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So these are tents, in a swamp, during Hurricane season. (Original Post) Swede Jul 1 OP
It is a death camp. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #1
Exactly. spanone Jul 1 #15
Alligator Auschwitz. GaYellowDawg Jul 1 #16
The mosquitoes also carry Nile virus, Zika virus, encephalitis, etc. jmbar2 Jul 1 #2
Cheaper and easier to kill all the prisoners. Irish_Dem Jul 1 #3
Not to mention the poisonous snakes. nolabear Jul 1 #4
To be fair Greg_In_SF Jul 1 #14
Did you have 40 or 60 other people in the same camper with you? Baitball Blogger Jul 1 #20
Probably with no hurricane coming straight in at your position. Justice matters. Jul 1 #24
I was down Greg_In_SF Jul 2 #27
Mosquitoes don't bite everybody, but lucky you. :) Justice matters. Jul 2 #28
The great difference being that you could go home after your drive. The people in the famp can't. Ping Tung Jul 2 #33
No guards or other staff will be there when the hurricane comes through chicoescuela Jul 1 #5
It'll probably be operated with Musk robots and control technologies rather than people who wouldn't want to be there. jmbar2 Jul 1 #6
Excellent observation. Thank you chicoescuela Jul 1 #7
Holy crap. You're probably right. writerJT Jul 1 #18
But they could also be rescued during and under cover of a hurricane. ancianita Jul 1 #26
can't wait for a hurricane to come ashore 500 miles away.... Takket Jul 1 #8
Looked like dirt floors too. Srkdqltr Jul 1 #9
They clutched their pearls over myth of pet eating, yet, are okey-dokey with humans getting devoured. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jul 1 #10
MAGA cruelty on steroids liberal N proud Jul 1 #11
Crimes bdamomma Jul 1 #12
We don't look away JustAnotherGen Jul 1 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author bdamomma Jul 1 #13
It's a plot to a B rated movie. Baitball Blogger Jul 1 #19
Nope. It's no f'n movie. It's reality just down the road from me. The felon's own home state Everglades Auschwitz. ancianita Jul 1 #22
Shameful and tragic. Hard to believe it's us, our country, doing these kinds of things. nt wiggs Jul 1 #21
Be clear. NOT "us" or "our country." It's the felon. None of this would be happening except for him. None of it. ancianita Jul 1 #23
'Except for him'....and except for the GOP, tens of millions of voters, multimillionaires/billionaires, corporations, wiggs Jul 2 #34
"Except for him" there would NOT be a cult GOP, nor the rest on your list. Don't equate consequences with cause. ancianita Jul 2 #35
That is a contagion incubator. LudwigPastorius Jul 1 #25
Death camp Hekate Jul 2 #29
The Okeechobee Hurricane of 1928 taxi Jul 2 #30
I grew up in south Florida before the coming of AC. It was hot, muggy and buggy. flashman13 Jul 2 #31
The camps are crimes against humanity and should be treated as such. And the perpetrators, builders, guards, Ping Tung Jul 2 #32
'People are going to die': Rain floods 'hurricane proof' Alligator Alcatraz LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2 #36
Trump's "Alligator Alcatraz" Is Already Flooding LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2 #37

jmbar2

(7,101 posts)
2. The mosquitoes also carry Nile virus, Zika virus, encephalitis, etc.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:21 PM
Jul 1

We've crossed the line. They intend to kill people.

nolabear

(43,792 posts)
4. Not to mention the poisonous snakes.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:26 PM
Jul 1

And vermin. And heat. And probably fire ants. Honestly, having lived in bayou country as a kid, the gators are the least of their worries.

And looking at those cages I saw not one toilet or sink. Will they have to beg to go to the John or get water in 100° heat?

Something horrible is going to happen.

Greg_In_SF

(411 posts)
14. To be fair
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:27 PM
Jul 1

if that was a concern, people wouldn't be living all over the Everglades. I just drove Alligator Alley and camped in the Everglades last October and it was fine.

