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This aged well! (Original Post) SocialDemocrat61 Apr 30 OP
She warned us MustLoveBeagles Apr 30 #1
Mostly mediocre white, men. OhioBack2Blue Apr 30 #14
Not even mostly NJCher May 1 #35
I will never understand why UpInArms Apr 30 #2
I will never understand why Wiz Imp Apr 30 #3
I understand those born into wealth and power --even those tech bro gazillionaires JT45242 Apr 30 #19
I think you hit the nail on the head: AZ8theist Apr 30 #22
They are either: 1) literally bought off, 2) obedient to pastors, or... OhioBack2Blue Apr 30 #18
This is EXACTLY why churches need to be TAXED. AZ8theist Apr 30 #23
Works for me! calimary May 1 #32
Sophisticated brainwashing. That is why. Stems from shareholder primacy doctrine in news media corps. n/t PatrickforB Apr 30 #21
Yep. dalton99a Apr 30 #4
She was right about this too SocialDemocrat61 Apr 30 #5
But establishment... betsuni Apr 30 #6
In the Democratic Party remember who the establishment is SocialDemocrat61 Apr 30 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 30 #10
I think of them as the heartbeat of the party radical noodle Apr 30 #15
It should have been "will" instead of "could" Stargleamer Apr 30 #8
This didn't: W_HAMILTON Apr 30 #9
Wow, that is very telling. LisaM Apr 30 #13
Here's hoping she doesn't have a problem pregnancy in todays United States of Gilead. AZ8theist Apr 30 #24
Democratic Establishment Elites Bad was/is the message. betsuni May 1 #34
Now this mess is upon us...... Historic NY Apr 30 #11
Not if we can elect Democrats to all 3 branches.... AZ8theist Apr 30 #25
Why is this so easy in the US? SidneyR Apr 30 #12
The U.S. is wholly based on $$$$$$$ dave99 Apr 30 #16
We coulda had her! Joinfortmill Apr 30 #17
I can only quote Stephanie Miller. boonecreek Apr 30 #20
TRUMP SPOKE THE TRUTH IN 2015!!! AZ8theist Apr 30 #26
LOL - that's my signature line! Totally Tunsie Apr 30 #30
Hillary was right LetMyPeopleVote Apr 30 #27
TY, LMPV... And, I bet she didn't want Cha Apr 30 #29
Damn those who listened to the Liars Cha Apr 30 #28
Smart, smart Lady. Totally Tunsie Apr 30 #31
Mine, too. calimary May 1 #33

Wiz Imp

(10,522 posts)
3. I will never understand why
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:17 AM
Apr 30

someone with a functioning brain would ever vote for a republican.

I guess the answer to that is nobody who votes republican has a functioning brain.

JT45242

(4,160 posts)
19. I understand those born into wealth and power --even those tech bro gazillionaires
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 01:20 PM
Apr 30

I will never understand why anyone not of the ruling wealth class votes against their own self interest and every moral principle of nearly every religion, philosophy, and common sense.

OhioBack2Blue

(207 posts)
18. They are either: 1) literally bought off, 2) obedient to pastors, or...
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 12:28 PM
Apr 30

3)....bought the Republicon mythology that it is the Democratic party and Democratic social safety nets keeping them down and not:

1) The structural bias and discrimination in hiring, housing, enterprise development, etc.
2) Lending practices
3) Redlining in real estate
4) Voter suppression
5) Grocery deserts
6) Living while oppressed tax
7) White fragility
8) Gross Injustice in policing and in the court system

A women I know, who is Black, runs a radio show, that I am a frequent guest on. She told me her pastor ordered the parishioners to vote for Trump, otherwise be condemned by God, because Trump was the savior. She ended up voting for Trump 2xs. She could not vote for him a third time because, as she mentioned, "Trump represents everything I am against." "I mean look what he is actually saying and doing." She almost ended up leaving her church. When her White church "friends" of 20 plus years found out she voted for Kamala, they immediately alienated her.

Same for the LGBTIQA "community." I think there are now more sexual and gender diverse people outside the "community" and with little knowledge of the historical political struggle, language, arts, economy, and its import for the current struggle, than in it. I am finding myself having to be very patient and non-judgmental when an opportunity for dialogue starts, in highlighting their circular reasoning.

PatrickforB

(15,542 posts)
21. Sophisticated brainwashing. That is why. Stems from shareholder primacy doctrine in news media corps. n/t
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 02:42 PM
Apr 30

betsuni

(29,332 posts)
6. But establishment...
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:35 AM
Apr 30

Trump was anti-establishment. May as well meow and bark for all words mean.

Response to SocialDemocrat61 (Reply #7)

Stargleamer

(2,789 posts)
8. It should have been "will" instead of "could"
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 10:45 AM
Apr 30

The Republicans vowed no more David Souters a long time ago.

LisaM

(29,692 posts)
13. Wow, that is very telling.
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:39 AM
Apr 30

At the very least, it shows that we have a pressing need to teach civics better in this country.

betsuni

(29,332 posts)
34. Democratic Establishment Elites Bad was/is the message.
Fri May 1, 2026, 02:52 AM
May 1

Looking to a future where everybody votes against Democrats.

What's the point again?

Historic NY

(40,150 posts)
11. Now this mess is upon us......
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:12 AM
Apr 30

if slappy and sammie retire we are fucked for 40 yrs. Telling me your vote doesn't matter, you deserve it.

AZ8theist

(7,675 posts)
25. Not if we can elect Democrats to all 3 branches....
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 05:42 PM
Apr 30

...then expand the court to 13. Effectively kill the fascist majority.
There's no set "law" the court has to be limited to 9.

SidneyR

(237 posts)
12. Why is this so easy in the US?
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 11:16 AM
Apr 30

Why don't we have a nonpartisan nomination process for court judges, like Canada and the UK?

AZ8theist

(7,675 posts)
26. TRUMP SPOKE THE TRUTH IN 2015!!!
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 05:45 PM
Apr 30

He claimed if you voted for Hillary, you'd end up with a criminal in the White House.

Well, I voted for Hillary, and that's exactly what I got.

Cha

(320,911 posts)
28. Damn those who listened to the Liars
Thu Apr 30, 2026, 08:23 PM
Apr 30

about Hillary.

Mahalo, SocialDemocrat.. and to Hillary.

calimary

(90,987 posts)
33. Mine, too.
Fri May 1, 2026, 02:24 AM
May 1

She would have been GREAT! BRILLIANT. Absolutely FIRST CLASS. And what a role model for all our little girls! Equality at last!

Oh well….



Hey, I can dream, can’t I?

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