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ABC123Easy

(372 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:34 PM 5 hrs ago

Several Women Who Dated Graham Platner Recall 'Unsettling' Behavior

It seems Platner may be lying about the Nazi tattoo. Take of this article what you will. My gut is telling me that if he wins the election, in a few years we may be reflecting back on the good old days with "concerned" Susan Collins. I certainly hope not but my spider sense says to beware of this guy.

"Some of the women also raised questions about his trustworthiness. Mr. Platner’s insistence that he did not know that his tattoo was a Nazi symbol until it became a campaign issue last fall was simply not true, Ms. Fifield said. After all, she said, he had taught her the word for it years earlier, referring to it as “my Totenkopf.”"

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nlA.iyvb.cogFTy2xM4vN&smid=url-share

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Several Women Who Dated Graham Platner Recall 'Unsettling' Behavior (Original Post) ABC123Easy 5 hrs ago OP
Related thread from earlier pat_k 4 hrs ago #1
Being physically abusive and blocking women in rooms isn't something to just ignore like he belches at the dinner table EdmondDantes_ 4 hrs ago #4
Dear Goddess, I just read the entire article! Still shaking. niyad 3 hrs ago #10
You're OK with this, then? mcar 3 hrs ago #12
Here's Nicolle Wallace's report: Rhiannon12866 3 hrs ago #15
Maine has ranked voting, including in this primary RockCreek 4 hrs ago #2
It sounds to me that Maine is determined to nominate him. LisaL 4 hrs ago #3
Enough yankee87 4 hrs ago #5
Whatever ABC123Easy 4 hrs ago #6
I can guarantee that is not going to happen. LisaL 4 hrs ago #7
He is the PRESEPUMPTIVE nominee until the results are in from niyad 4 hrs ago #9
FYI, Bernie also endorsed John Fetterman MichMan 3 hrs ago #11
No. mcar 3 hrs ago #13
Stories of redemption and reform are woven into the fabric of our nation. pat_k 2 hrs ago #20
What is his redemption arc? WhiskeyGrinder 2 hrs ago #21
Yes, what exactly did he do for redemption? LisaL 2 hrs ago #23
I'd call the personal transformation he describes "redemption." YMMV. pat_k 2 hrs ago #26
Have you heard the man speak? pat_k 2 hrs ago #25
And I don't believe he is being honest. LisaL 2 hrs ago #27
Things still don't add up. Nixie 2 hrs ago #32
Do you live in ME? If so, do you plan to vote for Collins (or not vote, a default vote for Collins). pat_k 2 hrs ago #33
Let's just say I am very glad I don't have to vote in ME. LisaL 2 hrs ago #35
What transformation does he describe? WhiskeyGrinder 2 hrs ago #28
Talking about the "dark periods" of struggles with alcohol, anger, and PTSD in the past tense... pat_k 2 hrs ago #29
So if he talks about it in a past tense, he doesn't have any of these issues anymore? LisaL 2 hrs ago #31
As I said an earlier post, YMMV pat_k 2 hrs ago #37
oh I thought maybe he had talked about how he recognized harm he had caused, had a moment where he realized he WhiskeyGrinder 1 hr ago #38
I have only seen a handful of appearances so can't speak to much except what I saw. pat_k 1 hr ago #50
It comes across as a bit unstable, imo. I've heard he's on 100% Nixie 2 hrs ago #30
According to the various bio bits, he is on disability for PTSD. niyad 1 hr ago #39
Maybe his 3 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan? He has spoken about his PTSD Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #52
Or good coaching? Good PR? Abusive people, and rape apologists, niyad 2 hrs ago #36
I've known a few people over the years who abused alcohol who engaged in despicable behavior while drunk. pat_k 1 hr ago #54
I said "abusive people", not people who abuse alcohol. And I notice niyad 1 hr ago #57
I meant that people say and do things that are out of character when drinking. pat_k 25 min ago #59
P.S. pat_k 8 min ago #61
Gosh, I had no idea I was such an influential and powerful niyad 1 min ago #63
This is what an authentically "flawed candidate" is. betsuni 1 hr ago #41
Is that same Bernie who endorsed John Fetterman? Jose Garcia 3 hrs ago #16
Yep, that's the man. LisaL 2 hrs ago #24
Sanders: Fetterman 'Is Going To Be A Real Fighter For The Working Class' MorbidButterflyTat 4 min ago #62
I'm so concerned! Mysterian 4 hrs ago #8
So you're OK with this? mcar 3 hrs ago #14
I'm totally not okay with it. ABC123Easy 3 hrs ago #18
Some here are, I'm saddened to say mcar 3 hrs ago #19
Super duper concerned! ABC123Easy 3 hrs ago #17
It is troubling. mr715 2 hrs ago #22
My gut tells me they're probably all employed by a centrist lobbying group. Emile 2 hrs ago #34
All the women are liars? niyad 1 hr ago #40
My gut says they could be. Emile 1 hr ago #42
Because women always lie? niyad 1 hr ago #44
No, I was thinking of a centrist lobbying group Emile 1 hr ago #46
Do I understand then that the difference is these women are lying niyad 1 hr ago #51
I know there is a centrist lobbying group Emile 1 hr ago #53
What are the terrible things the other women accused Platner of that he hasn't addressed? He has Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #48
And several don't. Read the whole article. Doesn't make any of them liars. People have said he and Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #43
Oh sure. LisaL 1 hr ago #45
Hey! mr715 1 hr ago #47
Urrrrp! orangecrush 1 hr ago #49
. mr715 1 hr ago #55
I am not ok with this Wifes husband 1 hr ago #56
I just want him to vote correctly, I don't want to date him questionseverything 1 hr ago #58
Sadly, neither party is going to get extreme hotshots gulliver 18 min ago #60

