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U.S. flag at ground at White House (Original Post) NameAlreadyTaken Monday OP
Highly symbolic Walleye Monday #1
You just know he wants to fly a Trump flag, gab13by13 Monday #2
Need more flagpoles. Norrrm Monday #32
That the 88-foot Hitler flagpole Trump had installed, right? sop Monday #3
Guess that says it all. Trump oblivious and/or not caring. Biophilic Monday #4
Is that a Secret Service person in the background, gab13by13 Monday #5
Newsweek article usonian Monday #6
OMG Beringia Monday #10
And nobody... GiqueCee Monday #13
Hail to the thief Hey Joe Monday #53
another look bigtree Monday #34
Looking like DEATH warmed over with a fake tan Trump. I mean...look at that fucker. Bengus81 Monday #36
ILL DUCE! Mme. Defarge Monday #38
"ILL DOUCHE"! lastlib Monday #45
Why didn't I think of that! Mme. Defarge Monday #48
Looks as if there are two people by the flag haele Monday #41
Yes, that is how he looks Beringia Monday #50
Are several raised and lowered every day and then sold as Trump-branded merchandise? NT mahatmakanejeeves Monday #7
No, but they're available for a $10,000 donation. WestMichRad Monday #33
MAGA heads would be exploding if it were a Democrat in the presidential office right now..................... Lovie777 Monday #8
No, I don't think so... Conjuay Monday #19
Handkerchief Bavorskoami Monday #30
They had the sarcasm icon right in the post Maraya1969 Monday #46
He's gonna use it for an eye-catching rug in the new ballroom. tanyev Monday #9
Hypocrisy/Incompetence, thy name is Trump ... marble falls Monday #11
A clear violation of his recent EO: 'President Donald J. Trump Protects the American Flag from Desecration' sop Monday #12
What a trip, I guess not a surprise for a psychopath Beringia Monday #17
How symbolic democrank Monday #14
There's an image for the ages. Paladin Monday #15
Mission Accomplished Kid Berwyn Monday #16
Really horrible. But, symbolic of his complete disrespect of his country. Joinfortmill Monday #18
Mirrors our country right now. AllyCat Monday #20
MAGATs love to dress themselves in the flag milestogo Monday #21
If Trump tearing down 1/3 of the White House without permission or permits didn't travelingthrulife Monday #35
As already posted up thread by a great DUer Botany Monday #22
And if it touches the ground, it should be disposed of by... wait for it... Wednesdays Monday #47
If Obama had done that? usregimechange Monday #23
When I was a Girl Scout BumRushDaShow Monday #24
Same here. We had to be very careful with the flag. efhmc Monday #31
He molested it to death and walked away. NBachers Monday #25
His eyes were closed... llmart Monday #26
Hey Newsweak... llmart Monday #27
Been going on for awhile. hay rick Monday #28
THE AMERICAN DREAM IS DEAD czarjak Monday #29
Does anybody besides me see the odd bulges in his pant legs at lower niyad Monday #37
It's a urinary catheter collection bag Maru Kitteh Monday #40
Thank you. I have only known people with colostomy bags , and they niyad Monday #42
Urinary drainage bags can be fixed to the calf or thigh. (picture) Maru Kitteh Monday #49
Thank you for this information. niyad Monday #52
Leg bag (urinary collection) clearly visible on left leg Maru Kitteh Monday #39
The Flag Epsteined itself. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Monday #43
This will be a defining image of the trump administration LetMyPeopleVote Monday #44
One reason the interfere with Marine One and obstruct night time flight operations. Historic NY Monday #51
Desecration Donny Blue Owl Monday #54
Flagpoles at White House risk Helicopter Operations LetMyPeopleVote Monday #55

Biophilic

(6,297 posts)
4. Guess that says it all. Trump oblivious and/or not caring.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:27 AM
Monday

Is that real? I can’t believe no one at the White House didn’t catch that. But maybe that speaks volumes about our current White House.

Beringia

(5,297 posts)
10. OMG
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:51 AM
Monday

According to the U.S. flag code, the flag should never touch anything beneath it. That guidance, according to the Cornell Law School, reads: “The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.”



On another note, I thought he would walk slumped over, but he walks tall

GiqueCee

(3,083 posts)
13. And nobody...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:07 AM
Monday

... appears to be making any attempt to rescue the flag. That is telling, and it's telling us something really, really bad. Trump's contemptuous disregard for this unforgivable travesty should be a red flag the size of his asinine ballroom. He. Is. EVIL.

haele

(14,896 posts)
41. Looks as if there are two people by the flag
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:20 AM
Monday

Discussing what to do after the flag was already flopped on the ground.
Or maybe just one guy watching while the other gathers or balls it up like he's collecting dirty towels off a locker room floor.
A flag that large needs at least four to six people just to manage the flag as it comes down to keep it from touching the ground, not counting the person lowering it.

Lovie777

(21,245 posts)
8. MAGA heads would be exploding if it were a Democrat in the presidential office right now.....................
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:39 AM
Monday

the hypocrites are still in the building.

