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Jacson6

(1,617 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:17 AM Sep 25

The dem senators need to agree to a temporary CR bill.

I don't want to give Trump a victory, but it will just hurt welfare, military families and federal workers who are just trying to get by in life. The 2026 election will hopefully right the ship.

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The dem senators need to agree to a temporary CR bill. (Original Post) Jacson6 Sep 25 OP
Soooooooft Prairie Gates Sep 25 #1
"welfare" Do people still say that? n/t leftstreet Sep 25 #2
Apparently ... sleroy49 Sep 25 #3
How about Temporary Govt. Assisted Living Expenses? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 25 #7
It's called TANF - I worked as a case manager Mossfern Sep 25 #18
Did not know this. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 25 #19
Nope awesomerwb1 Sep 25 #4
So you want Dems to cave to Been A Dick Donald again? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 25 #5
No, and hell no! ananda Sep 25 #8
there is option 3 rampartd Sep 25 #6
Trump will commandeer the funds Mossfern Sep 25 #20
Shut it down and keep it shutdown until the GOP stops destroying healthcare. walkingman Sep 25 #9
If they don't redo the funding for health care now, it will be too late for millions. mackdaddy Sep 25 #10
Definition of insanity newdeal2 Sep 25 #11
The majority of Congressional Democrats gab13by13 Sep 25 #15
The time to fight was back in March gab13by13 Sep 25 #14
That's the same argument Chuck made earlier this year. BannonsLiver Sep 25 #12
NOPE Happy Hoosier Sep 25 #13
DOUBLE NOPE. 617Blue Sep 25 #16
I Disagree Progressive dog Sep 25 #17
We need to stand strong and be proactive in controlling the narrative Patton French Sep 25 #21
No..never! agingdem Sep 25 #22
No thanks. Fuck that . Autumn Sep 25 #23

Mossfern

(4,481 posts)
18. It's called TANF - I worked as a case manager
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:11 AM
Sep 25

Here's what it is:

TANF, or
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, is a state-administered, federally-funded program that provides temporary cash assistance and support services to low-income families with children. The program offers help with basic needs like food, housing, and energy, but it is designed to be time-limited, typically with a lifetime limit of 60 months. Each state sets its own rules for eligibility, the type and amount of benefits, and the services provided, which can include job preparation and childcare assistance, with the goal of promoting work and reducing dependency on welfare.


More than giving people "money", TANF provides education, training, child care, transportation a bit of food stamps in the goal of clients gaining independence. Many of the people in these programs are pretty much the victims of circumstance. I wonder what my former clients think of Trump - I doubt that they're supporters. Hopefully charitable organizations and religious institutions and local governments will take up the slack in services if they're cut.

Voting for a CR does not insure that the Trump administration won't cut them anyway.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,407 posts)
5. So you want Dems to cave to Been A Dick Donald again?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:27 AM
Sep 25

As has been proven time after time after time that caving to Been A Dick Donald just emboldens him to demand even more caving.
Nope, Dems need to hold the line here and make it clear that there will be no more caving to this lunatic and his MAGAt criminals.

rampartd

(2,809 posts)
6. there is option 3
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:27 AM
Sep 25

we give krasnov money for

welfare, military families and federal workers

and no one will stop him from building ball rooms and deporting us all.

we will have to help each other through eventually. take away his credit card.

Mossfern

(4,481 posts)
20. Trump will commandeer the funds
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:14 AM
Sep 25

and use them for frivolous shit to boost his teeny tiny ego.

mackdaddy

(1,893 posts)
10. If they don't redo the funding for health care now, it will be too late for millions.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:31 AM
Sep 25

This is about the only time the democrats have any real power to get anything through at all.
Pain now, or pain forever.

You give Trump an inch and he takes your life.

newdeal2

(4,377 posts)
11. Definition of insanity
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:34 AM
Sep 25

We need to try a different approach.

BUT Dems need to have a clear simple message right now and repeat it on all channels. If they are not on the same page on this and speaking the same language, Trump will win this battle.

gab13by13

(30,327 posts)
15. The majority of Congressional Democrats
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:46 AM
Sep 25

thought they were on the same page back in March, were prepared to fight.

gab13by13

(30,327 posts)
14. The time to fight was back in March
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:44 AM
Sep 25

before the gutting of our social net became law.

I wanted to take a stand back in March and many people criticized my opinion, many people felt a shutdown would be blamed on Democrats.

Remember?

With that said, better late than never, would have been much easier back in March but a handful of Senate Democrats kneecapped the majority.

Remember - back in March Krasnov got everything he wanted and Democrats got nothing in return, now Democrats have to try to undo a law.

Good luck Chuck, I'm on board, have been since March.

BannonsLiver

(19,882 posts)
12. That's the same argument Chuck made earlier this year.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:38 AM
Sep 25

Of course, you can see where it got us. I’ll take a pass on capitulation strategy.

Happy Hoosier

(9,191 posts)
13. NOPE
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:41 AM
Sep 25

We're at the point where we must fight back in any way possible.

If Democrats aren;t willing to fight now, then when?

Progressive dog

(7,547 posts)
17. I Disagree
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sep 25

Lots of people have already been hurt and many more will be if the Trump plan is allowed to continue. This will be a GOP shutdown, they run the government.

Patton French

(1,803 posts)
21. We need to stand strong and be proactive in controlling the narrative
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:14 AM
Sep 25

Resolute and unyielding appears to be a foreign concept to some....

agingdem

(8,673 posts)
22. No..never!
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:16 AM
Sep 25

Last edited Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:43 PM - Edit history (2)

No more playing nice..no more saving Trump’s ass for the good of the country..no more “when they go low we go high”…when they go low we get them on the ground and step down hard on their fucking necks..


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