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
1. Related thread from earlier
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:47 PM
4 hrs ago

More unsavory news regarding Graham Platner
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221282415

As Nanjeanne notes in that other thread:

He has acknowledged as poor behavior. But keep feeling if this is what they came up with after working and trying so hard I personally can’t get that worked up about it. It seems like so much focus being made to take this guy down. And im much more interested in taking Susan Collins down.

He was a terrible boyfriend. And a bad husband who decided to work on that. He had anger issues. He drank too much. Stuff he’s acknowledged.
...


As for me, he's gonna be the nominee in a few days. I will be pulling for him in the general. (I live in WA, so have no actual say, aside from contributing).

I have trouble imagining a skeleton big enough to make Susan Collins and lower chances of Dems winning the Senate a "better" option.

I could be wrong about him. He could win and implode in office somehow and end up resigning, but Susan Collins will be gone.

And, if he did implode, and Shah (or whoever gets the nod on the 9th) wins the governorship, we'd have a Dem appointed until a special election.

EdmondDantes_

(2,167 posts)
4. Being physically abusive and blocking women in rooms isn't something to just ignore like he belches at the dinner table
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:01 PM
4 hrs ago

There's a difference between being a terrible boyfriend and an abusive one. 3 women have independently said he's the latter.

mcar

(46,464 posts)
12. You're OK with this, then?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:47 PM
3 hrs ago
But she said he regularly grabbed her by the shoulders — sometimes hard enough to leave marks — and, on one occasion, yanked her out of a cab by her wrist after an argument when she wanted to stay in the car.

During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held the door closed from the other side so she couldn’t get out, telling her to remain there until she was “calm.” Eventually, Ms. Fifield said, she fell asleep and left the next morning.

“It hurt,” she said. But she added: “It didn’t cause an injury, it didn’t break my arm.”

Rhiannon12866

(259,792 posts)
15. Here's Nicolle Wallace's report:
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:59 PM
3 hrs ago
BREAKING: Several women recall 'unsettling' experiences with Graham Platner per New York Times - Deadline - MS NOW
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132173536


RockCreek

(1,529 posts)
2. Maine has ranked voting, including in this primary
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:56 PM
4 hrs ago

There are three people on the Dem primary ballot.
I believe voters can rank 3 candidates.
He can be ranked 3rd.

yankee87

(2,876 posts)
5. Enough
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:03 PM
4 hrs ago

Give it a rest. He's the Democratic candidate for Senator. If he's good enough for Bernie, he's good enough for me. We have the Epstein cabal ruining the entire government. I won't see whether the government is ever fixed because of my age. Stop screwing around as the shop teacher in South Park says.

niyad

(134,456 posts)
9. He is the PRESEPUMPTIVE nominee until the results are in from
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:28 PM
4 hrs ago

Last edited Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:22 PM - Edit history (1)

the June 9 primary.

mcar

(46,464 posts)
13. No.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:48 PM
3 hrs ago

He is a very flawed candidate - and man. We're supposed to ignore this:

But she said he regularly grabbed her by the shoulders — sometimes hard enough to leave marks — and, on one occasion, yanked her out of a cab by her wrist after an argument when she wanted to stay in the car.

