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Greg Abbott bragging up Texas power grid, forgot to mention one little fact. (Original Post) Swede Jul 1 OP
It wasn't Biden's fault. It was Texas republicans. STFU Greg. Initech Jul 1 #1
Abbott is a real piece of shit Skittles Jul 1 #2
And Trumphole wants to add tax to it. twodogsbarking Jul 1 #3
Most of that wind comes from Jerry2144 Jul 1 #5
As long as it doesn't come from Mexico. twodogsbarking Jul 2 #18
I forgot Taco Bell's contribution to that wind Jerry2144 Jul 2 #23
They really should be grateful to Biden just for making their shitty independent power grid Karasu Jul 1 #4
B.S. Iamscrewed Jul 1 #6
I'm so sick of these lying liars. Joinfortmill Jul 1 #7
It is nonsense to consider solar energy as a harbinger of reliabilty. NNadir Jul 1 #8
Below is the data from the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas surfered Jul 1 #11
Without gas plants, they couldn't pretend to "rely" on wind and solar. NNadir Jul 2 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author summer_in_TX Jul 2 #14
Perhaps you've forgotten about batteries? summer_in_TX Jul 2 #15
Perhaps you have forgotten about the laws of thermodynamics and the environmental consequences of material... NNadir Jul 2 #17
Uh, isn't that what solar batteries are for? Prof. Toru Tanaka Jul 2 #20
I regard batteries as environmentally grotesque on thermodyamic and material grounds. NNadir Jul 2 #22
Gov Abbott is also not telling you .. surfered Jul 1 #9
I love this for texas kkmarie Jul 2 #19
Damn Cockroaches Hidning Cha Jul 1 #10
He's all bullshit and bluster now Javaman Jul 1 #12
Knr UTUSN Jul 2 #13
Surprised he didn't mention Windmill Cancer Clusters Torchlight Jul 2 #21
Then there's T. Boone Pickens SpankMe Jul 2 #24
Remember YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT POLITICIANS, he has to hide the bad and only highlight the good, it is a pattern. Brainfodder Jul 2 #25
It's been out multiple times in the last couple of weeks catrose Jul 2 #26

twodogsbarking

(14,474 posts)
3. And Trumphole wants to add tax to it.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:08 PM
Jul 1

In 2022, Texas generated over 130,000 gigawatt-hours of electricity from wind and solar. This represents a significant portion of the state's overall electricity consumption, with solar and wind power alone accounting for roughly 31% of the state's total electricity generation. Furthermore, in 2024, wind and solar energy combined to provide approximately 30% of the state's electricity.

Jerry2144

(2,914 posts)
5. Most of that wind comes from
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jul 1

Texas Republiklans bragging about how good a Christian they are while hating on people who aren’t just like them, including Mr. Christ himself

Karasu

(1,654 posts)
4. They really should be grateful to Biden just for making their shitty independent power grid
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jul 1

slightly less of a fucking punchline.

Iamscrewed

(486 posts)
6. B.S.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:47 PM
Jul 1

Looking at recent history I seem to remember that they have had some issues with their "independent power grid".

NNadir

(36,193 posts)
8. It is nonsense to consider solar energy as a harbinger of reliabilty.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:28 PM
Jul 1

Without dangerous natural gas, solar energy is useless.

Why does it seem difficult to understand that the sun does not shine 24/7?

surfered

(8,014 posts)
11. Below is the data from the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jul 1

Without current wind and solar generation, Texas could not meet the current demand for electricity.

https://www.ercot.com/

NNadir

(36,193 posts)
16. Without gas plants, they couldn't pretend to "rely" on wind and solar.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 03:42 AM
Jul 2

I don't think it's a function of environmental responsibility to use less gas because one has built redundant systems.

I oppose using any gas, any and all fossil fuels.

Peak energy demand on any grid in the US takes place in the early evening. The sun isn't shining then. Building two systems, redundant systems, is not just economically foolish, it's environmentally appalling.

Response to NNadir (Reply #8)

summer_in_TX

(3,699 posts)
15. Perhaps you've forgotten about batteries?
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:31 AM
Jul 2

None of the sources of energy – including natural gas, oil, and gas – are currently sufficient on their own. But wind and solar are a significant part of Texas' power these days. Approximately 30% of our energy comes from renewable sources. This includes significant contributions from wind and solar power.

During the 2022 "Snowpocalypse," much of the power grid failed, with the greatest percentage of failures coming from those dependent on fossil fuels, then nuclear, due to lack of winterization. While some wind turbines failed, most stayed online. Much of Texas was without power for days. An estimated 750 died of the cold.

