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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSOME Democrat PLEASE put forth a LEGIT Voter ID bill.
Take this issue away from the MAGA crowd. THEIR Bill is NOT for "voter ID" & we all know it.
Yes, a REAL bill could be put forth by Democrats; make the GOP block the bill from a vote or vote against it. EVERYONE likely already HAS a valid voting ID & if they dont they need to GET one. We drive people to the polls to vote, let's drive them to the election office to get a voter ID or a State ID. You generally have to have an ID to go to the doctor, the bank, to get some prescription meds, etc. I'm tired of hearing the "we dont need a law" complaints . They are going to HAMMER us with ads saying "democrats dont support allowing only citizens vote" because we are against their bullshit anti-voter bill. This IS a big deal to most voters just like the border was a big deal.
We cannot afford to let them have the issue.
DO IT.
standingtall
(3,181 posts)and gives credibility to their propaganda. The ads would not stop even if we did do that and would only encourage republicans to propose even stricter voter ID laws and they will say see even the Democrats agree there is a bunch of illegals voting which is a lie. Biden proposing a border bill that Trump and republicans blew up didn't move the needle with voters who shared those sentiments and neither will this it would only be playing into their hands.
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standingtall
(3,181 posts)with what would essentially be a poll tax by another name to appease republicans you can't compromise with republicans thinking we could for decades is a big part of the reason we are in this mess in the first place.
Ms. Toad
(38,800 posts)If all citizens could get an ID proving citizenship by paying money, Democrats could sponsor a bill that would pay all necessary costs (including at least minimum wage for time expended) to get the ID.
Unfortunately, there are people who simply don't have access to the documents necessary to prove citizenship = no matter how much time and money they spend. My father was born at home, for example. His birth was registered - either at the time, or was established later. He had relatively educated parents, he was educated, and he was white. I'm not sure whether his birth was attended by a midwife or not - but in the same era and for a few decades after - in the South, especially, midwives to black children were discouraged from registering their births. If the birth was not registered at the time, the documents needed to create a secondary record of birth (baptismal certificates, marriage registries, for example) may have been destroyed when poor black churches were burned in racially motivated attacks.
MichMan
(17,374 posts)We don't?
Isn't that what Republicans accuse us of doing? Letting non citizens vote?
Ms. Toad
(38,800 posts)Democrats proposing a counter voter ID bill doesn't address the issue the OP contends we will be hammered on in advertisements - BECAUSE - any voter ID bill that does require proof of citizenship disenfranchises those citizens who cannot prove their citizenship because documentation which is relatively automatically created now simply does not exist for many older citizens, especially poor, minority, and female.
Democrats should not support a "proof of citizenship" bill, and no other kind of identification will render the potential Republican advertisements moot.
MichMan
(17,374 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,800 posts)Quiet Em
(2,993 posts)Only citizens are allowed to vote.
Republicans are looking for ways to kick voters off the rolls.
This is a non-issue made up by the con artist because he can't accept that he lost the 2020 election and he doesn't want to accept that Republicans are going to lose a lot of seats in 26.
bigtree
(94,621 posts)This bill has 220 cosponsors 220 Democrats plus its sponsor.
betsuni
(29,265 posts)SOME should PLEASE use their computer machines to look things up before becoming overexcited about the imaginary Democratic Party in their heads.