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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"We Are Watching a Country Fall Under Dictatorship Almost Without Resistance" Historian Robert Kagan
DER SPIEGEL: Mr. Kagan, "This is how fascism comes to America," you wrote almost 10 years ago: "not with jackboots and salutes, but with a television huckster, a phony billionaire, a textbook egomaniac." Did it take the ICE militia killing U.S. citizens in Minneapolis to convince your compatriots of how dangerous Trump really is?
Kagan: Unfortunately, to this day very few Americans have understood what is happening here. Some like what they're seeing, others are in denial about what's happening, still others think it won't be that bad. It's crazy. When you see such developments elsewhere, you think: Why didn't they stand up? Why didn't they flee? And now we are watching, at home, an entire country falling under dictatorship almost without resistance.
DER SPIEGEL: You also predicted in 2023 what Trumps ultimate aim was: Dictatorship is the goal, you said. But you didnt say anything about something like ICE. Did you not think him capable of committing violence against his own citizens?
Kagan: I have to admit, I didnt anticipate this kind of military brutality in the streets. I lacked the imagination for it. But it's still only the average people in the streets who are standing up. I don't know why hardly anyone seems to understand that Trump and the people behind him his deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, the Project 2025 head Russell Vought that these people are actively trying to subvert liberal democracy. They are destroying the work of the founders.
more... https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/u-s-historian-robert-kagan-we-are-watching-a-country-fall-under-dictatorship-almost-without-resistance-a-d262290b-cca0-4c2f-945d-2ef3b64c574f
sop
(18,108 posts)Probably not.
superpatriotman
(6,831 posts)Nt
lostincalifornia
(5,176 posts)will be very difficult to stop this.
What makes it worse is the complicity of much of the press bending their knee to this administration.
johnnyfins
(3,656 posts)does. It's not awareness, it's absolute fatigue and exhaustion.
Look at the sustained efforts in Minnesota. If you don't think that response will occur in all other cities, think again.
kacekwl
(9,026 posts)behavior is there. The history is there. Seems few want to see it.
DownriverDem
(7,000 posts)We are doing all we can to fight back. It's as if folks have no idea what is going on.
BannonsLiver
(20,352 posts)Saying that its happening with no resistance at all is just silly.
Pris
(157 posts)Ice is leaving Minneapolis
wiggs
(8,736 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,673 posts)GiqueCee
(3,724 posts)... is inculcated at an early age. We are spoon-fed a sanitized version of our history, and accept it as gospel because acknowledging its inherent falsity would mean we'd have to confront it. And besides, it's time for Keeping Up With The Kardashians. Let's keep our priorities straight, shall we?
UTUSN
(77,392 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,358 posts)Kid Berwyn
(23,854 posts)The guy loves war, as long as he and his chums are in charge.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Project_for_the_New_American_Century