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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(134,609 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:37 PM Nov 2025

Elon Musk says that in 10 to 20 years, work will be optional and money will be irrelevant thanks to AI and robotics

In the future, Elon Musk sees humans as metaphorical vegetable farmers.

The Tesla CEO said at the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday that in the next 10 to 20 years, work will be optional, likening the decision to have a job to the more laborious upkeep of a vegetable garden.

“My prediction is that work will be optional. It’ll be like playing sports or a video game or something like that,” Musk said. “If you want to work, [it’s] the same way you can go to the store and just buy some vegetables, or you can grow vegetables in your backyard. It’s much harder to grow vegetables in your backyard, and some people still do it because they like growing vegetables.”

The future of optional work will be the result of millions of robots in the workforce able to usher in a wave of enhanced productivity, according to Musk. The tech mogul, worth about $470 billion, has made the recent push to expand Tesla beyond just electric vehicles, working on consolidating his sprawling business interests into his broader vision of an AI-fueled, robotic-powered future. That includes his goal of having 80% of Tesla’s value come from his Optimus robots, despite continuous production delays for the humanoid bots.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-says-10-20-183701720.html

There'll still be work. Greedy fucks like Musk won't share the wealth.

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Elon Musk says that in 10 to 20 years, work will be optional and money will be irrelevant thanks to AI and robotics (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2025 OP
So... billions of humans FalloutShelter Nov 2025 #1
you may not have noticed, they do not need billions of humans anymore rampartd Nov 2025 #6
True that. FalloutShelter Nov 2025 #7
I have seen learned postulation that AI misanthrope Nov 2025 #11
They are using a multi-pronged approach. Vought, our Pres, says we need to get the population down to travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #61
Zoos...the correct spelling is "zoos". ret5hd Nov 2025 #10
Billions of humans with no job, no money, no food on the table. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #55
I think the plan is to starve to death 90% of the world population within one month. Jacson6 Nov 2025 #73
This makes no sense at all to me. Iris Nov 2025 #2
Yeah, me too! Elon, put your money where your mouth is. Give me a billion of your irrelevancy! TheBlackAdder Nov 2025 #43
Hopefully in 10 to 20 years one of his rockets with him on it has a catastrophic failure. Botany Nov 2025 #3
10-20 days is better misanthrope Nov 2025 #12
Except somebody has to buy his cars, subscribe to satellite, etc. I think they'll find a way Silent Type Nov 2025 #4
scrip, not script Metaphorical Nov 2025 #40
Glad you got my point. Silent Type Nov 2025 #42
Since when are Republicans going to issue script to not work? travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #62
Gotta have someone buy cars, subscribe to social media, eat pork-n-beans, etc. Otherwise, their businesses fail Silent Type Nov 2025 #64
Work optional? Norrrm Nov 2025 #5
Elon needs to lay off the drugs. nt GoCubsGo Nov 2025 #8
In 10-20 years MuskX's robots will take the drugs for him. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2025 #23
Musk is admitting he doesn't have to work any more. His minions do it for him. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2025 #70
Conspiracy theory: Rise of the terminators. n/t Jacson6 Nov 2025 #9
We'll all have time to wave chainsaws at each other, and destroy institutions struggle4progress Nov 2025 #13
If we all took the drugs he's taking, sure usonian Nov 2025 #14
Sure Elon edhopper Nov 2025 #15
Well, progress has been fantastic over the last 10 years Polybius Nov 2025 #19
He promised it would be done edhopper Nov 2025 #33
True Polybius Nov 2025 #51
Yeah, a little edhopper Nov 2025 #66
Dammit, I was born too soon! Polybius Nov 2025 #16
And how will we be able to afford housing and food, exactly? Initech Nov 2025 #17
He wants everyone not white dead. Justice matters. Nov 2025 #47
The top 1% will likely try to use AI for their own "irrelevant" purposes of effortless survival... AntiFascist Nov 2025 #18
So if money will be irrelevant then... llmart Nov 2025 #20
He needs to lay off the g.d. drugs and scifi novels. valleyrogue Nov 2025 #21
I'm going to take a wild stab here... jmowreader Nov 2025 #22
Wafers Sold by the Musk Soylent Corporation Metaphorical Nov 2025 #41
So money will be irrelevant? RazorbackExpat Nov 2025 #24
His actions don't support his words EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #26
Razorback..that was my first thought reading this.. Deuxcents Nov 2025 #35
Says the psychotic clown waving a giant chainsaw on a stage Justice matters. Nov 2025 #48
Musk is on powerful drugs, obviously Blues Heron Nov 2025 #25
FEM John Coktosten Nov 2025 #27
My guess is he wants to plug us all in to use us as batteries for his AIs. Intractable Nov 2025 #28
Hes just talking about himself. SSJVegeta Nov 2025 #29
If money will be irrelevant CanonRay Nov 2025 #30
He also said he'd cut two trillion from the federal budget. So there's that. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #31
There will be jobs... DBoon Nov 2025 #32
What he leaves unspoken is that people will be optional and irrelevant. Crunchy Frog Nov 2025 #34
In 10 to 20 years, most people will realize dgauss Nov 2025 #36
Except they have no intention of TheFarseer Nov 2025 #37
I thought that he would have us all on Mars by then. Marie Marie Nov 2025 #38
so I hope that Elon Musk will be 'optional' even sooner than that! Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #39
"Oh, hey, everybody! If you just invest in my new wiz bang inventions, soon nobody will ever have to work AZJonnie Nov 2025 #44
Assholes like him have been predicting this bullshit at least since the 1950s. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2025 #45
It's just a coincidence that these fantastical BootinUp Nov 2025 #46
Why does anyone listen to this drug addled shitposting liar? flvegan Nov 2025 #49
Reading between the lines genxlib Nov 2025 #50
Yes, and all races and religions will live in harmony, and the world will be preserved by environmentalists Walleye Nov 2025 #52
There's not enough money or electricity to build out AI bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #53
This is why they are killing us off. They don't need a workforce any longer. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #54
Musk is so rich that money has become irrelevant to him. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #56
And quiet piggys will fly. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2025 #58
He really needs to get off the drugs. marble falls Nov 2025 #59
So these robots will also buy your products, Elon, you moronic manbaby? travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #60
If money becomes irrelevant, so will you, Eloon! OldBaldy1701E Nov 2025 #63
LOL, the rich will never let the masses benefit from automation, period Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #65
Yep. Ping Tung Nov 2025 #67
Says the guy usedtobedemgurl Nov 2025 #68
We, as Democrats and humans, need to ensure the "AI Dividend" gulliver Nov 2025 #69
Then why does he need a $1T pay package? NT Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #71
The biggest grifter in history. IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2025 #72
Maybe he got enlightened Blue Full Moon Nov 2025 #74