During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held the door closed from the other side so she couldn’t get out, telling her to remain there until she was “calm.” Eventually, Ms. Fifield said, she fell asleep and left the next morning.

“It hurt,” she said. But she added: “It didn’t cause an injury, it didn’t break my arm.”


Why? Because Trump?

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
20. Stories of redemption and reform are woven into the fabric of our nation.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:55 PM
2 hrs ago

I was always wary of Platner because he never ran for anything else and was running for U.S. Senator. As such, he was never vetted in the way a candidate recruited to run would have been.

But we are where we are.

And he is the presumptive nominee. And will likely be the nominee.

You can choose.

Is his a story of redemption and reform from a life in which he got a nazi tatoo and dealt with anger issues and alcohol abuse -- something that is a quintessentially American story.

Or is he someone you are so sure has not *really* reformed that you would vote for Collins, and thereby vote to keep control of the Senate in the hands of the Trumpublicans?

Are you so sure he is unredeemably screwed up that you would rather ensure the most dangerous man ever to have occupied the WH continued to be unchecked by a Trumpublican Senate than see him voted into the Senate?

Because THAT is the choice.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,301 posts)
21. What is his redemption arc?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:07 PM
2 hrs ago
Is his a story of redemption and reform from a life in which he got a nazi tatoo and dealt with anger issues and alcohol abuse -- something that is a quintessentially American story.
lol WHAT

LisaL

(47,699 posts)
23. Yes, what exactly did he do for redemption?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:10 PM
2 hrs ago

Running for senate qualifies as redemption now?

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
25. Have you heard the man speak?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:15 PM
2 hrs ago

I'd call the personal transformation he describes "redemption."

YMMV.

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
33. Do you live in ME? If so, do you plan to vote for Collins (or not vote, a default vote for Collins).
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:29 PM
2 hrs ago

If you don't live in ME, how would you vote if you did?

If you won't (or wouldn't) vote for Platner, I pose the question again:

Are you so sure he is irredeemably screwed up that you would rather ensure the most dangerous man ever to have occupied the WH continued to be unchecked by a Trumpublican Senate than see him voted into the Senate?

LisaL

(47,699 posts)
35. Let's just say I am very glad I don't have to vote in ME.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:32 PM
2 hrs ago

Because I don't live there.

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
29. Talking about the "dark periods" of struggles with alcohol, anger, and PTSD in the past tense...
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:25 PM
2 hrs ago

...sounds to me like he has "come through the other side."

This argument aside, if you had to choose, would you vote for Platner or Collins?

Or would you not vote (a default vote for Collins).

LisaL

(47,699 posts)
31. So if he talks about it in a past tense, he doesn't have any of these issues anymore?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:28 PM
2 hrs ago

I didn't realize that's how it worked.

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
37. As I said an earlier post, YMMV
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:33 PM
2 hrs ago

Now I have a couple questions for you.

Do you live in ME?

If so, do you plan to vote for Collins (or not vote, a default vote for Collins).

If you don't live in ME, how would you vote if you did?

If you won't (or wouldn't) vote for Platner, I pose the question from an earlier post again:

Are you so sure he is irredeemably screwed up that you would rather ensure the most dangerous man ever to have occupied the WH continued to be unchecked by a Trumpublican Senate than see him voted into the Senate?

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,301 posts)
38. oh I thought maybe he had talked about how he recognized harm he had caused, had a moment where he realized he
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:36 PM
1 hr ago

needed to change, and then described the work he had done to make amends for the past and what he's doing for the future. I suppose people can expect different things when it comes to the concept of a transformation though

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
50. I have only seen a handful of appearances so can't speak to much except what I saw.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:08 PM
1 hr ago

And that was a person talking about a "dark time" or "dark period" that was presumably behind him.

Nixie

(18,174 posts)
30. It comes across as a bit unstable, imo. I've heard he's on 100%
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:28 PM
2 hrs ago

VA disability, so maybe it’s PTSD ? Why so unstable.

