'The 19th Amendment was a bad idea': The far-right's wish list for extreme voter suppression

[RandySF]

President Donald Trump and the GOP are attacking voting rights through executive orders to roll back mail-in voting and the SAVE America Act, which would impose strict ID requirements.

But to some far-right Christian influencers, that’s small potatoes.

They’re pushing for even harsher voting restrictions. Among them: revoking women’s right to vote, instituting “family voting,” and only allowing property owners the right to vote.

These ideas haven’t made it into legislation — yet. But they’re growing in popularity among far-right Christian nationalists, many of whom are motivated by a belief that women should have no role at all in public affairs.



https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/the-19th-amendment-was-a-bad-idea-the-far-rights-wish-list-for-extreme-voter-suppression/

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. As someone who votes by mail in a blue state (Illinois) for health reasons...

these bastards can go straight to hell.

[Deuxcents]

2. I they'd have to have Congress repeal the 19th Amendment which was fought for since 1848 and we wont let it go

[Laurelin]

3. Pretty sure we said we wouldn't let abortion go

I have no clue anymore.

[Deuxcents]

4. Yes, it definitely got a real kick in the teeth so we gotta be extra dedicated since we know what it means to lose

I’m sure the tactics will be different because lessons learned to not let it happen again.gotta be smarter and fight harder..too precious not to.

[GenThePerservering]

8. Abortion rights were nor legislated into

The constitution, though.

[valleyrogue]

15. Two-thirds of Congress and three-fourths of state legislatures.

Impossible to do so.

[niyad]

5. When I was pointing out decades ago that the misogynist, theocratic,

whack jobs wanted to repeal 19A, (because I paid attention to what they were saying) I was told, repeatedly, that this was just a few crazies, that nobody would take them seriously, that such a thing could never happen.

And yet, now we have elected officials openly saying this. And people criticized me fot saying I feared the religious nutjobs in this country more than those in other countries. Turns out even I was overly optimistic.

[Scrivener7]

10. Whenever people say, "Just a few crazies," you KNOW it's an idea that will catch on like wildfire with the far right.

[valleyrogue]

16. The far right isn't anywhere near the majority.

These idiots have no conception of how the US Constitution works.

[Scrivener7]

23. And yet, they've managed to take the most basic human right away from a little more than half the population.

It's nice that you think this is an impossibility, but I was naive enough to think my right to decide what happens with my body was a right no one could take away. And I was assured of that here on DU.

They will try to do it. And I'm not as sanguine as you are that it's a zero chance possibility.

[valleyrogue]

25. Trying isn't succeeding.

Abortion is a separate issue. Do you really think that somebody can undo the 19th by fiat?

JFC.

[Scrivener7]

30. See my answer below. And JFC? I'm guessing that means "I disagree," but with a big dash of nasty, right?

[niyad]

33. JFC is jesus fucking christ, so you are quite correct.

[Scrivener7]

34. Yes. Also translated as, "I can't believe anyone is so stupid as to believe what you are saying."

Or else he's praying enthusiastically, but I don't think that's it.

[niyad]

35. That, too.

[Irish_Dem]

29. We no longer have a US Constitution.

Or a Bill of Rights.
Or rule of law and checks and balances.

Denial is no longer a good coping strategy.

[Cirsium]

40. They don't care

They don't care how the US Constitution works and it doesn't matter how the US Constitution works.

The US Constitution works, and the entire system works if and only if the people in power honor it. That ship has sailed.

[valleyrogue]

18. It is impossible to do it. Impossible.

Only another constitutional amendment to undo the 19th can be done.

[niyad]

20. You are missing the main point here. And that is the fact that a

disturbing percentage (even if NOT a majority) of people in this country HATE AND FEAR women so much that they are saying and doing everything in their power to control women. Even if they cannot repeal 19A, they will do everything in their power to make it difficult, impossible, for women to vote. They did it with abortion. They are filled witth hatred, anger, resentment, and an obscene lust for power and control.

Please do not tell us what they cannot do, because we see daily what they CAN AND WILL.

[valleyrogue]

24. No, I am not.

I have probably followed the political far right longer than you.

This radical incarnation has not been even talked about until recently. Rushdoony ideas have only taken hold with a minority of Christians since he died in 2000. The NAR was a little bit earlier, in the 1990s, but they weren't pushing for repeal of the 19th.

It is impossible to change a constitutional amendment except through another one.

The ONLY exception is through a constitutional convention, and that won't happen because of the legislatures.

NOBODY can do anything by fiat. In fact, repealing the Voting Rights Act is far more likely than repeal of the 19th.

Comparing the overturning of Roe v. Wade to this proposal is apples and oranges. Roe was overturned by overturning precedent, while repealing the 19th doesn't involve the USSC but Congress and the legislatures.

