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hookaleft

(1,229 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:05 PM 12 hrs ago

I have this theory. That Trump is not really in charge

There have been appointments to our agencies, institutions and billionaires behind the scenes that are truly the ones that are calling the shots. He didn't provide those names for his appointments, they were selected for him. And there are others that tell those appointments what to do. Trump is kept in a cocoon and his ego is constantly stroked by his cabinet and advisors to keep him thinking he is in control of everything that is going on. They let him rant on social media, attend to his beautification projects and make appearances where he makes up bullshit that is never confronted or fact checked. He is easily manipulated by people that are much smarter and more devious than him. Hard to imagine that someone is more evil than Trump. All you have to do is look at Stephen Miller and you will find one. I think the others are shrouded. They have to know that his mental faculties are in serious decline. And that is to their advantage. So they just baby walk him. Knowing that he will do whatever they "talk him into".

There are a whole bunch of people that are getting ridiculously rich. There are ideologues that are getting their polices and agendas implemented. The speed at which our democracy is being dismantled is mind-numbing. They did this damage in 17 months. They used the Project 25 handbook at breakneck speed. Like this was their only chance. If they did enough damage it couldn't be undone. And if they can fuck with the midterms they can complete their tasks.

I don't think that Trump is smart enough or capable enough to have done this himself and I don't think it was his idea. All he wanted to do was to be all powerful and the center of attention. He has many enablers.

I don't think it was just Bibi that talked him into this Iran adventure. There had to be others. What is their goal??

These are things I think about.

Most people on the street have no idea what perilous times we are in. Most people are not paying attention. Yeah they notice their gas prices, and grocery prices are sky-rocketing, but they don't realize the danger that our democracy is in. It is a five-alarm fire.

Who is gonna save us??

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I have this theory. That Trump is not really in charge (Original Post) hookaleft 12 hrs ago OP
Well GWB was pretty much a puppet. milestogo 12 hrs ago #1
Yes but his handlers did not dismantle the whole system of government wnylib 10 hrs ago #34
Dick Cheney's puppet. red dog 1 10 hrs ago #36
What you say makes sense MustLoveBeagles 12 hrs ago #2
I agree. Diamond_Dog 12 hrs ago #8
He's a kompromat pinata. Easy to whack OAITW r.2.0 12 hrs ago #3
Russ Vought dweller 12 hrs ago #4
Why are the heritage foundation and the federalist society hydrolastic 12 hrs ago #14
The Federalist Society has been changing our Constitution with each SCOTUS appointment.. summer_in_TX 10 hrs ago #33
Billionaires and corporations been writing Faux pas 12 hrs ago #5
We already know he's a chatbot. usonian 12 hrs ago #6
Bingo - Chump is being fed a script FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #21
I don't think Trump is literally being fed a script. wnylib 9 hrs ago #37
IMHO, the underage children were the deserts.... OAITW r.2.0 10 hrs ago #27
He's been really good at losing money in real estate. usonian 10 hrs ago #29
Agreed Dawson1008 12 hrs ago #7
Oh absolutely Raven123 12 hrs ago #9
Agree malaise 12 hrs ago #10
He is useful as a tool. cachukis 12 hrs ago #13
He's a puppet for the ruling class. GoodRaisin 10 hrs ago #28
Miller SuzyandPuffpuff 12 hrs ago #11
Agreed. cachukis 12 hrs ago #12
100% mahina 12 hrs ago #15
I wish I could say you're wrong, PatSeg 12 hrs ago #16
I agree. xuplate 11 hrs ago #17
An oligopoly funding think tanks. Running mainstream media. Festivito 11 hrs ago #18
I don't think he's even capable of changing his own soiled diapers ToxMarz 11 hrs ago #19
the only point where I might disagre - (and still possibly outweighed by points of agreement) stopdiggin 11 hrs ago #20
I've been saying this for a long time Puppyjive 11 hrs ago #22
If Trump isn't really in charge,... LudwigPastorius 10 hrs ago #23
It seems like this should be obvious to anyone who pays attention. CaptainTruth 10 hrs ago #24
Who's making him take all these cognitive tests? MerryBlooms 10 hrs ago #25
Stephen Miller is the one in charge Blue Full Moon 10 hrs ago #26
+1 red dog 1 10 hrs ago #32
K&R red dog 1 10 hrs ago #30
Peter Thiel and the billionaires selected Vance AdamGG 10 hrs ago #31
Actually I think that is how it is Figarosmom 10 hrs ago #35
Add in Putin, Xi, and Netenyahu... returnee 2 hrs ago #38

MustLoveBeagles

(18,251 posts)
2. What you say makes sense
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:11 PM
12 hrs ago

I don't think dump is smart enough to implement all this on his own. He's had a lot of help.

dweller

(28,896 posts)
4. Russ Vought
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:13 PM
12 hrs ago

Heritage Foundation

Both need to be eliminated from our government , and prosecuted .


smh




✌🏻

hydrolastic

(551 posts)
14. Why are the heritage foundation and the federalist society
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:43 PM
12 hrs ago

