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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think the feud is going to get to the point that Elan will reveal how they cheated to put TSF back in the WH.
"Without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop and head back home to South Africa," wrote the president in a Truth Social post, adding, "perhaps we should have DOGE take a good, hard, look at this?" The president was referring to the government efficiency group that Musk ran until recently.

Dave Bowman
(5,544 posts)nt
Justice matters.
(8,678 posts)for the crime of rigging an election.
Not sure if he wants to risk prison time or huge fines or both, but I doubt he wants to risk it.
Blue Dotty
(141 posts)chowder66
(11,019 posts)Why would he when he would want to use it again and what if Democrats take back the majority? He would be setting himself up for prison time, lawsuits and self destruction.
On edit: he hasn't even "released" the Epstein files he was raving about.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,321 posts)It is unlikely to have been rigged but it is possible and I'm keeping a mostly open mind.
sop
(15,332 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,807 posts)trump holds all the cards. Elon can't beat the entire US government and would probably have to go live in Mexico or Canada.
Fiendish Thingy
(20,210 posts)After Musk confesses he rigged the election, how does the rest of your fantasy play out?
Americanme
(256 posts)I hope Elon reveals something so bad, they both end up in prison.
Ms. Toad
(37,378 posts)This "they stole the election" is getting tiresome. It was tiresome when it was our claim in 2004, it was tiresome when Trump snatched the claim from us in 2020, and it is tiresome now that we've taken it back.
The arguments are literally the same - often citing the same conspiracy theorists who are all too happy switch their party loyalty to whoever will tout their theories.
(Note: I am talking about voting machine conspiracies - NOT the vote suppression, voter purges, limitation on voting hours, restriction of use of absentee ballots, enhanced voter ID requirements - all of those happened, and (by design) hit Democrats harder than Republicans.)
Dan
(4,851 posts)My vote has always been the L&A software modifications post certification.
Ms. Toad
(37,378 posts)and intimate connections (as in I've read the software from more than one vendor).
Nothing is post-certification. All changes have to go through a follow-up certification before they are implemented.
That's one of the reasons the call for open source software in the early 2000s was so dangerous. In theory open source software has the best ability to avoid security risks because anyone can see it and change it - so risks are corrected almost as soon as they are found. It works for things like computer operating systems.
But as a practical matter, in the election scenario, the fixes can't be implement before the software is recertified. That means the risks are known, publicized, and can be exploited for weeks to months before a fix can be implemented to stop the exploitation. In addition to financial motives, that's one of the reasons for proprietary software.
Dan
(4,851 posts)That there were minor software updates made to the software after the certification. That is the one concern/issue that I was most wanted investigated.
C_U_L8R
(47,741 posts)before that's allowed to happen.
Maru Kitteh
(30,419 posts)how to keep all his money first.
I dont really buy into their little feud to begin with. I think its 99% theatre.
C_U_L8R
(47,741 posts)Not sure who's pulling the strings... but probably neither of these clowns.
Baitball Blogger
(50,600 posts)flvegan
(65,153 posts)What else to expect but WWE-esque bullshit from a gang of idiots playing to an audience of reality tv addicts.
republianmushroom
(20,789 posts)TinyBlueDot
(18 posts)I have an idea but please explain it to my friend who's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Native
(7,200 posts)Sogo
(6,490 posts)nt.
Native
(7,200 posts)Lulu KC
(8,169 posts)Life. Mind-blowing.
misanthrope
(8,963 posts)Is that he has the kind of wealth that can not only ensure his own protection from Trump's reach but then fund dark activities to wreak havoc on Mango Mussolini, including paying for chaos agents. Musk could find ways to heighten Trump's already notable paranoia through psy-ops, driving the cult leader into greater depths of lunacy.
There's a lot of sinister things lurking in the darkest corners of our cyber-world.
pnwmom
(110,001 posts)Blue Full Moon
(2,519 posts)Fil1957
(153 posts)if he gets really pissed off, is spill the beans on Trump's friendship with Epstein.
ToxMarz
(2,512 posts)and start droping Bunker Buster bombs all over the country.
liberalgunwilltravel
(878 posts)Musk got access to the most sensitive data of all Americans, including Trump's. There are many ways he could use that information about Trump. He also has a bunch of so called computer whiz kids. That gives him options, if he chooses to use them. The dream option would be to hack Trump's crypto accounts and drain them. He could also probably find any foreign backers, if he chose to do so to publicize who Trump's handlers are. So much data, so little time.
gordianot
(15,636 posts)Beautiful!
Orrex
(65,660 posts)ancianita
(41,183 posts)eyewitness, there wouldn't be anyone in this govt who would prosecute with it. His revengeful telling of the truth (and producing documented evidence) that implicates his own lawbreaking would get him nowhere but deported.
ashredux
(2,738 posts)Then, he will actually leave the country, tell the story, and then once Trump is gone, the Democrats will pardon him for his testimony
Maybe?
MsLeopard
(1,302 posts)I hadnt thought of that scenario, but I like it!!
Dave Bowman
(5,544 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,897 posts)JT45242
(3,513 posts)Non violent crime. Rich defendant with connections.
orangecrush
(25,890 posts)We are truly and utterly fucked.
kacekwl
(8,475 posts)yellow dahlia
(2,618 posts)He hinted that he could get tougher.
malaise
(287,203 posts)That is all