Conjuay

(2,804 posts)
19. No, I don't think so...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:39 AM
Monday

If you are willing to wear the flag as an item of clothing- a shirt, the lining of a suit jacket, or a bikini-

you have no concept of flag etiquette.

Bavorskoami

(164 posts)
30. Handkerchief
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:47 AM
Monday

Pete Hegseth has often used an American flag handkerchief as a pocket square as well as the flag liner for his suit jackets.

marble falls

(69,608 posts)
11. Hypocrisy/Incompetence, thy name is Trump ...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:01 AM
Monday
https://www.newsweek.com/american-flag-floor-white-house-donald-trump-11057234

Andrew Leyden, a journalist and former lawyer, wrote on X: “The @POTUS returned to the White House but the rotor wash from Marine One blew down the American flag on the new flagpole. UPDATE: Upon review of additional footage, it appears the flag was down before Marine One arrived. Not sure why.”

The White House has not publicly responded or explained what led to the flag being on the ground as of reporting.

sop

(16,987 posts)
12. A clear violation of his recent EO: 'President Donald J. Trump Protects the American Flag from Desecration'
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:04 AM
Monday

"COMBATING FLAG DESECRATION: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to restore respect, pride, and sanctity to the American flag and prosecute those who desecrate this symbol of our freedom, identity, and strength to the fullest extent permissible."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-protects-the-american-flag-from-desecration/

Lock him up!

Beringia

(5,297 posts)
17. What a trip, I guess not a surprise for a psychopath
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:23 AM
Monday

Trump's 2025 executive order
On August 25, 2025, President Trump signed an executive order to increase prosecutions for flag burning.

Vigorous prosecution: The order directs the Attorney General to "vigorously prosecute" those who violate existing laws in ways that involve desecrating the flag and to "clarify the scope of the First Amendment exceptions".
Immigration penalties: It also instructs relevant agencies to deny or revoke visas, residence permits, or other immigration benefits for non-citizens who desecrate the flag in a manner that allows for such remedies under federal law.
Intended limitations: Legal experts have noted that prosecutions could be brought only for actions connected to flag burning that are not protected by the First Amendment, such as arson, theft, or inciting "imminent lawless action".
Expected legal challenge: Free speech advocates and legal experts state that the order runs contrary to established First Amendment law and will likely face court challenges

Paladin

(32,076 posts)
15. There's an image for the ages.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:18 AM
Monday

Hope people are still seeing it 100 years from now, and are still marveling at all the bullshit we put up with.

milestogo

(22,247 posts)
21. MAGATs love to dress themselves in the flag
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:43 AM
Monday

because they seem to think it makes them patriotic.

I think this photo will enrage a lot of people.

travelingthrulife

(3,905 posts)
35. If Trump tearing down 1/3 of the White House without permission or permits didn't
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:57 AM
Monday

affect them, neither will this.

Botany

(75,967 posts)
22. As already posted up thread by a great DUer
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:45 AM
Monday

Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:39 PM - Edit history (1)

According to the U.S. flag code, the flag should never touch anything beneath it. That guidance, according to the Cornell Law School, reads: “The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.”


@ sunset the flag should be taken down and folded properly and it should not touch the ground.

Wednesdays

(21,422 posts)
47. And if it touches the ground, it should be disposed of by... wait for it...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:02 PM
Monday

by burning it.

BumRushDaShow

(163,781 posts)
24. When I was a Girl Scout
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:20 AM
Monday

they really emphasized the flag code and at overnight camp (mine was 2 weeks), the girls rotated in groups for who did the color guard/flag duty, the mess hall, campsite/latrine cleaning, etc.

There was a whole ritual every evening, when the flag at our camp was lowered (with "Taps" sung, but just the first verse) and the assigned group did the "triangle folding" of it to put it away for the evening.

IIRC, if the flag hits the ground, it is supposed to be disposed of (burned). The flag can fly 24/7 on a pole as long as it is lit at night. If there is no light on it at night, it is supposed to be lowered.

niyad

(128,786 posts)
37. Does anybody besides me see the odd bulges in his pant legs at lower
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:06 AM
Monday

calf level? I have never seen pants look like that.

Maru Kitteh

(31,067 posts)
40. It's a urinary catheter collection bag
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:17 AM
Monday

Called a leg bag. The shape is very clearly outlined under the pant leg.

niyad

(128,786 posts)
42. Thank you. I have only known people with colostomy bags , and they
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:21 AM
Monday

were not positioned on their calves.

Maru Kitteh

(31,067 posts)
49. Urinary drainage bags can be fixed to the calf or thigh. (picture)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:19 PM
Monday



Or really anywhere you want to run a drainage tube to below the bladder level.

Maru Kitteh

(31,067 posts)
39. Leg bag (urinary collection) clearly visible on left leg
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:13 AM
Monday

Can’t wait for the day he blows that thing up or some aide neglects to get it closed all the way.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,120 posts)
55. Flagpoles at White House risk Helicopter Operations
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:23 PM
Monday

trump added these flags. It may be that the flags have to taken down if trump arrives by helicopter


See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220412949

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