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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIm going to be looking for a Democrat in the next presidential primaries who will enthusiastically use all the new power
Trump has discovered. Bold sweeping holy shit stuff everyday...but for good this time.
Anything less is unsatisfying and ammounts to unilateral disarmament.
rampartd
(2,802 posts)and will support any candidate that will implode the ball room on his inauguration day
SunSeeker
(57,082 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(155,558 posts)prodigitalson
(3,177 posts)SamuelTheThird
(355 posts)mercuryblues
(15,964 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,324 posts)That's Status quo thinking. We aren't going back.
leftstreet
(37,846 posts)Volaris
(11,210 posts)The SC will be hearing emergency arguments at 2am on a Saturday, because separation of powers of democrats, congress will no longer be allowed to pass things like, yaknow, LAWS, and the article 2 powers will OBVIOUSLY belong to the courts (that they agree with).
What has to be totally destroyed by the next elected Government, in its totality, is the idea that Democratic everything is just totally un-American and therfore, legally illegitimate.
THATS the game the right wing and their echo chambers have been playing for half a century.
BadgerMom
(3,364 posts)All 13 of them? I mean, when I say sweeping changes, I want sweeping changes. 😉
calimary
(88,324 posts)There are 13 judicial districts in the U.S.
I still think we should expand the Supreme Court to 13, one justice per district. Its not just a sweeping change. Its a LONG OVERDUE change.
mwooldri
(10,751 posts)... I'd appoint even more jurists, backup jurists if you will. And each case be decided by a panel of 9 judges. Judges chosen by random. Mandatory retirement ages, mandatory maximum service length. Judges chosen by a bi-partisan panel and the president picks from this shortlist.
Yeah, Supreme Court reform is long overdue IMO too.
calimary
(88,324 posts)Absolutely positively NO MORE jobs-for-life!!!
NO MORE!!!
calimary
(88,324 posts)HOLY CANNOLI YES!!!!!!!
The first thing a Democratic president should do is expand the Supreme Court. There are 13 jurisdictions in the U.S. There should be one justice for each one.
EdmondDantes_
(1,061 posts)We need to reverse the power of an executive because it is far to easy to abuse. And it just leads to an increasing cycle of just trying to go bigger. And doing everything via executive order makes things whipsaw between administrations rather than having stickiness of law.
WestMichRad
(2,739 posts)I agree with you
but lets make it harder to change things AFTER we undo the damage this Maladministration is doing.
Because you KNOW the Repukes will do everything in their power to gum up the works and slow walk every reform the Dems attempt.
AverageOldGuy
(3,116 posts). . . we need a two-step approach:
1. Use all the power we have and then some; put the entire Trump administration in jail for life; execute a couple of them.
2. Then reform the system so it won't happen again.
FakeNoose
(39,213 posts)... then we'll outlaw capital punishment once and for all.
3825-87867
(1,679 posts)Not unless we use a very dull, thin, heavy blade!
A couple of times! Or until no longer needed.
Too harsh for some of you kiddies?
Try you and your family going without food for a month or so for no good reason other than to make the rich richer from your food money.
flashman13
(1,688 posts)The most important thing is to elect a Democratic Congress which will install guardrails around the presidency in order to prevent any further criminal administrations. We need a Congress that sends the President bills to sign that work for We the People.
I want a President that campaigns on bulldozing the TrumpEpstein Ballocks Room and rebuilding the East Wing. If there is an arch that goes too.
Crunchy Frog
(28,143 posts)I won't go for timidity or someone who fails to recognize the gravity of the current situation.
paulkienitz
(1,478 posts)I say we preserve democracy, which means elections are NOT winner-take-all final solutions.
BannonsLiver
(19,876 posts)We cant keep fighting by the rules of past wars. Key part here is for the good.
That means standing up to them and the ghouls on the Red Court when they try to take peoples right to vote away, their right to marry and their right to not starve, or die from sickness unnecessarily, in the wealthiest country in the world. Stand up and forcefully rebuke their shit.
Lucky Luciano
(11,784 posts)but this theoretical president should also say, that all such actions (other than undoing the previous presidents actions), will not be implemented if the following constitutional amendments (blah blah legalese) are passed which ban such dictatorial power grabs.
sarisataka
(22,088 posts)Was the foot note "Unless it's our king"
BeneteauBum
(269 posts)If we adopt the same bludgeoning attitude as the MAGAts, we will have adopted their agenda. Lets strengthen the checks and balances so this horror show will never happen again. Then get back to tending our planet for our kids and subsequent generations.
