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PeaceWave

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Tue Jul 1, 2025, 05:35 PM Jul 1

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) PeaceWave Jul 1 OP
Nevada and Colorado can join us! Initech Jul 1 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 1 #3
I also don't want to have to use a passport every time I go to Vegas or Reno. Initech Jul 1 #4
Were the sane part of Nevada Jerry2144 Jul 1 #7
Yeah, I'd like to attend a Knights game sometime! Initech Jul 1 #9
Should include New Mexico and Arizona as well. Wiz Imp Jul 1 #19
Nah, they should go back to Mexico. Xavier Breath Jul 1 #25
Huh? That's pretty damn offensive. Wiz Imp Jul 1 #27
I didn't say or in any way imply they weren't Democratic. Xavier Breath Jul 1 #31
And I didn't say you said they weren't Democratic. Wiz Imp Jul 1 #33
Well said Wiz Imp. Gimpyknee Jul 1 #34
but you still want to give them back to Mexico...? you DID say THAT... Jack Valentino Jul 1 #44
Yes, I did say that. Xavier Breath Jul 2 #48
Better that Texas did. Jack Valentino Jul 1 #43
Why is Michigan included? Oopsie Daisy Jul 1 #2
Collective punishment? AloeVera Jul 1 #8
You do realize that this whole exercise is pure fantasy right? Nobody is going to "join Canada". Oopsie Daisy Jul 1 #10
Nooo. I thought it was totally serious! AloeVera Jul 1 #11
So you knew it was a farce, and that my response was a farce... Oopsie Daisy Jul 1 #12
There is anger and frustration all around. AloeVera Jul 1 #16
Today is not a bleak day in Canada. Today is Canada Day. Canada Fort, Canada Strong Bernardo de La Paz Jul 1 #32
Yes, it is! Proud Canadians we are, eh? AloeVera Jul 1 #39
I apologize for the Detroit area muslims and the non-voters who threw this state to Trump last year, Jack Valentino Jul 1 #45
Why would Canadians want the US? irisblue Jul 1 #5
Pity for the blue states? LostOne4Ever Jul 1 #21
I doubt that Canada would want us. Even the progressive side of our political spectrum is well to the right of most of Crunchy Frog Jul 1 #6
Maybe they could consider us a partner or even a vassal state LostOne4Ever Jul 1 #22
Of course Canada wouldn't want. Disaffected Jul 1 #23
I love Canada, but no thanks purple_haze Jul 1 #13
we whomst? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 1 #14
Sure leave the rest of us screwed up thanks Tribetime Jul 1 #15
I like it. Include Nevada as part of westcoast Canada. brush Jul 1 #17
Please, I'm begging you - don't forget us here in Central Texas. walkingman Jul 1 #18
NM and Co have more than earned their right to be included LostOne4Ever Jul 1 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jul 1 #24
I would be all for it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 1 #26
Reading the various Posts, was fun, but why would Canada want us, that was a good question. Dan Jul 1 #28
Cede nothing. C_U_L8R Jul 1 #29
Happy Canada Day by the way! nt ImNotGod Jul 1 #30
Delaware resident here evilhime Jul 1 #35
I'm in Michigan DownriverDem Jul 1 #36
We are all being held hostage. Mollyann Jul 1 #37
'Russian trolls' promoted California independence AStern Jul 1 #38
OK. Will I have to figure out ice-hockey and end all my sentences with "Eh"? Ping Tung Jul 1 #40
Restore Alta California JoseBalow Jul 1 #41
This is OUR country--- not theirs... Jack Valentino Jul 1 #42
Make that map go one more down to North Carolina. GoodRaisin Jul 1 #46
I don't think I'd want to do that to Canada thought crime Jul 2 #47

Initech

(105,762 posts)
1. Nevada and Colorado can join us!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 05:38 PM
Jul 1

Response to Initech (Reply #1)

Initech

(105,762 posts)
4. I also don't want to have to use a passport every time I go to Vegas or Reno.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 05:42 PM
Jul 1

And I go to Vegas and Reno frequently.

Jerry2144

(2,918 posts)
7. Were the sane part of Nevada
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 05:51 PM
Jul 1

Here in Las Vegas. Not so much in Nye County or the cow counties. We would fit in better with Canada. Heck, we even have a hockey team

Initech

(105,762 posts)
9. Yeah, I'd like to attend a Knights game sometime!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:11 PM
Jul 1

Wiz Imp

(6,249 posts)
19. Should include New Mexico and Arizona as well.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:50 PM
Jul 1

Xavier Breath

(5,895 posts)
25. Nah, they should go back to Mexico.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jul 1

Seems fair.

Wiz Imp

(6,249 posts)
27. Huh? That's pretty damn offensive.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:37 PM
Jul 1

New Mexico has been a solidly Democratic state for some time now. And Arizona has 2 Democratic Senators and a Democratic Governor.

