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malaise

(294,701 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:55 AM 8 hrs ago

Quite a few DUers said he would lose on matters tariffs

A great day

Still I’d love to hear from Mike Johnson, the tool and other ReTHUGs.
The State of the Swamp speech should be more fun or he could croak over the weekend.

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Quite a few DUers said he would lose on matters tariffs (Original Post) malaise 8 hrs ago OP
This is funny because Maga thinks they own the Supreme Court Walleye 8 hrs ago #1
Ding ding malaise 8 hrs ago #2
Croaking would be wonderful. mobeau69 8 hrs ago #3
I listened to the oral arguments LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #4
Is 6-3 close? DemocratSinceBirth 8 hrs ago #6
The ruling by three dissenting justices was so bad that it was shocking to me and others LetMyPeopleVote 6 hrs ago #8
Could it be? Unwind Your Mind 8 hrs ago #5
Presidents are powerful but the Constitution is more powerful than them malaise 7 hrs ago #7

LetMyPeopleVote

(177,568 posts)
4. I listened to the oral arguments
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:02 AM
8 hrs ago

I listened to the oral arguments and did not think that this would be that close of a decision but this is a very divided opinion which is why it took so long to come down.




I agree with Joyce Vance that it will take some caffeine to get through these opinions

LetMyPeopleVote

(177,568 posts)
8. The ruling by three dissenting justices was so bad that it was shocking to me and others
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 01:16 PM
6 hrs ago

This case involves tariffs being authorized under a statute that never mentions tariffs. This should have been an easy descision.



https://joycevance.substack.com/p/the-context-you-need-to-understand?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

The most shocking thing about the Supreme Court’s decision in Learning Resources, the tariffs case, is that three Justices would have let Trump use a statute that doesn’t mention tariffs to impose ones that are unrestricted in amount or length. Fortunately, the other six said no.

We discussed this case extensively ahead of oral argument on November 5, last year. Congress has the power to impose tariffs. But it has, in some cases, “loaned” them to the president, in specific grants with limitations. Here, the Court considered this administration’s claim that the president had the power to impose tariffs, without any limitations, under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The administration contended that the president has that power because the statute says that the president can regulate the importation of foreign goods if there is “any unusual and extraordinary threat” that poses a national emergency......

“This is not a case about tariffs in general or about whether they are good policy. It’s a case about specific tariffs that President Trump imposed in February and whether he had the statutory authority to impose them…

We studied the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit’s decision that rejected Trump’s effort to impose tariffs using IEEPA (I-E-Pa), the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act, for the very simple reason that the Act, unlike other statutes that do give a president the right to impose tariffs, doesn’t mention tariffs at all. It does not give the president any authority to impose them under the statute that he has expressly said he used to do so. This is the kind of textualist argument conservative justices have backed in other cases, and to abandon that approach here would be a sharp and hypocritical departure for them. Last term, Justice Gorsuch wrote that the justices’ primary focus should be on the text of the statute.

The Constitution gives the power to impose taxes, which includes tariffs, to Congress. Because IEEPA doesn’t extend that power to the president, his use of it here is just a power grab, the kind of practice the Supreme Court should push back against if it intends to remain relevant to the American experiment. The Federal Circuit’s decision pointed out that while other laws expressly give the president the power to impose tariffs, IEEPA does not. Congress knows how to give the president the power to impose tariffs when it wants to and because it did not do so here, that should be the end of the inquiry. The administration should lose here…”


Thankfully, it did.

Under basic statutory construction, this should have been a 9-0 decision.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,338 posts)
5. Could it be?
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:07 AM
8 hrs ago

That we have a new 6 vote majority that sees what is happening and has decided this shit has gone way too far and it’s time to reel him in?

I know, I’m a pie eyed optimist ☺️

malaise

(294,701 posts)
7. Presidents are powerful but the Constitution is more powerful than them
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:06 PM
7 hrs ago

Neal Katyal

That effin simple. He did not have the authority to impose tariffs.

M$Greedia needs to stop saying this is shocking. It is the fucking law.
Disgraceful my ass. This should be unsurprising.

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