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Miles Archer

(21,628 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:31 AM Yesterday

Rove thinks Trump's obsessive, unrelenting flood the zone bullshit may be working against him. LIAR! TAKE IT BACK!

(In a year-end Wall Street Journal opinion column published Dec. 30, Rove) said: “No American president has ever ruled the news cycle like Donald Trump. He’s omnipresent, completely dominating coverage, constantly in front of cameras and inundating us with round-the-clock Truth Social posts.

“His pace is unrelenting. He throws at reporters so much fluff—personal asides, fulminations about adversaries real and imagined, commentary on culture and self-congratulation—that the press and public often ignore important things."

Entering the year of the midterms, Rove, 75, argued that “there are signs that the public is tiring of his hyperbole and insatiable desire for retribution,” predicting that many Americans will increasingly hear only “the offensive or cruel things he says.”

He added: “He’s gone way too far by slapping his name on buildings (the Donald J. Trump and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts) and government programs (the Navy’s “Trump-class” battleship). He might receive a fawning reaction from his MAGA base, but the average American finds such narcissism off-putting."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-veteran-strategist-karl-rove-admits-people-are-tiring-of-donald-trump/
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Rove thinks Trump's obsessive, unrelenting flood the zone bullshit may be working against him. LIAR! TAKE IT BACK! (Original Post) Miles Archer Yesterday OP
Trump fatique its like chalk against the blackboard. Historic NY Yesterday #1
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #2
Exactly PatSeg Yesterday #17
I agree 👍 MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #18
True. Republicans have a tendency to overplay oasis Yesterday #3
Special place in Hell for Karl Rove Attilatheblond Yesterday #4
It would never work with real journalists Jarqui Yesterday #5
Have to kind of agree with this commentary. And I think the evidence is backing up stopdiggin Yesterday #6
I'd say the midterms will tell us everything we need to know about the road to 2028 Miles Archer Yesterday #9
I take a longer view. (in that I'm pretty sure we WON'T be seeing the fullness of stopdiggin Yesterday #13
Republicans have been timing it so the most damage WON'T happen before the midterms Miles Archer Yesterday #16
exactly so. -(nt)- stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #21
The whole "Biden is to blame for Everything" is getting Ars Longa Yesterday #15
I was tired of Trump in 2016 Johonny Yesterday #7
the day of the escalator rampartd Yesterday #11
I was tired of Trump in the '80s. Hugin Yesterday #12
Fuck you Karl Rove. Botany Yesterday #8
Relax....NO one listens to the Turd Blossom democratsruletheday 23 hrs ago #19
So Rove's approach was to "flood the zone with shit". Blumancru Yesterday #10
Rove made Trump possible DemocracyForever Yesterday #14
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that guy . . .. hatrack 22 hrs ago #20

PatSeg

(52,032 posts)
17. Exactly
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 02:34 PM
Yesterday

I don't want him to be quiet and retiring. Until he's gone, we need to have him in the public eye on a daily basis, lest people forget what an abomination his presidency is.

The American public has such a short attention span which is evident by how many voters seemed to forget his first term and the COVID pandemic. Well, he's worse now than he's ever been, so let him keep digging his own grave.



oasis

(53,332 posts)
3. True. Republicans have a tendency to overplay
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:46 AM
Yesterday

their hand. Trump does it on steroids.

Triple dose.

Jarqui

(10,817 posts)
5. It would never work with real journalists
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

Most of US media is controlled by a very few who all go along with it

stopdiggin

(14,984 posts)
6. Have to kind of agree with this commentary. And I think the evidence is backing up
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

this point of view.
(I have obviously been wrong at times in the past about the general 'suckiness' and 'sh*ttyness' of the greater American attitude/vibe, and voting public. Still - that doesn't mean that I will be wrong every time ... )

Miles Archer

(21,628 posts)
9. I'd say the midterms will tell us everything we need to know about the road to 2028
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:03 PM
Yesterday

Whatever Trump could do to "fix" the economy he wrecked won't happen, because he's too busy yelling at voters for not appreciating him enough.

Tens of millions of Americans are about to get screwed on healthcare, so we'll see how many voters believe Trump when he blames Biden.

Until voters make a DIRECT CORRELATION between THEIR PAIN and Trump / Republicans as the CAUSE OF IT, nothing's going to change.

And part of the problem...100% intentional on Trump's part...is that he's simply worn much of America out.

The whole "ballroom" fiasco, the Kennedy Center, the "Donald J Trump Institute of Peace"...

...if he's still breathing, he could EASILY continue at this pace for the next three years.

And the only problem for the people expecting new leadership to undo all of it is that he's doing these things incrementally.

NO ONE is going to "undo" four years of reckless spending overnight.

No idea how the "reversals" would be prioritized. After all, the "time out" that Trump and MAGAt Moses Mikey have taken from actually running the government will need to be addressed first.

stopdiggin

(14,984 posts)
13. I take a longer view. (in that I'm pretty sure we WON'T be seeing the fullness of
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:48 PM
Yesterday

the damage and destruction wrought - in another 6-8 months. And therefore - not sure that we will see the 'watershed' moment that many expect in 26. The political body is perhaps not moribund - but it is very, very ill. Bouncing back to its feet - is not, and probably should not be - the expectation.)

Miles Archer

(21,628 posts)
16. Republicans have been timing it so the most damage WON'T happen before the midterms
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 01:53 PM
Yesterday

So you're right. And if they squeak through the midterms, while we MAY end up electing a Democratic president in 2028, the chances of a "blue wave" in 2028 dramatically decrease.

Ars Longa

(413 posts)
15. The whole "Biden is to blame for Everything" is getting
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 01:03 PM
Yesterday

increasingly eye-rolling........even with his own rancid bunch!

And,.... HE CAN'T STOP DOING IT!!!!

rampartd

(3,710 posts)
11. the day of the escalator
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:06 PM
Yesterday

1 knew he would win, knew it would be bad, but i expected a free market capitalist dystopia, not a soviet style cult of personality.

2. knew that 1/2 of americans would love it.

3. i never dreamed it would be permanent. it is. they are dug in until we lose a world war.

Hugin

(37,366 posts)
12. I was tired of Trump in the '80s.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:16 PM
Yesterday

My yelling of “No! Wait! Stop! Don’t!” went entirely unheeded. But, it usually does.

democratsruletheday

(1,810 posts)
19. Relax....NO one listens to the Turd Blossom
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 04:20 PM
23 hrs ago

he's completely irrelevant. Has been for years really.

Blumancru

(202 posts)
10. So Rove's approach was to "flood the zone with shit".
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:05 PM
Yesterday

What is his criticism, that Chomolini is flooding the zone with TOO MUCH shit?
And who was Rove’s biological father anyway? Where did such a sorry collection of genes come from?

DemocracyForever

(10 posts)
14. Rove made Trump possible
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:51 PM
Yesterday

by creating the Presidential election theft road map in Florida in 2000 that Trump used in 2020 and since 2020.

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