Peace ☮️
Alpeduez21
(1,971 posts)Too many still buy into when they go low. . .
ancianita
(42,434 posts)Have you actually looked at the abuses of power shown in over 400 federal lawsuits?
Can you name any Democratic candidates who've even hinted at "the good this time" they'd do?
SunSeeker
(57,082 posts)One for each of the 13 federal circuit courts. We had only 9 circuit courts when SCOTUS was increased to 9 in 1869. It used to be only 6 SCOTUS seats when we had 6 circuit courts, up until 1807.
This can all be done by a simple passage of legislation by Congress. Then fill the seats with liberals.
Then they can overturn Citizen's United, Heller, and Dodd, and all the opinions eviscerating the Voting Rights Act. Just like how major precedents were overturned by the Roberts Court, including Roe v. Wade (constitutional right to abortion), Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce and parts of McConnell v. FEC (campaign finance limits), Chevron U.S.A. v. Natural Resources Defense Council (Chevron deference), and Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (affirmative action in higher education).
Time for what goes around to come around!
Blasphemer
(3,511 posts)Also bringing back the Fairness Doctrine (or something similar to account for social media as well).
SunSeeker
(57,082 posts)The last liberal majority on the Supreme Court ended on May 14, 1969, when Justice Abe Fortas resigned, which was followed shortly by the retirement of Chief Justice Earl Warren. The court then became predominantly conservative due to subsequent appointments by Republican presidents. And McConnell made it a conservative supermajority by essentially stealing two seats for Trump to fill (refusing a vote on Garland because it was 9 months before the 2016 election, then ramming through Amy Coney Barrett 2 weeks before the 2020 election, even though Trump was down in the polls).
Escape
(315 posts)... while gradually turning back into the Democracy we, on the left, want..
There CAN NOT be a "forget the past, let's think about the future" attitude when we get back in power. THEY ALL HAVE TO BE PUNISHED TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT OF THE LAW". We have surely finally learned this lesson by now!
ShazamIam
(2,953 posts)pinkstarburst
(1,814 posts)And as much as I like Harris, the country already weighed in on her in the general. It would be a HUGE mistake to nominate her again, and would guarantee us a loss. I will not be supporting her again in the primary.
ShazamIam
(2,953 posts)Blasphemer
(3,511 posts)bucolic_frolic
(53,021 posts)and Republicans will start their carping again and stonewalling and obfuscation.
slightlv
(6,959 posts)I actually have things I'm looking FOR in a democratic nominee. And being willing to use all the power that SCOTUS gave to trump, in essence, to the OFFICE of the Prez, for all the good it can do.
One other thing I'm looking at very seriously, which is going to be harder to find is one not sullied by the new corporate democratic pose.
prodigitalson
(3,177 posts)but by doing stuff like coast guard ships sent to keep oil tankers in port until they've paid every environmental penalty they owe or whatever they are getting away with.
slightlv
(6,959 posts)I'm afraid the country is in for many long, arduous missteps before it finally finds its true footing. I say that because, from the very start of our founding, the ideals were great, but discrimination was built in. It'll be up to these new generations now to undo the mistakes of their ancestors and push the ideal that is America into existence. Unfortunately, I doubt seriously I'll be around to see it... or, even if I am still breathing my brain will probably be mush by then. But it still doesn't stop me from hoping with all my might that discrimination against Mother Earth, the animals we share this earth with, and women and POC can be overcome by a more enlightened generation.
maxsolomon
(37,724 posts)I want to win, and that's what it will take in a nation chock full of nuts.
slightlv
(6,959 posts)I have to wonder if the problems we encountered in the 60's and 70's worked against people moving into politics, instead of pushing people towards it to solve the problems. And, if so, how can we turn that around.
unblock
(55,746 posts)With parts of that mob installed in key places, notably the courts.
The nominal "new powers" such as presidential "immunity" don't mean much without the courts and the media on your side.
Any democratic president who so much as jaywalks will quickly find the president isn't really immune.
The real power lies in his being able to commit crimes in broad daylight and have the media yawn.
IronLionZion
(50,221 posts)to limit the powers of one douchebag to screw so many people
bhikkhu
(10,787 posts)...rather than exploiting them himself (or herself). Though if he used those powers to fix things in a way that shut that door, that would be ok too. I'm afraid I've gotten to be a pessimist on that subject though; I don't expect to see anything fixed, but rather a long slow looting of the country (and my optimistic side only hopes that it is slow).
mwooldri
(10,751 posts)To lay out what went wrong and what we need to do to put things to rights.
Skittles
(168,354 posts)none of this LET'S LOOK FORWARD bullshit