Yep. That's about it.

[tblue37]

— Dcmfox (@dcmfox.bsky.social) 2025-11-24T22:35:05.150Z

[Biophilic]

1. And they want the rest of the country, ok the blue states that send money to Washington, to pay for it.

[OldBaldy1701E]

5. Yep.

That is my position on this.

The blue states need to refrain from supporting this regime in any and every way possible. Which includes withholding any payments to the feds when people in their own states are starving/and or being terrorized.

(They won't, but they should.)

[JustAnotherGen]

11. Governor Elect Sherrill

Knows we want soft secession - and there are ways to do it.

It's why she won. Yeah - I know it's Politico - but it's the gist of it.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/21/sherrill-considers-new-jersey-stop-paying-federal-taxes-00665244

It is unclear how such a proposal would work, and Sherrill’s transition team declined to elaborate. The Garden State regularly pays more to the federal government in taxes than it gets back, according to an analysis from the Rockefeller Institute.

Sherrill, speaking with Stewart, said that she thinks about withholding federal tax dollars “all the time” and that it’s a “great idea.”

“If they’re not gonna run the programs, then what are we paying them for?” she said. “It’s like, you know, you’re paying us for a service and they’re not delivering. So let’s stop paying for it.”

They go on to give credit to Newsom for this idea - but it's not his. It's the Democratic Committee Members in NJ who gave her the ideas. I'm one of them. We are a tiny state with the ability to unleash hell on America.

Example - Oh Nebraska - you think you can make it without us? Hmmm - what if we start charging Freight Trucks 5$ to leave the ports (vial local roads) if the FT's aren't delivering in NJ? Ditto getting the items to another airport or rail. Sooner or later you have to tear up our local roads. I'm just looking for a little restitution is all.

Since we get so little back from Fed Gov - we have to get the money that gets handed out hand over fist to red states in advance . . .. while we CAN inflict pain.

The average Dem Committee member in NJ has been turned into a bunch of Sadists. America better get used to it . . . our cruelty is the point.

[NJCher]

23. Can't wait to use this line

Cuz we’re rich here. We’re really rich.

[Attilatheblond]

24. My dad always maintained that Lincoln should have just waved good-bye to the South instead of forcing them to stay in

He was wrong about a lot of personal things, but he was right about the geo-political divide.

[OldBaldy1701E]

31. I am from the south, and although that is one way to have solved it...

I still think that the reason was that Lincoln was too busy playing politics to do what he should have done.

A good solid smackdown would have done wonders to a people who respected nothing but the authority of the fist and the whip. It should have put Nuremberg to shame.

But they chose to try and reconcile with them, thus leaving the 'braintrust' to create things like the KKK and The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. They needed to be held accountable for not only starting a war with the US, but for a few centuries of atrocities committed to slaves in their 'possession'. And yes, a few ancestors would have been in that dock.

Too bad for them.

[slightlv]

37. Not to mention the mess of Reconstruction...

that just wimped away midstream... so much that *should* have been done, at least looking back in hindsight. Still, I think holding a few of those high ranking traitorous southerners would have been good, instead of just shaking hands and saying "oops"...

[JustAnotherGen]

32. My dad grew up with his

Confederate Officer immigrant Great Great Grandfather. He lived to be 107 years old.

He was part of the Free State Movement in Mississippi towards the end of the war. Never owned slaves. The CSA Army was three meals and a bed at the beginning. We went onto marry an Indigenous woman - and their daughter married a Black Man - so here i am!

He had nothing but shame for having been in that war. He'd say things to his grands and great grands like -

Are yer stupid? Then why are yer actin' like a Johnny Reb. You have to imagine it coming out of the mouth of an American whose father was from Ireland and mother from Scotland before they brought their family to Mississippi. God bless him!

[Attilatheblond]

36. You are an ALL AMERICAN for sure

[travelingthrulife]

15. If there is a way to do it, Newsom might be on it.

Since we pay directly as individuals, it would have to be some tool on the state side.