At our home in Central Texas, we never lost power, but we conserved all we could and used our fireplace to stay warm, wiping out our firewood supply. Most of our town and of Austin did lose power. Apparently we are near enough to the fire station to share their grid, and it was a priority to keep online.

NNadir

(36,193 posts)
17. Perhaps you have forgotten about the laws of thermodynamics and the environmental consequences of material...
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:00 AM
Jul 2

....demands, like say, cobalt slavery, admittedly more of an ethical issue than an environmental issue, although digging cobalt isn't "green."

I covered the topic of thermodynamics of unsustainable battery garbage here: Pesky Thermodynamics: The Mathematics of Wasting Energy by Storage in Li Batteries

Wasting energy by storing it isn't "green."

I also covered the cobalt demand that those antinuke assholes in Germany would require to cover an incidence of Dunkelflaute:

The Number of Tesla Powerwalls Required That Would Address the Current German Dunkleflaute Event.

In my position, I often hear from people patting themselves on their backs for their bourgeois aeries removed from the world at large.

I'm unimpressed. We are decades and trillions of dollars into the insane reactionary worship of so called "renewable energy." The results are in. The planetary atmosphere is collapsing at an accelerating rate.

I also cover this pretty regularly: New Weekly CO2 Concentration Record Set at the Mauna Loa Observatory, 430.86 ppm

In my tenure at DU, going back to 2002, listening all the time to how great so called "renewable energy" is, the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide has risen by 56.80 ppm as of this writing.

That's appalling. The rate of increase is worse than ever.

NNadir

(36,193 posts)
22. I regard batteries as environmentally grotesque on thermodyamic and material grounds.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:20 AM
Jul 2

I pointed to my reasoning in response another response to my comment.

The big lie in the expensive, reactionary and failed approach to the energy, returning to dependence on the weather that was abandoned in the early 20th century for a reason, this at a time that we have destabilized the weather, is that energy storage is "green." It is no such thing. It's wasteful and destructive.

surfered

(8,014 posts)
9. Gov Abbott is also not telling you ..
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:17 PM
Jul 1

…that demand is growing because of population growth, data centers, AI, and bit coin mining, while the Texas Senate just voted to impose disincentives for new renewable electricity generation. Brownouts and higher electricity costs should follow.

kkmarie

(273 posts)
19. I love this for texas
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 07:05 AM
Jul 2

And perhaps that's why spacenazi is blasting the BBB and the impact it will have on alternative energy.

Elon Musk is establishing two company towns in Texas: Starbase and Snailbrook. Starbase, formerly Boca Chica Village, is located near SpaceX's launch facility in southern Texas, while Snailbrook is emerging in Bastrop County near Austin, where several of Musk's companies are based. Both towns are designed to house and support Musk's employees and their families, reflecting his vision of creating self-sustaining communities centered around his businesses.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/elon-musk-space-x-tesla-town-austin-texas-b2777463.html#:~:text=Musk%20is%20also%2C%20apparently%2C%20bringing,Connett%2C%20it's%20not%20so%20funny.

Cha

(313,103 posts)
10. Damn Cockroaches Hidning
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:48 PM
Jul 1

Who should be getting Credit.

Bowing to Traitor who's Destroying America.

Javaman

(64,261 posts)
12. He's all bullshit and bluster now
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:46 PM
Jul 1

Wait till the Medicare is cut off here in Texas. Then his real bullshit and bluster sociopathy will come out

Torchlight

(5,147 posts)
21. Surprised he didn't mention Windmill Cancer Clusters
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:07 AM
Jul 2

The leading indicator of an irrational mind to dismiss as just more noise.

SpankMe

(3,535 posts)
24. Then there's T. Boone Pickens
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jul 2

The oil magnate who pivoted to wind late in his life. He lost money on his wind projects and cancelled his giant proposed wind farm in the end. But other companies picked up the mantle, and wind now contributes to TX's renewable grid - to the tune of 28% of total electricity produced.

Pickens was worried about dependence on foreign oil and how foreign petrostates could influence America with oil.

Unfortunately, Pickens - who got renewable energy religion late in his life - was a Trumper and anti-Muslim bigot.

Brainfodder

(7,532 posts)
25. Remember YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT POLITICIANS, he has to hide the bad and only highlight the good, it is a pattern.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:21 AM
Jul 2

The U.S.A. is now a country where one political party actively tries to make the other main party look bad as their basic mission, all while doing nothing much positive for the people (status quo) of the country that don't donate to their campaign in heaps?

No raise in minimum wage since 2009, not a nickel to that national minimum tells me all I need to know about POLITICS here: SUCKS!





catrose

(5,296 posts)
26. It's been out multiple times in the last couple of weeks
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 2

So I hadn't noticed it was better

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