Anyone Against War?

[Kid Berwyn]

Asking for a friend.



Trump is continuing a tradition started when Smedley Butler was a pup.

"Money trumps peace." -- George W Bush

I oppose a madman using the United States military as his own, personal armed gang.

[Martin Eden]

1. Good God, Y'all

What is it good for?

[BidenRocks]

4. Absolutely Nothin!

Say it again!

I despise being the big bad bully!
We cannot issue arbitrary demands to the world!
OR ELSE!
Bullshit!

[Kid Berwyn]

5. Making Money

Q A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran, so I wonder what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our allies?

THE PRESIDENT: It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince them that it's in the world's interest that they forgo their own financial interest.

Source: WH Press Conference, February 14, 2007

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070214-2.html

[Ani Yun Wiya]

2. Count me...

...as in full agreement with you.

[Kid Berwyn]

6. Honored to meet you!

Why DU matters, in a Göbekli Tepe kind of way:

“War Is a Racket.”

And then came the Wall Street Coup to overthrow FDR.

The McCormack-Dickstein Committee Investigation

Astonished by MacGuire’s plans, Butler knew he would need someone to corroborate his story if he was going to stop the intended coup. Having previously worked as the police captain of Philadelphia, Butler reached out to Philadelphia Record writer Paul Comly French, who agreed to meet with MacGuire as well. During this meeting, MacGuire told French that he believed a fascist state was the only answer for America, and that Smedley was the “ideal leader” because he “could organize one million men overnight.”

Armed with French’s mutual testimony, Butler appeared before the McCormack-Dickstein congressional committee, also known as the Special Committee on Un-American Activities, to reveal what he knew about the plot to seize the presidency in November 1934. The committee at first discounted a large part of Butler’s testimony (even writing in their initial report that they saw no reason to subpoena men like John W. Davis, a former presidential hopeful, or Thomas W. Lamont, a partner with J.P. Morgan & Company).

However, with the testimony of French, and the erratic testimony of MacGuire, the committee began to further investigate the plot. The final reports of the committee sang a different tune, finding that all of Butler’s claims could be corroborated as factual. However, they also stressed that the plot was far from being enacted, and it was not clear if the plans would have ever truly come to fruition.

Quickly becoming known as the “White House Coup” and “Wall Street Putsch,” many major news sources derided Butler’s claims, as the committee’s final report was not made available publicly. Those implicated, ranging from the DuPont family to Prescott Bush, the grandfather of future President George W. Bush, laughed off Butler’s claims. Evidence of the validity of Butler’s testimony was not released until the 21st century, when the committee’s papers were published in the Public Domain. No one was ever prosecuted in connection to the plot.

Butler, for his part, went on to continue advocating for veterans. He also became a staunch opponent of capitalism, which he felt fed war efforts. His views were published in his well-known short book War is a Racket, which was published in 1935. There’s no telling how far the plot to overthrow the President may have gone without Butler’s intervention, but one thing is certain: its failure was the work of one patriotic Major General, and his life-long love of democracy.

https://yesterdaysamerica.com/smedley-butler-and-the-1930s-plot-to-overthrow-the-president/

Now, a century later, the superrich descendants of those traitors are foisting a new traitor puppet and his latest warmongery on America. Again.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

13. I am honored by your reply.

Know that I have been in appreciation of your posts for a bit more that twenty years now, and read them all for the sake of learning.

[Eko]

3. I'm against stupid wars.

The fact that the far majority of them are stupid is not lost on me.

[Kid Berwyn]

7. Me, too! Thus, we are Enemies of Fascism.

DU from 2007:

Know your BFEE: Scions of the Military Industrial Complex

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1766663

Some busted links, but the Internet Archive is still kicking.

[Ping Tung]

8. What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless,

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi

[Kid Berwyn]

12. Truth. And who today even remembers Curveball?

Curveball should mean strike three for Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, Tenet, et al.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x451875

It'd be better for everyone, living and dead, for the just to lock up the evil that creates war -- just to make a buck. Take Jeffrey Epstein...

Epstein helping pals make money off war…



How Jeffrey Epstein Helped Israel Establish A Police State In This Country The story began in late 2010, when a disputed presidential election in Cote d'Ivoire triggered violence.

Edited by: NDTV News Desk
Nov 16, 2025

Excerpt…

Ouattara's son met Epstein in New York. Three months later, Epstein met Ouattara's niece Nina Keita and then Barak privately at the Regency Hotel. Epstein later flew to Africa, planning stops in Cote d'Ivoire, Angola, and Senegal.

Barak has claimed his dealings with Epstein were private, but documents suggest Epstein acted as a fixer. After leaving office in March 2013, Barak continued negotiating the deal. On March 19, he received an email from his brother-in-law Doron Cohen with materials from MF Group outlining plans for a surveillance and video monitoring centre in Abidjan. Communications were kept secret using cryptic references.

Negotiations were briefly disrupted by a UN report on Israeli-labelled ammunition, and the embargo was extended. Barak then called Israeli security figures including Amos Malka and Michael “Micky” Federmann, and on May 27, Sidi Tiemoko Toure, Chief of Staff to Ouattara.

Using a “non-security” pretext of building hospitals, Barak arrived in Abidjan on August 1, 2013, meeting top officials and President Ouattara.

On September 16, 2013, Barak received a 13-page proposal from Aharon Ze'evi-Farkash detailing a SIGINT (Signals Intelligence) system for Cote d'Ivoire. Farkash wrote, “The document is based on experience that has been accumulated during Amnon's and my service in the unit… I believe this meets the ‘export‑of‑knowledge' test. I thought it appropriate to bring this to your attention.”

Continues…

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/how-jeffrey-epstein-helped-israel-establish-a-police-state-in-this-country-9645587

The only good to come from this is that the suffering of Ms. Giuffre and the other victims will be evidence that brings these evil criminal elites to justice.

[surfered]

10. Why not all wars?