Disclaimer: we’re very supportive of veterans. Just curious about his details.

niyad

(134,456 posts)
39. According to the various bio bits, he is on disability for PTSD.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:40 PM
1 hr ago

One thing that pissed me off was hearing someone excuse his rape apologist posts as being a result of PTSD. In all my decades of counseling, and dealing with, PTSD vets, not one of them has ever said anything like that.

niyad

(134,456 posts)
36. Or good coaching? Good PR? Abusive people, and rape apologists,
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:32 PM
2 hrs ago

in general, seldom experience redemption.

YMMV

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
54. I've known a few people over the years who abused alcohol who engaged in despicable behavior while drunk.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:14 PM
1 hr ago

And over the years I've seen some of those people get sober. That kind of transformation is not all that rare.

niyad

(134,456 posts)
57. I said "abusive people", not people who abuse alcohol. And I notice
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:19 PM
1 hr ago

you did not mention the rape apologists.

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
59. I meant that people say and do things that are out of character when drinking.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:11 AM
25 min ago

I have no idea what his condition was a decade ago when he posted the despicable comments. I have no idea what Reddit rabbit holes he had been traveling down.

One thing I KNOW is that people can radically change their view of the world on almost any dimension. Just look at David Brock. Look at people who have left violent extremist groups or cults and are helping others break free. There are countless examples. I don't have any X-rape apologist persons in mind, but transformation is absolutely possible.

pat_k

(14,119 posts)
61. P.S.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:27 AM
8 min ago

Talking in generalities doesn't get far. What we have here is a person who is almost 100% guaranteed to be the Democratic nominee. And the choice of whether or not to support his candidacy.

Are you so sure he is so irredeemably screwed up that you would scuttle his candidacy and thereby vastly increase the possibility that the most dangerous man ever to have occupied the WH will continue to be unchecked by a Trumpublican Senate?

betsuni

(29,365 posts)
41. This is what an authentically "flawed candidate" is.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:44 PM
1 hr ago

Flawed candidate, flawed candidate, flawed candidate. I feel like repeating the words repeated over and over and over. Also, "baggage."

But guess who gets the benefit of the doubt! No mention of holding feet to the fire or earning one's vote or holding noses.

mcar

(46,464 posts)
14. So you're OK with this?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 08:49 PM
3 hrs ago
But she said he regularly grabbed her by the shoulders — sometimes hard enough to leave marks — and, on one occasion, yanked her out of a cab by her wrist after an argument when she wanted to stay in the car.

During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held the door closed from the other side so she couldn’t get out, telling her to remain there until she was “calm.” Eventually, Ms. Fifield said, she fell asleep and left the next morning.

“It hurt,” she said. But she added: “It didn’t cause an injury, it didn’t break my arm.”

ABC123Easy

(372 posts)
18. I'm totally not okay with it.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 09:15 PM
3 hrs ago

I know you weren't asking me but how can anyone be okay with this?

niyad

(134,456 posts)
44. Because women always lie?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:51 PM
1 hr ago

I know what my gut is telling me about a great many things in many areas these days. It has been known to be wrong on rare occasions, though.

niyad

(134,456 posts)
51. Do I understand then that the difference is these women are lying
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:09 PM
1 hr ago

for a group rather than just themselves?

Nanjeanne

(6,715 posts)
48. What are the terrible things the other women accused Platner of that he hasn't addressed? He has
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:02 PM
1 hr ago

acknowledged after three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan he had big anger issues and alcohol problems and had a sexist bravado that was very unbecoming. He’s spoken many times about that openly. So no,of course they aren’t lying about that dark period.

Nanjeanne

(6,715 posts)
43. And several don't. Read the whole article. Doesn't make any of them liars. People have said he and
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:51 PM
1 hr ago

Lyndsey had a volatile relationship but mutual friend did say the behavior Lyndsey described seemed out of character for Platner.

Wifes husband

(775 posts)
56. I am not ok with this
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 11:18 PM
1 hr ago

Democrats need have a higher standard than this. I don't want to lower my standards this low.

gulliver

(14,126 posts)
60. Sadly, neither party is going to get extreme hotshots
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 12:17 AM
18 min ago

As I've said many times, the very best people don't want to work for people who will turn on them, who hound them, who dox or threaten them. Amazing no one seems to get that. We all think we're in a buyer's market. No, we are not.

The people, I hate to say it, need to be accountable. Polite. Patriotic. Reasonable.

Passion is worthless.

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