feel this way or she'll stop liking me too.

Hornedfrog2000

(377 posts)
16. Maybe he should retire?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:18 AM
Jul 1

Then someone younger without all the baggage can drop names, because we have nothing to lose, and it is starting to look like nothing to gain either.

Aepps22

(361 posts)
17. Term Limits and Low Pay
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 1

If there were term limits and these politicians got low pay we wouldn’t be here. They won’t speak up because they love the perks and the power the job gives them and they are more afraid to lose those than anything else. They know this bill is wrong but they are too self interested to do the right thing.

travelingthrulife

(2,894 posts)
19. I think they should be paid otherwise the best leave, but it should be based on
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jul 1

the actual work they do. If they only work 20 hours in a week they should only be paid for that...like us. Same benefits we get, none of this 'for life' junk.

I think they need to establish an age limit. People are active into their seventies and eighties but that doesn't mean they can handle the job. The hospital I used to work at had to do that because the doctors wanted to keep practicing into their eighties. Age related deficits were noted on some. They kept those that wanted to stay active in a mentorship program for fully active doctors.

BarbD

(1,329 posts)
27. Age limits are an excellent idea.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jul 1

It would force seasoned congressmen to mentor replacements. I know from experience -- at 87 -- that it takes me longer to process information. 70 would be a good idea. Maybe 75.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
47. Commercial Airline Pilots
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:59 PM
Jul 1

have a mandatory retirement age.....it used to be 62...........I don't know about anyone else, but if I am a passenger on an airline, and the plane is having problems, I would rather have an experienced 65 year old, than a 25 YO at the yoke who has maybe 1-2 thousand hours.

I had a friend who United retired when he was 62, and was still sharp as a tack..... He had 36,000 hours with United when they retired him.
He got a small plane of his own, a cessna 210 centurion????? He flew all around the country for decades until he was 95 YO......
Of course he had to have all the continual testing a person needs as a pilot, on a regular basis, medical, skills, etc......which we should subject ALL politicians, of any age to, on a regular basis.....

ITAL

(1,120 posts)
23. Term limits maybe
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:14 AM
Jul 1

Low pay wouldn't matter -- most of these people were wealthy before getting into politics in the first place.

LisaM

(29,286 posts)
25. Then we would only have rich people able to run.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:39 AM
Jul 1

Both my Senators have been in office for quite a while (Murray and Cantwell) and the last thing Washington needs is for them to be pushed out. We would most likely end up with a tech bro or some right-wing sheriff type from Eastern Washington.

JustAnotherGen

(35,700 posts)
24. He needs to name names
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:25 AM
Jul 1

Be the fucking bus that runs them over.

Receipts or it didn't happen.

Krasnov knows better than to place calls to or put pressure on the opposition party. He might as well.go scorched earth and throw these people under the bus.

These are unprecedented times. Might as well tear all sense of decorum down.

By covering for the cowards - they win. They get Krasnov's support in the primary.

GoCubsGo

(34,085 posts)
26. Republicans have consciences?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jul 1

Could've had me fooled. Bunch of sociopaths--every last fucking one of them.

Hotler

(13,359 posts)
32. Do more than a sternly worded text. Exspouse them, say their names. Shame them in front of their own. nt
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jul 1

Bristlecone

(10,811 posts)
34. I wonder if Mark ever considers that they may be playing him
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:34 PM
Jul 1

‘Cause he should know by now that this sort of whisper campaign they involve him in is bullshit.

MLAA

(19,355 posts)
38. Then he needs to follow his own conscience and NAME NAMES in interviews all over the place.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:31 PM
Jul 1

niyad

(125,311 posts)
39. Ummmm, Mark??? People who actually HAVE a conscience do not
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:52 PM
Jul 1

delegate their duties to others.

sakabatou

(45,104 posts)
42. They want to keep their jobs without losing support
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jul 1

Because if they speak badly about the mad king, they'll be voted out, or worse.

The Roux Comes First

(1,746 posts)
43. Cowardice is Their Second Superpower!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:53 PM
Jul 1

But I don't want to meet their launderer (apologies to Zevon); all the rub-off fecal matter must be hell to clean off their clothes.

angrychair

(10,897 posts)
44. This sounds more like
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 04:01 PM
Jul 1

He is running interference, trying to soften the edges, for his Republican buddies.

There is zero evidence in the public record that any of them have any reservations about any of this. I mean many of them have stated they don't think this bill is harsh enough.

RainCaster

(12,990 posts)
53. Call those motherfuckers out!
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 02:37 AM
Jul 2

They have no balls, morals, scruples or intelligence. So expose them for what they are- useless.

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