Greg_In_SF

(411 posts)
27. I was down
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:04 AM
Jul 2

in The Keys and Everglades for 3.5 weeks and went through plenty of storms. My point is that saying there are disease carrying mosquitos isn't really an argument. I don't recall one mosquito bite my whole trip. Let's focus on the things that really matter about this facility. Mosquitos simply are not one of them.

Justice matters.

(8,678 posts)
28. Mosquitoes don't bite everybody, but lucky you. :)
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:40 AM
Jul 2

My metabolism attracted all of them when I had a farm (not for long as I couldn't stand the suffering any longer after a while).

But if a Cat-3-4-5-(+?) shows up, what if the cages remain full while the staff ran away?

Ping Tung

(3,152 posts)
33. The great difference being that you could go home after your drive. The people in the famp can't.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jul 2

chicoescuela

(2,149 posts)
5. No guards or other staff will be there when the hurricane comes through
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:34 PM
Jul 1

What a sick bastard tsf is

jmbar2

(7,101 posts)
6. It'll probably be operated with Musk robots and control technologies rather than people who wouldn't want to be there.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jul 1

Takket

(23,113 posts)
8. can't wait for a hurricane to come ashore 500 miles away....
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:58 PM
Jul 1

and "oops! it is crazy! the camp blew over and everyone died in the hurricane!"

10. They clutched their pearls over myth of pet eating, yet, are okey-dokey with humans getting devoured.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:04 PM
Jul 1

bdamomma

(68,901 posts)
12. Crimes
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:17 PM
Jul 1

on humanity, between Putin, and Netanyahu, and the felon thug they are seeing how many people they can kill.

This has got to stop. How many innocent women, and children and men are going to be those cages???

Why isn't anyone stopping this???? That fucking Stephen Miller needs to be arrested. If that could ever happen.

JustAnotherGen

(35,923 posts)
17. We don't look away
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:33 PM
Jul 1

We don't pretend it isn't happening. We speak of it every chance we get. It's real.

And when the Regime falls - tribunals for them all including those who supplied the tents, cages, bunks, prepped the faculty and work at it.

No one gets let off the hook. People are going to die at this "camp" and it's by design.

Response to Swede (Original post)

ancianita

(41,174 posts)
22. Nope. It's no f'n movie. It's reality just down the road from me. The felon's own home state Everglades Auschwitz.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:48 PM
Jul 1

wiggs

(8,320 posts)
21. Shameful and tragic. Hard to believe it's us, our country, doing these kinds of things. nt
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:48 PM
Jul 1

ancianita

(41,174 posts)
23. Be clear. NOT "us" or "our country." It's the felon. None of this would be happening except for him. None of it.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:51 PM
Jul 1

Don't drag the whole country or "us" or "we" into complicity with what this fascist is doing to the rest of us.

wiggs

(8,320 posts)
34. 'Except for him'....and except for the GOP, tens of millions of voters, multimillionaires/billionaires, corporations,
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:28 PM
Jul 2

captured MSM, captured courts, submissive law firms and tech companies, christian nationalists who are not really christians, and our otherwise seemingly-normal friends and colleagues. Our systems and institutions slowly transformed over 50 years -- morally, ethically, and legally -- so that when it comes time to defend against an assault the systems and institutions are not generally holding. The assault shouldn't have gotten past the voters, but once that wall was breached the interior has proven soft. This is not random circumstance due to the appearance of one sick f*ck....IMHO this has been fulfillment of decades of planning and investment.

There's room for both our viewpoints...you're welcome to yours. I believe I can lay blame on much of our country and institutional failure...and feel sorry and some shame for what our country is doing to victims here and globally.

ancianita

(41,174 posts)
35. "Except for him" there would NOT be a cult GOP, nor the rest on your list. Don't equate consequences with cause.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jul 2

Sure, there's room for all opinions. Go ahead and hold the rest equally accountable and muddle his being the origin of who they've become as they offer you drama and distraction. But.
Except for him, you would not have to.

taxi

(2,411 posts)
30. The Okeechobee Hurricane of 1928
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:11 AM
Jul 2

This hurricane went through West Palm Beach before killing 2,500 people forty miles inland. The concentration camp is about 55 miles south of Lake Okeechobee and 50 miles inland. Please watch the 90 second video.