[calimary]

44. Agreed wholeheartedly!!!

[Emile]

2. and they still believe Republicans are better for

the economy.

[KS Toronado]

4. About time some of our messaging points this out.

[Keepthesoulalive]

10. Message

What message? He screwed them last time he was in office and they said please sir can I have another go round. The only message they hear is the one in their heads or the one on Fox News.

[betsuni]

29. And when Democrats are positive about the economy they're scolded as out of touch about inequality

and all the things that need to be done, the usual character attack and accusations.

[slightlv]

38. It's the talking points that get shouted (and whispered) full time

around-the-clock... especially on places like Fox and OAN. It's been that way for decades, now. That type of programming is deeply ingrained... they did their work well on the dumbsh*ts. Start off with no critical thinking skills, and pound a few statements into their brain over and over and over again. Works better than any digital scripting language. And, just for grins, make sure their preachers echo the same type of programming from the pulpit. Wallah! You've got a completely stupid, non-thinking, class of degenerates.

[GiqueCee]

12. Those are the same people...

... that say the jury's still out on the correlation between intercourse and conception. Dumber than a bag of hammers.

[3catwoman3]

25. At least hammers are useful.

[Orrex]

3. And they'd vote for him again tomorrow, given the chance

[JT45242]

6. Womp womp ...to 59 percent and change. FAFO und then just f off

4-1 electoral college vote.

All the places that grow soy beans, mango Mussolini won. Enjoy what you voted for....

Cause at least there isn't an uppity black woman in an intact white house and brown people have suffered.

[surfered]

7. How Tariffs Work

[Fla Dem]

8. Nebraska a TRUE RED STATE!!!!

In 2025, Nebraska's Governor and U.S. Senators are Republicans, while its three U.S. Representatives are also Republicans.

Governor: Jim Pillen (Republican)

U.S. Senators:
Deb Fischer (Republican)
Pete Ricketts (Republican)

U.S. Representatives:
Mike Flood (Republican)
Don Bacon (Republican)
Adrian Smith (Republican)

What a bunch of dupes. Well you get what you pay for.

[Gaytano70]

13. Speaking from the BLUE DOT

Pillen has already been the worst governor our state has ever suffered. That's saying a lot since P.rickets was the last governor. Pillen is so far up *rump's ass that he let them build a concentration camp in our state.
You are correct that our state is blood red, but we do have many of us in the blue dot who are pissed, ashamed of what Pillen has done to us, and are going to fight like hell to elect Lynne Walz as our next governor!
🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵

[Fla Dem]

28. I'm in Fla, so understand the suffering of living in a Red State, especially when I grew up and lived

for 30 years in Blue Massachusetts. When referring to Duped, I hope you understand, I was referring to the those who vote red; certainly not the folks who fight and push back to those RW'ers and Trump worshipers.

Thank you for your resistance, and have a great Thanksgiving.

[slightlv]

39. Your Pillen sounds like what we suffered with Brownback.

If correct, you have my deepest sympathies.

[travelingthrulife]

16. They have already had some hospital closures in Nebraska I believe.

[slightlv]

40. We've lost both our hospitals already, here in this little burg I live in, in KS.

And trying to find a local primary care physician is a major search ordeal. My sister is still looking to find one, since hers quit and went to the "big city"... Kansas city. Both my PCP and my husband's are in KC, and we were just told we couldn't go to the big hospital we've always gone to when necessary (and both of us know how to get to); instead, we have to go to the one that's over our PCPs in Kansas City. At least I know where it is and how to get there. Hubby couldn't find it if he had all the time in the world! The only other hospital okayed by our MA plan is in KCMO, and even *I* couldn't drive there or find it on a map. We don't have GPS in the car, and can't hear it over the roar of our old car if we try it on our phone. What makes it really bad is hubby has need to get to the hospital quickly at times, due to his prior heart attacks. And now, we're 40 minutes away from the in-network hospital. We CAN go to the clinic here in LV, get immediate treatment, and then they ambulance him over to the hospital in KcK we can get to... but it's out of network, and we discovered this month just what that meant for us in $$$. I hate immediately having $$$ signs pop into my head when we're talking about hubby's hospital visits, but damn... that's the country we're living in.