rampartd

(4,462 posts)
6. you may not have noticed, they do not need billions of humans anymore
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:47 PM
Nov 2025

some of us will remain on reservations, i suppose.

travelingthrulife

(5,010 posts)
61. They are using a multi-pronged approach. Vought, our Pres, says we need to get the population down to
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:56 AM
Nov 2025

100 million, all white, all his brand of christian, you know the hate-filled type.

My MAGA brothers tell me the concentration camps are also for religious indoctrination to their hate religion. You don't accept their version, off to the camps.

Irish_Dem

(80,670 posts)
55. Billions of humans with no job, no money, no food on the table.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:53 AM
Nov 2025

This is why the rich have to start killing off the population.

Jacson6

(1,891 posts)
73. I think the plan is to starve to death 90% of the world population within one month.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:18 PM
Nov 2025

After they have created their robots.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
43. Yeah, me too! Elon, put your money where your mouth is. Give me a billion of your irrelevancy!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:09 AM
Nov 2025

Botany

(76,988 posts)
3. Hopefully in 10 to 20 years one of his rockets with him on it has a catastrophic failure.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:43 PM
Nov 2025

Trump is just his tool to bring on Musk’s “brave new world.”

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
4. Except somebody has to buy his cars, subscribe to satellite, etc. I think they'll find a way
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:44 PM
Nov 2025

to care for people who decide not to work and live off staples, in small homes, etc. Maybe government will hand out script.

Those that want more will opt to work. They’ll be plenty of jobs left for those that want them, notwithstanding the doomsayers who have been around since my earliest memories in 1950s.

Not saying it will be pleasant.