There is too much paranoia about what the far right can actually do. Trump declaring the 19th null and void isn't going to happen.

Not even P25 calls for this.

[Scrivener7]

28. They have unlimited money and they will use that unlimited money to achieve their goal.

Their great talent is circumventing the Constitution.

Exhibit A: the SAVE act. That will skim off a good percentage of women voters if it passes. Succeed or fail, they will use their unlimited money to come up with something else to take rights from another tranch of women. As with abortion rights, they will chip away around the edges for as long as it takes to achieve their goal. They always play the long game and, as I'm sure you can see, they're testing tactics that were used successfully, despite the Constitution, for generations in the south to prevent black people from voting.

I agree that this will be more difficult to do than trashing abortion rights, and you may be right that it is impossible. But they will certainly try, and we will certainly need to fight their attempts.

I put nothing past them or the American people, and I can no longer sit back in the certainty that my rights will hold.

And an aside, that asshole died in 2021.

[niyad]

31. Wow, nice insult there, since you apparently have no idea how old I am,

nor my history, but typical dismissal. And, JFC, you keep harping on repealing 19 A, and failed to address how they are actively working to make it difficult to impossible for women to vote. JFC.

But do keep trying. At this point, we need all the laughs we can get.

[Cirsium]

41. That would be nice

If the people in power ignore the law, the law may as well not exist.

[Mister Ed]

6. And it wouldn't end there.

What would eventually become of women in the U.S. once they could no longer vote?

Look to the places in the world and the points in history where women have been most cruelly suppressed. There is no bottom...

[EuterpeThelo]

7. Yep

Margaret Atwood said she drew on real events/circumstances for The Handmaid's Tale - that everything she wrote had actually happened somewhere in the world in history. We need to stop thinking "it can't happen here." It already is.

[niyad]

22. Their attacks on no-fault divorce, domestic violence laws, child custody. .

the list goes on. They will not be happy until women are completely enslaved, these insane, hate-filled talibangelicals.

[Irish_Dem]

27. Probably want to start burning women at the stake again.

Take us back centuries.

[niyad]

32. That has already been proposed.

[Irish_Dem]

42. They are refusing to give dying women medical care.

And send them to the hospital parking lot to die.

[GenThePerservering]

9. Every single country that has disenfranchised

women has gone into the dust.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

11. "Christian Nationalists" are NOT Christian.

They pretend to be Christian. They pretend to be tough.

Were these people to achieve their dream, good luck in making it on 1 income and NOT allowing women ANY rights. I do not have to draw a picture. But those with a brain KNOW what I am talking about.

[GenThePerservering]

12. Men and Owned Women have been whining

about women voting for decades. Somehow I don't think they'll be able to stuff that genie back into the bottle.

[Redleg]

13. I wondered when they would get around to returning to the "good old days" when...

the only people who could vote were propertied white males. These f@ckers must be high on their own farts if they think this will be broadly popular in this country. Typical right-wing over-reach.

[valleyrogue]

14. They wouldn't be talking this bullshit if women voted GOP.

The GOP can't win elections without some kind of fraud because their policies are so terrible for people. Women are far more likely to vote Democratic than men.

Face it: Most white males are idiots when it comes to voting. That is just a fact.

Short of a constitutional convention, which won't happen ever, repealing the 19th is impossible to do.

[MineralMan]

17. Wherever There Are Rights,

there are people trying to take those rights away. Always.

[Rebl2]

19. I am sure

a lot of republican women would not agree with this. Sick of these far right Christian people and their backwards thinking and ways.

[niyad]

21. And there are a good many women who are fine with this idea.

[Initech]

26. No it wasn't. You know what was a bad idea? Letting Donald Trump back in the White House.

[DSandra]

36. Trans people and undocumented immigrants were only the beginning...

If you see fascist nations, even outside of Nazi Germany and Mussolini Italy, the "traditional family" is a part of the movement, which of course means taking away womens rights. In Franco Spain, women were forced back into the home, women lost all their rights, married women were effectively in the custody of their husbands, and even had to seek permission just to work, own property, and to travel, and who's main purpose in life was to born and raise children.

And yes, this is essentially Handmaids Tale.

This is why supporting the people who are in the front lines of this political war is important to everyone else, if not because one cares much about rights of other groups, at the very least because otherwise it's only a matter of time before you end up in the front lines.

[GenThePerservering]

37. I believe quite a few women vote gop

so they'll be disenfranchising their own people...oh, wait - women aren't people.

[themaguffin]

38. Well, they've been pushing this forever.

[artemisia1]

39. "The Handmaid's Tale"; coming to a craphole Red State soon. /nt

[MorbidButterflyTat]

43. Incels fantasy

Tiny man babies failing at life and despised by women.