Not remotely funny if you were trying to make a joke.

Xavier Breath

(5,895 posts)
31. I didn't say or in any way imply they weren't Democratic.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:07 PM
Jul 1

But, you knew that.

I would humbly suggest that, on the scale of what offends, putting words in someone's mouth would have to be right up there.

But, I suspect you knew that, too.

Wiz Imp

(6,249 posts)
33. And I didn't say you said they weren't Democratic.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:23 PM
Jul 1

I didn't put words in your mouth. You said "They Should Go Back To Mexico". I'm sorry but that is super damn offensive. If you can't understand why, then I don't know what to say. I don't even know why I'm responding to a person who appears to enjoy being offensive. You're not funny and you're not clever. I'm done.

Gimpyknee

(421 posts)
34. Well said Wiz Imp.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:28 PM
Jul 1

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
44. but you still want to give them back to Mexico...? you DID say THAT...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:38 PM
Jul 1

If this has something to do with the immorality of the Mexican war,
then of course California and Texas should be included in that package...

Xavier Breath

(5,895 posts)
48. Yes, I did say that.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jul 2

The op also suggests Virginia going to Canada. So, just variations on the same theme: the absurdity of any of our states joining other countries.

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
43. Better that Texas did.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:35 PM
Jul 1

Oopsie Daisy

(6,244 posts)
2. Why is Michigan included?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 05:39 PM
Jul 1

I'm feeling a little "uncommitted" about having them join us.

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
8. Collective punishment?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:09 PM
Jul 1

Rather un-American, isn't it?

And btw Canada would not approve. Speaking as a Canadian.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,244 posts)
10. You do realize that this whole exercise is pure fantasy right? Nobody is going to "join Canada".
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:14 PM
Jul 1

>> Rather un-American, isn't it?
Oh please. Spare me!

If you want to follow this further, SO IS LEAVING THE UNION... that's "unamerican" too, eh?

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
11. Nooo. I thought it was totally serious!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:18 PM
Jul 1

Already cleaning up my spare room for the influx.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,244 posts)
12. So you knew it was a farce, and that my response was a farce...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:22 PM
Jul 1

... but decided to make-it-personal anyway. I see.

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
16. There is anger and frustration all around.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jul 1

Today is a bleak day. In Canada too, but of course mostly in your country.

I should not have interfered and brought my own anger and frustration to an O/P that is about letting off steam using humour on a terrible day.

Mea culpa. I was wrong.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,261 posts)
32. Today is not a bleak day in Canada. Today is Canada Day. Canada Fort, Canada Strong
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:17 PM
Jul 1

("fort" is French for "strong" )

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
39. Yes, it is! Proud Canadians we are, eh?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jul 1

Putting aside war, politics and mayhem in the world in general, it is a great day for Canada. Happy Canada Day! Bonne fête du Canada!

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
45. I apologize for the Detroit area muslims and the non-voters who threw this state to Trump last year,
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:45 PM
Jul 1

but we do have a Democratic governor with +50 approval ratings,
and have had 2 Democratic U.S. Senators since sometime in the 1990's--
and finally flipped our legislature to Democratic control a few years ago,
although we lost one house in the past election....

The 2016 and 2024 victories for Trump were unfortunate flukes,
but we've been solid for the Democratic presidential nominee since 1992,
other than those two unfortunate years....
and I am expecting a Democratic BLOWOUT in Michigan, in 2026 and 2028!

So please don't write us out of the union---- oh wait, LMAO


irisblue

(35,532 posts)
5. Why would Canadians want the US?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jul 1

LostOne4Ever

(9,692 posts)
21. Pity for the blue states?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:58 PM
Jul 1

Also blue states have lots of resources and generate lots of economic activity! So that could also sweeten the deal!

Crunchy Frog

(27,724 posts)
6. I doubt that Canada would want us. Even the progressive side of our political spectrum is well to the right of most of
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 05:49 PM
Jul 1

Canada, and there are so many of us that we'd drown out their own unique national identity and culture(s).

We need to fix our own country, or at least form our own new countries out of the blue states.

LostOne4Ever

(9,692 posts)
22. Maybe they could consider us a partner or even a vassal state
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:59 PM
Jul 1

Rather than full on joining?

Disaffected

(5,784 posts)
23. Of course Canada wouldn't want.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:16 PM
Jul 1

Canada would effectively cease to exist - the population of California alone is about the same as Canada. I'm also guessing the number of MAGAts alone in the joining states would be at least Canada's population.

Quebec would additionally shit a brick as its language & culture would be swamped.

As well, I expect Russia and China would approve as the US as a "super power" would be greatly diminished.

It is a fantasy that will never happen, Infinitely better for Democrats for stay in the US and fight.