Metaphorical

(2,619 posts)
40. scrip, not script
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 11:45 PM
Nov 2025

Scrip is money issued by corporations in lieu of government back bonds. Scrip tends to go in and out of fashion as companies wax and wane, especially as scrip usually only tends to be accepted by the company in question. As far as I'm concerned, most e-currency is technically speaking scrip, and most is not worth the electrons their printed on, though the TechBros would have you believe otherwise.

travelingthrulife

(5,010 posts)
62. Since when are Republicans going to issue script to not work?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:58 AM
Nov 2025

This is just more tech nonsense. Of course money is irrelevant when you have all of it, Elon.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
64. Gotta have someone buy cars, subscribe to social media, eat pork-n-beans, etc. Otherwise, their businesses fail
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:08 AM
Nov 2025

and their wealth all but evaporates.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,097 posts)
23. In 10-20 years MuskX's robots will take the drugs for him.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:25 PM
Nov 2025

Leaving ElonX with nothing to do but spread his "superior" genes all day long. Not much different than it is for him now, actually.

Irish_Dem

(80,670 posts)
57. Musk is admitting he doesn't have to work any more. His minions do it for him.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:57 AM
Nov 2025

And he has enough money to never worry again about anything.

Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #8)

struggle4progress

(125,919 posts)
13. We'll all have time to wave chainsaws at each other, and destroy institutions
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:00 PM
Nov 2025

that took generations to build, and honor dictators who murder journalists, and demand trillion dollar payoffs, and babble nonsense about colonizing outer space!

Polybius

(21,753 posts)
19. Well, progress has been fantastic over the last 10 years
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:11 PM
Nov 2025

I couldn't have imagined Full Self Driving version 14 in 2015.

Justice matters.

(9,650 posts)
47. He wants everyone not white dead.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:41 AM
Nov 2025

And everyone not rich dead, no mater if they're white.

He wants his robots and AI to work 24/7, 365 days a year, to serve him and the 1% everything.

The 1% white.

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
18. The top 1% will likely try to use AI for their own "irrelevant" purposes of effortless survival...
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:11 PM
Nov 2025

many of the rest of us will be working for the long-term survival of humanity.

llmart

(17,518 posts)
20. So if money will be irrelevant then...
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:16 PM
Nov 2025

why doesn't he start getting rid of some of his right now. I'd like to be first in line.

I think my prediction is better. In 10 years Eloon will be irrelevant.

valleyrogue

(2,658 posts)
21. He needs to lay off the g.d. drugs and scifi novels.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:23 PM
Nov 2025

I have heard this futuristic shit for decades, and what "progress" there has been has been limited.

AI is a load of shit.

jmowreader

(53,060 posts)
22. I'm going to take a wild stab here...
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:24 PM
Nov 2025

All the people who are displaced by Musk Tech will eat nutritionally complete wafers that come in red, yellow and green, get their water from a central spigot that's only turned on once a week, and live 20-to-a-room without possessions.

Justice matters.

(9,650 posts)
48. Says the psychotic clown waving a giant chainsaw on a stage
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:47 AM
Nov 2025

and making Heil Hitler salutes twice for all the horrified world to see.

Let's hope in ten years, he will be serving time for stealing private data without any consent.

Intractable

(1,909 posts)
28. My guess is he wants to plug us all in to use us as batteries for his AIs.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 09:49 PM
Nov 2025

This man is not going to make life better for the proletariat.

DBoon

(24,874 posts)
32. There will be jobs...
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:25 PM
Nov 2025

They just won't involve making things.

They won't involve providing services to ordinary people.

The jobs will involve providing menial, degrading services to the .1%.

Because the .1 % will always want to degrade and humiliate their lessers

Wiping the Ass of the English King — The Highly Coveted Job Among the Young Noblemen https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/groom-of-the-stool-bb96e0dfacba

Crunchy Frog

(28,220 posts)
34. What he leaves unspoken is that people will be optional and irrelevant.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:38 PM
Nov 2025

In Elon's nightmare utopia.

