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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe immigrant prison in Florida is a concentration camp for workers and families
...it shouldn't be described or termed as anything else.
It's not a jail for dangerous criminals who pose a threat to communities. Despite Trump's promise to remove 'worst of the worst from the country,' ICE has arrested only 6% of known immigrant murderers.
That's because they've spent their time raiding workplaces, schools, hospitals, churches, daycares, stalked immigrants appearing for scheduled hearings and check-ins...
Working men and women and their immigrated families will be housed here, along with whatever American citizen they decide to detain, many wthout any charges or accusations of wrongdoing.
Open cruelty against people from other countries has become a virus which is being encouraged and inflamed by leaders at the very top of our government. It comes with actual beatings and assaults done with impunity by armed, masked thugs who are ostensibly being paid for this abomination of justice and humanity by us, by taxpayers.
Trump's Big Beautiful Bill would pour billions into ICE over the next decade, vastly expanding the size and operation of what is essentially Trump's private army.
Now there's this impetus from the Trump regime and their co-conspirators to not only corral men women and children into cages like cattle, but to threaten them as if the role of our government was to foment derision, animus, and outright terror against people in this country who haven't been convicted of anything whatsoever.
My god, the ease in which the nation has slipped into this is stunningly frightening. How many folks here already fit the profile used by these Stasi thugs Trump has unleashed?
Who's their next target?
I get the ambivalence that folks who have complaind about immigrants in some capacity feel about the deportations. But this process isn't just, and it's violently abusive. It's what Nazism began as, what the KGB developed into when it suited the ruling class to exploit divisions they'd fostered and fomented.
This is no joke, and these Trump republican abominations shouldn't be graced with edgy monikers which intend to demean and intimidate people in this country. The least we can do is call this openly abusive fascism out for what it is.
Detainees would have to "know how to run away from an alligator" to escape the facility, Trump boasted on Tuesday.
...and this from the White House tonight:
Ours is a shameful nation. It's also a dangerous one, with dubious and dwindling recourse for Americans targeted by the government.
Yesterday it was reported that Trumps justice department has issued directive to strip naturalized Americans of citizenship for criminal offenses. The memo says those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in criminal cases.
This isn't about illegal immigration. It never was. It's an escalating campaign of terror and recrimination which is already impacting enough of us - neighbors, co-workers, friends - to feel like our government is actually targeting us.

dalton99a
(89,588 posts)The damage is profound
Woodycall
(541 posts)"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying Jewish swine, collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live inyour nation, your peopleis not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way."
Hekate
(98,677 posts)Im going to try (again) to take a break, bigtree. Take care of yourself.
Justice matters.
(8,678 posts)Natural-born magats could get disappeared there or elsewhere too.
For example, only by unfortunately (fortunately for us) following ICEholes's cars without knowing they are ICEholes's cars...
Like the Pinochet regime used to do in Chile... tens of thousands natural-born citizens disappeared, never to be seen again!
History repeats.
Imagine stupid gullible magats caught by their own fascist wishes... (and votes). When that convicted idiot's cruel sh!t will start, it will happen to them too.
ancianita
(41,174 posts)Mission accomplished. The Final Solution will roll out in the next two years as it was by German fascists -- the 'disappeareds' taken away by fake ICE vigilantes by stealth from "homeland" soil, with plenty of other fascist strife and drama to distract corporate newfeeds. I mean, come on, a whole hour of P Diddy's' trial today on Deadline Whitehouse? Even Lisa Rubin wasn't feelin' it.
Justice matters.
(8,678 posts)at this point is, when the convicted idiot's sh!t will start hitting the fan, many stupid gullible magats will get hoisted on their own petard by "mistake" (there are always mistakes in these lawless regimes).
ancianita
(41,174 posts)lawlessness. McGovern thunders about it. Schumer and Jeffries keep the caucus united, and caucus members are out there debunking what maga spread on Fox and hurting magas are waking up. The next three years will show what the patriotic People are made of. The felon knows he's underwater with the People in all public polls but doubles down/backs off tactically to get headlines. We are fighting, and there is consolation in that, too. Our descendants need to know we're with them.
Hugin
(36,698 posts)Gravel pit conditions are going to degrade very rapidly.
Looking at the cages themselves I am reminded that chain link fences are usually intended to keep passers-by out and not to keep people confined.
You couldnt pay me to be near that place, much less a guard. Ugliness is going to ensue. Not a matter of if, but when.
slightlv
(6,192 posts)This is about killing the Constitution, the laws, and the type of society we, as a founding people, agreed upon in 1776, amended as needed through the years... appropriate to a "living document" (which the Constitution was meant to be, as opposed to the belief in the "set in stone" type of magas).
This is about destroying everything this country *ever* stood for or professed itself to be to the world. This is about creating an entirely new country, formed in the ideals and ideologies of republicans, extremist religionists, and corporate captains of capitalism.
This is about war. They've wanted it for decades; they want to absolutely destroy people like you and me. we're the devils. We believe in allowing people to live and love as they wish, so long as they harm no one else. Is there any way out of this other than war, I ask. You can't believe a single word as truth from their mouths. So, either they leave, or we do. I don't see any other way. I'm not about to capitulate to pure evil.
Figarosmom
(7,222 posts)They could kill and feed to the gators hundreds and no one would know. We don't know who or how many are sent there to begin with. That's how Hitler got away with killing so many.
Only way in is by plane and who is on those planes must be approved to land.
eppur_se_muova
(39,537 posts)Norbert
(7,193 posts)About enjoying vacationing in sunny Flurida.
Anyone proud to be associated with anything with a nickname that includes "Ashwtiz" has serious mental issues.
Johnny2X2X
(23,105 posts)And I don't even call it an immigration prison, this will for sure be used for regular Americans who Trump deems his enemy.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,916 posts)trump and DeathSantis have built a true concentration camp and trump is "joking" about feeding detainees to alligators. This new concentration camp scares me. There are several good comparisons of the Auschwitz camp and living facilities compared to this facility
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I am former member of the board of my 2400 family temple and have got to listen a good number of holocaust survivors over the years. trump/DeathSantis' new facility is a concentration camp where it is likely that normal law abiding detainees may end up (over 60% of the ICE detainees have no criminal record).
This facility is not Auschwitz but could be just the beginning

RoeVWade
(596 posts)I used to live close to there, but it's an all-day drive now.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(858 posts)Because, that's what it is.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,916 posts)Link to tweet
They have their own private Gestapo of unidentified masked marauders and are building Concentration/Death Camps nationwide to imprison the ICE Gestapos human bounty.
Do not be deceived. These camps are not only for black and brown immigrants. They will soon house the Trump Regimes domestic enemies.
This is only the beginning. Want to know their next move? Study the history of the Third Reich.
