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Foreign countries havent exactly rushed to answer the American presidents call for assistance. Imagine that.
So to sum up:
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-03-16T13:42:17.264Z
1. Trump alienates/insults allies
2. he launches an unnecessary war with no international legitimacy
3. he declares war âover,â dismisses need for alliesâ help
4. he sees the war go sideways
5. he âdemandsâ allies help us solve a problem he said doesnât exist
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/after-alienating-allies-and-declaring-victory-trump-demands-foreign-help-in-war
The United Kingdom, our once Great Ally, maybe the Greatest of them all, is finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft carriers to the Middle East, the American president wrote. Thats OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we dont need them any longer But we will remember. We dont need people that join Wars after weve already won!...
After claiming in an NBC News interview that unnamed countries had already committed to helping secure the strait a dubious assertion, given the circumstances and available information the Republican demanded that foreign nations step up and provide the U.S. with the kind of security assistance he recently said was unnecessary.
Trump on Strait of Hormuz: "Really, I'm demanding that these countries come in and protect their own territory, because it is their territory ... they should help us. You could make the case that maybe we shouldn't be there at all, because we don't need it. We have a lot of oil."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-03-16T01:05:29.715Z
.....Indeed, the series of events seems preposterous. After spending the last year alienating U.S. allies, Trump launched an unnecessary war with no international legitimacy. He then prematurely declared victory, while simultaneously dismissing the need for international assistance, all while characterizing the Strait of Hormuz as a problem thats already been solved.
It was at this point that the same American president, without explanation, turned on a dime and started demanding assistance from the same countries hes insulted to address a problem hes claimed doesnt exist.
Foreign countries havent exactly rushed to answer Trumps call for help, and Australian and Chinese officials have already rejected U.S. outreach. Imagine that.
Irish_Dem
(81,024 posts)Like the Pacific Islands in WWII.
Solly Mack
(96,861 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,122 posts)The defense secretarys disdain for rules of engagement and the laws of war is apparent. And it could lead to war crimes by Americans and against Americans.
The dangerous significance of Pete Hegsethâs âno quarterâ Iran war pledge -
— Susan Cooper aka Buzzedition (@buzzedition.bsky.social) 2026-03-15T03:45:22.636Z
The defense secretaryâs disdain for rules of engagement and the laws of war is apparent. And it could lead to war crimes â by Americans and against Americans.
www.ms.now/opinion/hegs...
https://www.ms.now/opinion/hegseth-war-crimes-iran-no-quarter
As MS NOWs Julia Jester rightly noted, Fridays comments from Hegseth calling for no quarter stand out for even more implicitly greenlighting the military to violate the broader laws of war as well as the militarys own longstanding rules of engagement:
Orders or threats of no quarter a term used for killing enemies who surrender or are rendered unable to fight have been considered violations of international law since the Hague Convention of 1899, with directions to give no quarter listed as a war crime following World War II. [ ]
And its not just global rules that are being flouted. Not only does the term no quarter violate the Geneva Convention, it defies the U.S. Marine Corps own rules of engagement: Do not engage anyone who has surrendered or is out of battle due to sickness or wounds.
.....That seems unlikely given a new effort from Hegseth to undertake a ruthless overhaul of the militarys judge advocate general corps and their fellow civilian lawyers at the Pentagon. As The Atlantic reported, the concern with this review is that it provides cover for an attempt to reduce the ranks of lawyers, purge internal dissent, and eliminate guardrails designed to restrict the military from carrying out legally dubious orders. And while operations like the sinking of an Iranian warship returning from a multinational training exercise are technically allowed under the laws of war, its hard to say they were fully legal under American law, given the administrations lack of a clear legal rationale for the war effort.
Despite what Hegseth may think, words matter in times of war. Beyond conveying the message of what is gained through fighting, it is only through clear communication that the orders from the top can be carried out by the servicemembers whove sworn an oath to obey them. His refusal to acknowledge that there are times where things other than body count should factor into combat decisions threatens the cohesion and professionalism of the military.
Likewise, its the global commitment to the established laws of war that keeps American civilians safe and untargeted. In rejecting them with his statements, he is incentivizing those who serve under his command to not only discard their humanity but destroy a shield protecting their fellow Americans from having the same standard of maximum lethality carried out against them.
Timewas
(2,730 posts)They have been commiting crimes of some sort almost 24 --7 and no one has or is even trying to do anything about it... It is in the news almost daily...
malaise
(295,543 posts)That is all.
Then the jackass wrote that hell bomb some more places for fun.
These are raving lunatic war criminals
Jack Valentino
(4,913 posts)PCIntern
(28,289 posts)unmercifully torture in ways beyond our comprehension American soldiers. They will simultaneously release a video of this asshole saying that he doesnt give a shit about the Geneva convention.
Hes more into the Vageena Convention (sic) if you get my drift. Dangerous.
liberalgunwilltravel
(1,198 posts)Is the one who should be worrying. The Hague awaits.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,122 posts)The secretary of defense is a military leader in the chain of command. Whether Hegseth appreciates it or not, his words alone have legal significance.
Why Pete Hegsethâs talk about âno quarterâ could itself be against U.S. and international law
— Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-03-17T11:23:17.383Z
www.ms.now/opinion/pete...
https://www.ms.now/opinion/pete-hegseth-no-quarter-war-crime
These words in themselves could be a violation of both U.S. and international law.
Hegseths declaration of no quarter implicates a foundational prohibition under the law of war. These are the binding rules agreed to by states that seek to mitigate the horrors and bloodshed of conflict through pragmatic balancing of humanitarian and military considerations. The prohibition of the denial of quarter is a paradigmatic illustration of the law of war advancing both sets of considerations.
Dating back to at least the Civil War, the denial of quarter has been forbidden. As articulated in the 1863 Lieber Code (Instructions for the Government of Armies of the United States in the Field, General Order No. 100), It is against the usage of modern war to resolve, in hatred and revenge, to give no quarter. No body of troops has the right to declare that it will not give, and therefore will not expect, quarter. (emphasis added) This rule would subsequently be incorporated into treaties to which the United States is a party, including in the regulations annexed to the 1907 Hague Convention IV, and as customary law binding on all states. Importantly, this law of war rule applies to air, land and sea warfare.
As reflected in the Lieber Code (and the Department of Defenses own Law of War Manual), the ban on denial of quarter includes both: 1) a prohibition on conducting hostilities on the basis that legitimate offers of surrender by enemy personnel will not be accepted, but instead that there should be no survivors, and 2) a prohibition on simply declaring no quarter itself.
In other words, the law of war prohibits military leaders from the speech act of announcing no quarter alone.....
Denial of quarter is also a war crime under U.S. law. The War Crimes Act criminalizes violations of the following rule: it is especially forbidden [t]o declare that no quarter will be given. Thus U.S. criminal law, like the international law of war, imposes individual liability for the speech act of declaring no quarter itself regardless of whether the declaration is ever implemented.
A declaration of no quarter by a military leader is not only an unlawful order (the subject of a now famous video message from a number of Democratic lawmakers), but one that a court would likely find to be manifestly or patently unlawful. This means that if military subordinates were to execute a directive of no quarter, they would have no viable defense of following superior orders.
Hegseth is a pompous idiot who wants to be macho. Hegseth is endangering our troops with his pronouncements. Our troops will face additional risks is our countries follow Hegseth's example
David__77
(24,603 posts)Those acting otherwise (regardless of what they feel compelled to say) are deluded.