TheFarseer

(9,768 posts)
37. Except they have no intention of
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 11:10 PM
Nov 2025

sharing anything with anyone. He means work will be optional for fellow billionaires as if it isn’t already. The rest of us can die or scrounge some sort of living in cardboard shack villages outside their gated community. Makes no difference to them. I’m not sure we will even have the option of a 2nd French Revolution. Think of all the assault robots we’d have to get past. The only part I can’t figure out is how they make money once they have all the money and the people that used to buy their stuff literally have no money.

AZJonnie

(3,457 posts)
44. "Oh, hey, everybody! If you just invest in my new wiz bang inventions, soon nobody will ever have to work
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:11 AM
Nov 2025

a day in their lives if they don't want to!"

Signed,
Every Egomaniacal Industrialist in the Past Two Centuries

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
45. Assholes like him have been predicting this bullshit at least since the 1950s.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:56 AM
Nov 2025

Anyone here old enough to remember the 1950s ought to remember the terrified predictions that robots would take over all work. Which certainly would not have been possible back then, and still isn't possible.

And of course this nonsense is the final reason I stopped getting an occasional McDonald's, because it was taking 20 minutes to get a fish sandwich and fries. Plus, the last time I did, about a year ago, it was truly awful.

BootinUp

(51,104 posts)
46. It's just a coincidence that these fantastical
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:02 AM
Nov 2025

stories make people want to invest in his companies.

flvegan

(66,137 posts)
49. Why does anyone listen to this drug addled shitposting liar?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:00 AM
Nov 2025

Where's that roadster...and the robotaxis...and the full self driving? Promises made, promises forgotten.

Fuck that nazi, Elon. And fuck Tesla. Shit company, shit cars, shit leadership.

genxlib

(6,114 posts)
50. Reading between the lines
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:41 AM
Nov 2025

He is just trying to get past the fatal flaw of Atlas Shrugged.

That is the the delusional concept that the 1% can just create their own utopian society without the people who actually get shit done. That vision always falls apart with the simple question of “Who is going to cook your food and clean your house”

Robots!

Walleye

(44,373 posts)
52. Yes, and all races and religions will live in harmony, and the world will be preserved by environmentalists
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:39 AM
Nov 2025

bucolic_frolic

(54,791 posts)
53. There's not enough money or electricity to build out AI
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:51 AM
Nov 2025

Most of them will be bankrupt or consolidated.

Irish_Dem

(80,670 posts)
54. This is why they are killing us off. They don't need a workforce any longer.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:52 AM
Nov 2025

They don't need us to make them rich.

They sure as hell are not going to share their wealth so people can eat and have a roof over their head.

Culling the herd is their goal now.

Irish_Dem

(80,670 posts)
56. Musk is so rich that money has become irrelevant to him.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:56 AM
Nov 2025

He has everything he needs and wants.
He can buy anything in the world.

He has no understanding of what it means to go hungry or be homeless.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,894 posts)
63. If money becomes irrelevant, so will you, Eloon!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:00 AM
Nov 2025

Do you really think anyone would be around you at all if not for your wealth?

Delusional to the last, I see.

Johnny2X2X

(23,964 posts)
65. LOL, the rich will never let the masses benefit from automation, period
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:09 AM
Nov 2025

You think Musk and his billionaire bros are going to let regular people get anything out of their adventures?

They'd sooner just let 80% of society die off before doing anything that provides for the basic needs of people. That's actually probably their plan. USA has 75M people instead of 350M.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,987 posts)
68. Says the guy
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:55 AM
Nov 2025

Who demanded an explanation of what work government employees did, to justify keeping their jobs! Also, from the guy who has close ties to a party of people who think if you are not working, you are greedy and lazy and do not deserve food or healthcare. (And they do not want it for workers, either. Yes, in a decade or so, they will be happy giving us what we NEED, and we can just stay home? Bullshit!

gulliver

(13,895 posts)
69. We, as Democrats and humans, need to ensure the "AI Dividend"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:38 AM
Nov 2025

I think we Democrats need to get a vision for AI, pronto. Musk's vision is excellent. We need to start using law to create a glide path toward it so that all people get their share of the "AI Dividend." For example, as AI improves productivity, we should make sure that improvement produces some mix of new jobs and "dividend payments." I, for one, picture a dividend auto-deposit or check, like during COVID.

I have little concern that we humans will find something to do. We already have people who don't work: the rich, retirees, and managers. They find things to do.

(Just a burn, managers...I love me some managers.)

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