In the summer of 1928, heavy rainfall raised Lake Okeechobee’s water level three feet above normal. And in the fall, a hurricane smashed the coast of Florida. The impact flooded Lake Okeechobee. This inland flood obliterated 21 miles of the 47-mile earthen and an estimated 2,500 people died in Southern Florida, most of them migrant farm workers.


https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/swamp-okeechobee-hurricane-1928/


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flashman13

(1,421 posts)
31. I grew up in south Florida before the coming of AC. It was hot, muggy and buggy.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jul 2

If those tents are not air conditioned they will become ovens (Where have we heard that term before?) in the sun. People will die of heat stroke and dehydration. I would describe that as crimes against humanity. I will remind everyone that we tried and executed Nazis for crimes against humanity. It is horrifying that we as a nation have come to this.

Ping Tung

(3,152 posts)
32. The camps are crimes against humanity and should be treated as such. And the perpetrators, builders, guards,
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:10 AM
Jul 2

drivers, etc should be treated as accessories to the crimes.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,920 posts)
36. 'People are going to die': Rain floods 'hurricane proof' Alligator Alcatraz
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jul 2

This is a poorly constructed concentration camp that floods in normal rain. If a hurricane hits this area, the death toll will be really sad.

New video showed a "garden-variety South Florida summer rainstorm" flooding tents and drowning out Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) as he touted the "Alligator Alcatrez" detention facility he claimed was ready to house deportees, according to The Miami Herald.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-07-02T16:45:23Z

https://www.rawstory.com/alligator-alcatraz-2672557600

New video showed a "garden-variety South Florida summer rainstorm" flooding tents and drowning out Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) as he touted the "Alligator Alcatrez" detention facility he claimed was ready to house deportees, according to The Miami Herald.

Rain began shortly after President Donald Trump finished up his tour of the Everglades facility that the White House claimed needed little security due to pythons and alligators surrounding it, the report said.

"The water seeped into the site — the one that earlier in day the state’s top emergency chief had boasted was ready to withstand the winds of a 'high-end' Category 2 hurricane — and streamed all over electrical cables on the floor," wrote reporters Syra Ortiz Blanes, Ana Ceballos, and Alex Harris.

They quoted Kevin Guthrie, executive director of the Florida Division of Emergency Management, as saying, “For those people that don’t think we’re taking that into consideration. This is Florida, by the way. We have a hurricane plan.”

But The Herald reported "that at one point the roof was shaking as the rain pounded down, drowning out Gov. Ron DeSantis’ voice as he spoke to reporters."

Spectrum News reporter Jason Delgado posted video of the flooding, and of DeSantis trying to talk over the cacophony.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,920 posts)
37. Trump's "Alligator Alcatraz" Is Already Flooding
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 06:58 PM
Jul 2

The immigrant detention center is underwater within a day of opening.

The Miami Herald reports: “Rainfall seeped through the edges of the facility as the roofs and walls trembled. Drips leaked from above a door frame. The water spread under poles hoisting the Florida and U.S. flags.”

https://trib.al/esvxjNw

The New Republic (@newrepublic.com) 2025-07-02T20:42:26.914973Z

https://newrepublic.com/post/197552/trump-alligator-alcatraz-flood

The monstrous, recently constructed immigrant detention facility in the Florida Everglades, flippantly dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz,” literally took on water within a day of President Trump visiting the camp Tuesday to commemorate its planned Wednesday opening.

Florida officials have assured the public that the facility, which will cost an estimated $450 million per year to operate, was built to withstand a Category 2 hurricane (though the Naples Daily News notes that winds of recent hurricanes in the area have significantly exceeded Category 2 levels).

A report by the Miami Herald further casts into doubt official claims about the facility’s durability. According to the Herald, “a garden-variety South Florida summer rainstorm” on Tuesday afternoon—of about an inch-and-a-half of rain—caused flooding in the facility.

The Herald reports: “Rainfall seeped through the edges of the facility as the roofs and walls trembled. Drips leaked from above a door frame. The water spread under poles hoisting the Florida and U.S. flags.”


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