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These revelations about Cesar Chavez are heartbreaking and disturbing. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth 4 hrs ago OP
Dolores Huerta did all the real work anyways. SSJVegeta 4 hrs ago #1
I wholeheartedly agree with your idea... ret5hd 4 hrs ago #6
Jealous! SSJVegeta 3 hrs ago #9
She and Larry Itilong did the heavy lifting obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #13
Ultimately the farmworkers did it. SSJVegeta 3 hrs ago #16
They don't have to be leftstreet 4 hrs ago #2
Prior to the revelations he was a secular saint of the left. DemocratSinceBirth 4 hrs ago #4
He had a cult of personality going when he was leading the movement. WhiskeyGrinder 4 hrs ago #5
The revelations started well before he died obamanut2012 3 hrs ago #14
Yesterday when I first heard it I thought it was a Reich wing hit job kimbutgar 4 hrs ago #3
Better yet, make no heroes. Solly Mack 4 hrs ago #7
Hemingway DemocratSinceBirth 3 hrs ago #8
You can admire people without turning them into something other than human. Solly Mack 3 hrs ago #12
What revelations? milestogo 3 hrs ago #10
That he raped and assaulted women in the movement, including children. WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #15
It seems that dead Cesar Chavez is being held more accountable than our living president Buckeyeblue 3 hrs ago #11
"don't learn too much about them" - been doing that via The University of YouTube" UTUSN 3 hrs ago #17

SSJVegeta

(2,798 posts)
1. Dolores Huerta did all the real work anyways.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 12:31 PM
4 hrs ago

These accomplishments are at least as much hers as they were his. I am happy to replace Cesar Chavez Day with Dolores Huerta Day.

Still so terrible to hear these women's stories.

ret5hd

(22,473 posts)
6. I wholeheartedly agree with your idea...
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 12:59 PM
4 hrs ago

i have “met” (very briefly) ms. huerta…very very impressed.

obamanut2012

(29,328 posts)
13. She and Larry Itilong did the heavy lifting
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 01:57 PM
3 hrs ago

Same, replace with DH's Day, or Farm Workers Day.

SSJVegeta

(2,798 posts)
16. Ultimately the farmworkers did it.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 02:12 PM
3 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Mar 18, 2026, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

This is theirs. Not any one person. But yes. Huertas is enormously under-credited for her role as a civil rights leader. Along with most oft he other leaders.

leftstreet

(40,356 posts)
2. They don't have to be
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 12:32 PM
4 hrs ago

A piece of shit is a piece of shit. He was the patriarchy's choice to be the face of a movement. A movement apparently powered by strong women. Women willing to do anything for the solidarity of labor. They are the heroes

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,832 posts)
4. Prior to the revelations he was a secular saint of the left.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 12:46 PM
4 hrs ago

Kind of like Bobby Kennedy who he broke bread with to end a hunger strike.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,888 posts)
5. He had a cult of personality going when he was leading the movement.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 12:49 PM
4 hrs ago

There was plenty of controversy about him both within and outside of the movement in those days.

kimbutgar

(27,200 posts)
3. Yesterday when I first heard it I thought it was a Reich wing hit job
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 12:35 PM
4 hrs ago

But hearing Ms Huerta verifying it is so sad and heartbreaking.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,832 posts)
8. Hemingway
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 01:27 PM
3 hrs ago

Ernest Hemingway said the older you get it's harder to have heroes, but it is kind of necessary.

Solly Mack

(96,861 posts)
12. You can admire people without turning them into something other than human.
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 01:45 PM
3 hrs ago

Humans are imperfect and some of them do horrible things.

Some of those who do horrible things also do some good things.

Heroes can become inextricably linked to a cause in the minds of people - the danger being the cause can suffer when the truth about the hero comes out. Leaves the cause vulnerable to attack.

And those who point to the person as a hero are left feeling let down and betrayed.

Let the cause motivate you, not the person.







UTUSN

(77,624 posts)
17. "don't learn too much about them" - been doing that via The University of YouTube"
Wed Mar 18, 2026, 02:17 PM
3 hrs ago

over the past few years, and have learned more history and biography than everything in my academic stereotypes. But knowledge is power, and it's better to meet and be disabused about "heroes" and to learn much about them. Better to bear the reality.




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