 

purple_haze

(401 posts)
13. I love Canada, but no thanks
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jul 1

I want to fight, not capitulate.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,392 posts)
14. we whomst?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:28 PM
Jul 1

Tribetime

(6,743 posts)
15. Sure leave the rest of us screwed up thanks
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:30 PM
Jul 1

brush

(60,728 posts)
17. I like it. Include Nevada as part of westcoast Canada.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:41 PM
Jul 1

walkingman

(9,614 posts)
18. Please, I'm begging you - don't forget us here in Central Texas.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:47 PM
Jul 1

LostOne4Ever

(9,692 posts)
20. NM and Co have more than earned their right to be included
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:56 PM
Jul 1

With all the other blue states!

Response to PeaceWave (Original post)

InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,401 posts)
26. I would be all for it!!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:31 PM
Jul 1

Dan

(4,845 posts)
28. Reading the various Posts, was fun, but why would Canada want us, that was a good question.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:48 PM
Jul 1

Also, there was stated the belief that we/or rather some of the States couldn't secede from the Nation. I don't believe that is a 100% true.

Donald Trump already treats the Blue states as if we are no longer part of the United States, only the states that supported him are entitled to status in the U.S. of A.
Nations split apart, it happens, the only question is whether or not it would be peaceful or do we need to spill blood along the way.
If enough of the population has had enough of this MAGA bullshit - then it will split. One could make the argument that we have already split in many ways. As one person said, the Republicans don't want us, the current President hates us, and MAGA thinks that we are all liberals deserving of re-education camps and more.
The current GOP/President/MAGA doesn't believe in science, education, tolerance, (add your own here) and are quite content to live in a backward isolated life without exposure or knowledge of the rest of the world. They believe that Donald Trump was sent by GOD and he is their chosen one, followed by criticism of him is forbidden. Their reality is one that is divorced from fact or truth. Plus, they are demanding that we worship their religion and pray to their GOD, and all others religions are "not real".

Come on, we have already split apart as a nation - with Donald doing everything that he can to incite the Blue states to violence so that he can unleash the dogs of war on us. What he is doing now is funding the secret police (ICE) so that he can do the Argentina things to us, like coming in the dead of night and disappearing us. The only question is - how much more can the nation stand.

Maybe, as long as it isn't happening to White people just Brown and Black - it is tolerable. Problem is, that eventually he will run out of Black and Brown and what is now an aberration soon becomes the norm. When it becomes the norm, then he will widen the net - coming for those that disagree with the nation-state (as defined by Trump) or expressed as a sentiment that is contrary to the MAGA norms. Then, neighbor will turn on neighbor, family will turn on family and there is nothing left, except fear.

No, the nation is splitting - it's just waiting for the insides to further spoil and ferment a little more - and like a melon, explode from the pressures.

my thoughts.

C_U_L8R

(47,736 posts)
29. Cede nothing.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:50 PM
Jul 1

Together, the liberal states would still be the world's greatest economy. Let's stick together and teach those magat freeloaders a lesson in power and economics.

ImNotGod

(895 posts)
30. Happy Canada Day by the way! nt
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:58 PM
Jul 1

evilhime

(357 posts)
35. Delaware resident here
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:30 PM
Jul 1

PLEASE make us part of Canada!!!

DownriverDem

(6,870 posts)
36. I'm in Michigan
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jul 1

about 10 miles from the Detroit River US Canadian Border. I vote yes!

Mollyann

(135 posts)
37. We are all being held hostage.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:37 PM
Jul 1

I am tired of being at the mercy of Trump's eunuchs.

AStern

(464 posts)
38. 'Russian trolls' promoted California independence
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:39 PM
Jul 1
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-41853131


February 23, 2025 | Kyiv Post

Why Russia Wants to See California Secede

The Kremlin has a long history dealing with secessionist movements within the Russian and Soviet empires. Now Moscow is using the experience to weaponize secession movements elsewhere.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2025/02/23/why-russia-wants-to-see-california-secede/

Ping Tung

(3,152 posts)
40. OK. Will I have to figure out ice-hockey and end all my sentences with "Eh"?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:49 PM
Jul 1

Eh?

JoseBalow

(8,018 posts)
41. Restore Alta California
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:01 PM
Jul 1

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
42. This is OUR country--- not theirs...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:33 PM
Jul 1

However, glad that Michigan was included as also annexing to Canada on that map,
even though too many of us (I mean, THEM...) fucked up in the last election,
and in 2016.....

Those clearly were flukes, as we have had 2 Democratic US Senators
since about 1994 (?), and voted for the Democratic presidential nominee since 1992,
except for those two most unfortunate Trump elections....

GoodRaisin

(10,376 posts)
46. Make that map go one more down to North Carolina.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jul 1

We have a Democratic governor and I want to join Canada.

thought crime

(548 posts)
47. I don't think I'd want to do that to Canada
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 02:46 AM
Jul 2
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