[progressoid]

9. And Pillen just got Trump's endorsement

[ForgedCrank]

14. Do people

really think that soybeans are harvested by migrant laborers?

[travelingthrulife]

17. No but they work the farms and do other harvesting.

Do you think Nebraska just produces soybeans?

[ForgedCrank]

19. The post

of a person speaking 3rd person about something unverified was about soybeans and harvesting them

[yardwork]

22. Reread the OP and both posts embedded in it.

[ForgedCrank]

26. I See,

so you insist that the post wasn't about China cancelling soybean orders due to a lack of immigrant workers and there was no mention that this was because of a lack of people to harvest them.
Gotcha.
I swear, some folks will twist anything just so they can argue.

[stopdiggin]

30. both imbedded posts mention both workers and crops

I had no trouble distinguishing, or separating, those two concepts ...
And I am quite well aware that soybeans are not harvest by migrant workers - nor did I infer that the posters thought so buy their wording - and further, did not imagine that the average reader would be misled into thinking so either. (why would I - when I clearly was not?)

Argue away, my friend .. !

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[Emile]

18. I've seen them driving combines and tractors.

[Shipwack]

35. Migrants drive the equipment that does the harvesting and processing. nt

[Wounded Bear]

20. Doctor! Doctor! It hurts when I do this...

Well, maybe you should stop doing that.

[Keepthesoulalive]

21. Henny Youngman

Would be proud.

[Fil1957]

27. You forgot to mention Nebraska helped put in power the guy who caused the whole mess in the first place.

[Cirsium]

33. These threads are ridiculous

The "farm vote" - even in Nebraska - is not large enough to swing elections. We just look ignorant with these "FAFO" threads. Don't buy into the red state-blue state nonsense. States don't vote, people do. Acres don't vote, either. 370,000 people voted for Harris in Nebraska. Farm owners vote about the way that owners in all business sectors vote, they skew Republican. Here among growers it is typically about 55-45 Republican. But the heavy support for Trump here in this rural agricultural district is not from farmers.

When agriculture is hurt, it is the eaters who suffer. All of the public programs - Land Grant colleges, Cooperative extension, Farm Credit, the USDA and state Ag departments, etc. - were designed for the benefit of the public. Yes, the system is gamed by the big operators and by the wealthy, but that is true throughout the economy, not just in agriculture.

[slightlv]

41. I can't argue much with what you say... you make logical sense.

But I live in a farm area... we're surrounded by burgs... cities that are maybe (at their largest) some 15-20k people. And the few of those are surrounded by smaller burgs of under 2-300 people... all farm related businesses and people. And too many of the old time farmers and family farms are, once again, being bought by big AG... like in the Depression era. Farms go up for auction, and it's not the farmer next door buying to increase his acreage - it's big AG. Add in the annual flooding we seem to get 'round here from the Mighty Missouri river, and farming is not a great business to be in, unless you have a separate good paying day job. And yes, it's a Red State... true to form, don't vote for democrats under any circumstance, red state. Some of these people I've gotten to know are insane about it. It's like a religious doctrine to them. We were lucky enough that people lost enough during the Brownback years, they actually voted in a Democratic Governor... and a female at that. But the legislature is, I swear, anti constituent, as they vote for the culture issue of the day... usually something to knock us women back down a peg or two lower. And yes, given the money I don't have, I'd love dearly to move into a Blue State. But age and $$$ preclude that. We just keep trying to survive.

[Cirsium]

42. Understood

Thanks for that. I had family that farmed right there 1850-1995.

[Figarosmom]

34. So is trump going to

Bail out every red state? He turned down huckleberry once, something about the chickens. And of course FEMA.

[quakerboy]

43. I mean..seems like their problems have cancled eachother.

If noones buying the soy,you dont need workers to harvest it.

Plus the farmers go under, and the big boys can buy more land. Plus deficits give them an excuse to further cut back any social safety net programs and any sort of regulatory bodies