Even in the government anyways? I mean to say that as a question as to why are they there ? what purpose are they fulfilling? why is it that democrats don't have an equivalent? why do they have such control of the right and the laws of the land ? At some point we need to take a very close hard look at these groups and the benefit to the government they provide.If any.

summer_in_TX

(4,356 posts)
33. The Federalist Society has been changing our Constitution with each SCOTUS appointment..
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:47 PM
10 hrs ago

The rulings have been done with an agenda. If you look at the debates at the time of the ratification of the Constitution and the first ten Amendments to it, as well as the Federalist Papers, Federalist Society judges at all levels, especially at the Appeals Courts and SCOTUS, have made rulings inconsistent with the clear meaning of our founding documents and history. Yet they wrap decisions in this fiction of originalism. Those who aren't historians might easily take that at face value.

When we get through this, we should ban any appointments to any position as a judge for anyone who is a member of the Federalist Society on the basis of treasonous manipulation of the judiciary in unconstitutional ways.

If they can't use it as a springboard for their career, it will become very weak. Sure, some will continue to believe and advocate for the positions of the Federalist Society. It's their right under the 1st Amendment. But it would become a paper tiger.

Faux pas

(16,591 posts)
5. Billionaires and corporations been writing
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:13 PM
12 hrs ago

the "laws" FOR the rethugs that the assholes have voted on for decades

usonian

(27,082 posts)
6. We already know he's a chatbot.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:16 PM
12 hrs ago

But which one? Programmed by whom?
I am guessing Putin or Bibi, whoever has the REAL kiddie sex videos and is using them to control him.



Whoever releases the videos will doom him. But he's still too useful to them.

Until he isn't.

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/04/29/the-hallucinating-chatgpt-presidency/

Judge for yourself.

Tue, Apr 29th 2025 09:34am - Mike Masnick

We generally understand how LLM hallucinations work. An AI model tries to generate what seems like a plausible response to whatever you ask it, drawing on its training data to construct something that sounds right. The actual truth of the response is, at best, a secondary consideration.

snip

But over the last few months, it has occurred to me that, for all the hype about generative AI systems “hallucinating,” we pay much less attention to the fact that the current President does the same thing, nearly every day. The more you look at the way Donald Trump spews utter nonsense answers to questions, the more you begin to recognize a clear pattern — he answers questions in a manner quite similar to early versions of ChatGPT. The facts don’t matter, the language choices are a mess, but they are all designed to present a plausible-sounding answer to the question, based on no actual knowledge, nor any concern for whether or not the underlying facts are accurate.

snip

This is not the response of someone working from actual knowledge or policy understanding. Instead, it’s precisely how an LLM operates: taking a prompt (the question about job losses) and generating text based on some core parameters (the “system prompt” that requires deflecting blame and asserting greatness).

The hallmarks of AI generation are all here:
• Confident assertions without factual backing
• Meandering diversions that maintain loose semantic connection to the topic
• Pattern-matching to previous responses (“ripped off,” “billions of dollars”)
• Optimization for what sounds good rather than what’s true

FakeNoose

(42,954 posts)
21. Bingo - Chump is being fed a script
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:43 PM
11 hrs ago

I think he wears an earpiece that is secretly feeding him the script ... maybe from Stephen Miller or I-don't-know-who. Twenty years ago I would have said Rupert Murdoch, but it's clearly not him. It's somebody younger and craftier who monitors everything he does.

Sometimes the earpiece goes wacky and stops working ... that's when Chump gets really crazy and incoherent. We've all seen him do it, but there's never an explanation forthcoming. You notice how he always tilts his head when he's speaking in front of a camera or to an audience? I think that's a tell that he's wearing the earpiece, because ambient noise is still a problem. I wish somebody would just jam the signal and block out his receiver.

wnylib

(26,788 posts)
37. I don't think Trump is literally being fed a script.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:03 AM
9 hrs ago

The way he talks is part of a con man's spiel. Think of Oz in the Wizard of Oz. Wild West snake oil salesmen of the past used the same gobbledygook language. He has always spoken like a con man because that's all he has ever been.

Trump's only talent is showmanship. He has used it in politics to gain power and money. It's how he has operated all his life. He is like a hollowed out shell of a human being, nothing but a hologram.

The OP has nailed what is going in with him. Nothing so specific as feeding him info on a mic. He would never follow directions like that. They are subtler than that with him. Handlers deal with real issues. Trump is just a senile shell now, being allowed to think that he is in charge.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,949 posts)
27. IMHO, the underage children were the deserts....
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:24 PM
10 hrs ago

After the business of extricating Russian wealth out of the country thru Epstein to commercial RE guys like Donald Trump. 90's Trump busted everywhere until he hooked up with the Russian Oligarchy through his buddy Jeff.

usonian

(27,082 posts)
29. He's been really good at losing money in real estate.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:39 PM
10 hrs ago

The mark of a money launderer.

Not to mention the "fixer upper" he, slumlord, is leaving behind.

Raven123

(8,026 posts)
9. Oh absolutely
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:21 PM
12 hrs ago

Let him play with ballrooms, arches, pools. Stroke his ego with parades and WH lawn spectacles. Plaster his name on everything. Trump is shallow. Doesn’t take much, especially as his dementia progresses.

GoodRaisin

(11,181 posts)
28. He's a puppet for the ruling class.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:38 PM
10 hrs ago

They have used him for his stupidity and are perfectly happy to let him think he’s “Attilla the Hun”.

SuzyandPuffpuff

(772 posts)
11. Miller
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:35 PM
12 hrs ago

Miller is behind a lot of this. Too obvious. 47 can't string a cohesive thought together to save his shit filled diaper

cachukis

(4,176 posts)
12. Agreed.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:39 PM
12 hrs ago

Every political system is managed with money and its accompanying power in mind.
Clearly, trump is a tool.
The political leaders who stood on an altruistic pedestal rarely attained political power for any length of time.
Power is built by corruption taking advantage of the uncorrupt.
Jesus would not stand a chance today. How he got to be so important is a frank display of how corruption works.
In spite of the warming stories of humanitarian efforts, tough guy movies capture the box office revenues.
Trump is playing the big dog role and loving it. He is feeling his oats. He is merely another tool.

PatSeg

(53,969 posts)
16. I wish I could say you're wrong,
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 09:55 PM
12 hrs ago

but the evidence is overwhelming. Trump has all his silly pet projects like the reflecting pool and the Arch, but I don't see him having the time, energy, or focus for the big stuff.

He's had voices talking in his ear for quite some time, people who could help keep him out of jail and enrich him at the same time. People with the means and money to get him reelected. Of course, such people would also have the resources to bring him down.

He seems so disconnected and disinterested much of the time. I don't think he has a clue what is going on.

xuplate

(257 posts)
17. I agree.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:07 PM
11 hrs ago

He is too ignorant to even know of the existence of the things he has destroyed. Lots of self interested vultures, each with their own agenda, using him as a frontman and nothing he loves more than causing chaos.

Festivito

(13,950 posts)
18. An oligopoly funding think tanks. Running mainstream media.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:17 PM
11 hrs ago

Even n p r dutifully reported that trump would have to drain the reflecting pool. And five people have been arrested for destruction of public property.

No notion that the arrests were questionable. They know how it sounds.

The media is in on it. They don't want to make the same mistake they made.When they tried the coup against roosevelt.

stopdiggin

(15,822 posts)
20. the only point where I might disagre - (and still possibly outweighed by points of agreement)
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:34 PM
11 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Is that I think if I were looking for a malleable 'puppet figure' to do the bidding(s) of the 'hand behind the throne'.
I think I would be disinclined to chose a proven bungler and bumbler. A man noted for crashing into a room and leaving a trail of tears, destruction and disbelief - (along with an odor of feces and decay) - and this among friends, allies and supporters! A man whose office and administration is notoriously (and repeatedly) discharging weaponry into their foot ... And thereby sabotaging whatever agenda might have been in play. A man whom is completely predictable in offering gratuitous insult - for no discernible reason at all - to the Italian premier, at an international forum showcasing first world government and diplomacy ...

Somehow ... I just do not see this as my 'chosen vessel' ....

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Puppyjive

(1,018 posts)
22. I've been saying this for a long time
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 10:47 PM
11 hrs ago

Trump is too stupid to come up with some of the cuts that are happening to our federal government. Someone in his administration has a bone to pick with the federal government and Trump is complying with their suggestions. I think some of them are Russian plants.

LudwigPastorius

(15,237 posts)
23. If Trump isn't really in charge,...
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:00 PM
10 hrs ago

whoever is in charge also has the ability to turn things to shit with their touch. Seriously though, they can't be an evil, manipulative genius and a laughably incompetent boob.

Occam's Razor says this clusterfuck is Trump's doing (with minor assists from the sycophantic cultists he installed).

CaptainTruth

(8,297 posts)
24. It seems like this should be obvious to anyone who pays attention.
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:05 PM
10 hrs ago

I've concluded the vast majority of people don't pay attention.

MerryBlooms

(12,563 posts)
25. Who's making him take all these cognitive tests?
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:19 PM
10 hrs ago

trump's like a big dog in the back of the SUV with the windows down, excited to go on a ride
Doesn't realize he's going to the vet... Want to go to the park, big boy?
Neutered? I thought you said Tutored!
Just put a safety cone around trump's neck... Make sure it's tight.🙄

red dog 1

(33,714 posts)
30. K&R
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:42 PM
10 hrs ago

Who's gonna' save us?
The American voters on November 3rd.
(If the midterm elections aren't stolen by the GOP)

Figarosmom

(14,585 posts)
35. Actually I think that is how it is
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:48 PM
10 hrs ago

With EVERY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT in modern times. Reagan, the Bush's and trump. Probably Nixon and Ford too.

returnee

(1,005 posts)
38. Add in Putin, Xi, and Netenyahu...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 07:24 AM
2 hrs ago

…and all the corporatists and you have the full picture. Oh, and the complicit media.

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