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lostincalifornia

(5,727 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 07:48 PM 11 hrs ago

I have seen multiple posts about cutting of AID to Israel. This was done a month ago by another rethug from Indiana.

Last edited Tue Jul 14, 2026, 08:26 PM - Edit history (2)

No one should be fooled by what they are doing. They want to divide the Democrats so some won't come out and vote in the midterms, or vote third party.

Make no mistake Massie is doing this obviously because he is opposed to ANY foreign aid to any country. Just look at his voting record, and also using it as revenge against trump. Even without Israel involved, Massie is an antisemite:

https://jewishinsider.com/2026/05/thomas-massie-ed-gallrein-kentucky-house-primary-israel-jewish-groups/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/31/republican-thomas-massie-voltaire-quote-neo-nazi

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/columnists/gerth/2021/08/27/thomas-massie-wrong-compare-covid-19-holocaust-nazism/5605030001/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=false&gca-epti=z1144xxe1144xxv000087&gca-ft=112&gca-ds=sophi

It is bullshit. The only purpose for this is for the rethugs to take control of the House in the midterms because THEY KNOW THEY ARE VULNERABLE.

Not only is it a badly written bill, but the rethugs know it will pass the House because they have the majority, and they are playing the Democrats against each other, hoping to suppress the turnout for Democrats in the midterms.

The only way the rethugs can be stopped is to vote DEMOCRATIC in the midterms. We need to win at least one House.

It was the same game that was played in 2024, and anyone who thinks that not voting for Harris was a good thing for the Israeli/Palestinian issue is only deluding themselves.

We are in the minority right now because of that foolishness. Let's make sure we aren't fooling by the rethugs devious game.



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I have seen multiple posts about cutting of AID to Israel. This was done a month ago by another rethug from Indiana. (Original Post) lostincalifornia 11 hrs ago OP
You are absolutely correct. sheshe2 11 hrs ago #1
Democrats can't rely on our lazy expectations. LuvLoogie 11 hrs ago #2
There is no "aid" to Israel Prairie Gates 10 hrs ago #3
You know, it's fascinating. CrimsonBight 10 hrs ago #4
I said this in another thread: Initech 10 hrs ago #5
Thanks lostincalifornia 10 hrs ago #6
Mentioning Israel gets a Pavlovian reaction sarisataka 10 hrs ago #7
Thanks lostincalifornia 10 hrs ago #8
Why would it divide Democrats if it passes? Eko 9 hrs ago #10
I understand there is a difference between ideal and reality sarisataka 8 hrs ago #14
Didn't answer the question. Eko 6 hrs ago #16
I did sarisataka 6 hrs ago #17
Say what? Eko 10 hrs ago #9
Plenty of Democrats will vote for it. More Democrats than Republicans- that's for sure. David__77 9 hrs ago #11
Where to begin to count the ways this post is... interesting. AloeVera 9 hrs ago #12
"80-90% of the Democratic BASE SUPPORTS cutting funding to Israel. If leadership and Democratic representatives are out Eko 9 hrs ago #13
Working people up emotionally to make Israel a single issue to not vote for Democrats, like abortion. betsuni 8 hrs ago #15
I, for one, am getting a bit fucking tired off hearing about Israel. W_HAMILTON 4 hrs ago #18

LuvLoogie

(9,106 posts)
2. Democrats can't rely on our lazy expectations.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 08:32 PM
11 hrs ago

This continent had vast forests and a thriving indigenous people of many nations until it didn't.

At some point Justice takes a stand or we let the planet melt and burn. The people at the margins keep getting thrown under the gilded bus.

They're done.

Prairie Gates

(8,807 posts)
3. There is no "aid" to Israel
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 08:40 PM
10 hrs ago

There is our tax dollars being funneled into genocide and vicious death squads with complete legal impunity.

CrimsonBight

(29 posts)
4. You know, it's fascinating.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 09:00 PM
10 hrs ago

We have a lot of smoke for people who wouldn't vote for candidates who refused to oppose a genocide, and no smoke whatsoever for those who wouldn't vote for candidates who did.

Why is that?

Initech

(109,836 posts)
5. I said this in another thread:
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 09:01 PM
10 hrs ago

You can't stop authoritarianism with MSNOW slop content or strongly worded letters. We are dealing with some incredibly evil and deranged psychopaths.

Putin, Trump, and Netanyahu are the new Axis Of Evil. They and their enablers can and must be rooted out and dealt with the same way we've dealt with terrorists before.

sarisataka

(23,332 posts)
7. Mentioning Israel gets a Pavlovian reaction
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 09:12 PM
10 hrs ago

People don’t even know what the amendment is.

AMENDMENT TO H.R. 8595, AS REPORTED
OFFERED BY MR. MASSIE OF KENTUCKY
At the end of the bill (before the short title), insert the following:
“SEC. __. No funds for Israel.
(a) None of the funds made available under this Act shall be obligated or
expended for Israel.
(b) The amount otherwise made available by this Act for “Foreign Military
Financing Program” is hereby reduced by $3,300,000,000.”


HR 8595 is far more expansive than military aid.

It is a win/win for Massie, if it fails it will divide Democrats, if it passes it reduces US foreign aid and divide Democrats

Eko

(10,282 posts)
10. Why would it divide Democrats if it passes?
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 10:10 PM
9 hrs ago

Shouldn't those people just vote blue no matter who?

sarisataka

(23,332 posts)
14. I understand there is a difference between ideal and reality
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 10:58 PM
8 hrs ago

I also remember in 2024 there were literally millions who chose to not vote blue no matter who- and they were supported on DU

sarisataka

(23,332 posts)
17. I did
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 12:39 AM
6 hrs ago

The ideal is Democrats and their supporters should vote for the Democratic candidate

The reality is, as my example, that doesn’t always happen.

Eko

(10,282 posts)
9. Say what?
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 09:31 PM
10 hrs ago
"They want to divide the Democrats so some won't come out and vote in the midterms, or vote third party."

If it passed then who exactly wouldn't come out? Would that be the people that support aid to Israel, the ones that even now blame the anti Israel voters for the loss in the last presidential election? What about vote blue no matter who?
"The only way the rethugs can be stopped is to vote DEMOCRATIC in the midterms."

What does this bill have to do with voting Democratic in the midterms? Are you saying that some Democrats wont vote for Democrats if the bill passes? Which ones? Do you think that it would be right for them to do so?
"hoping to suppress the turnout for Democrats in the midterms."

Once again, who would it keep from turning out?
As wrong as I thought Harris and the Democratic party was on Gaza I voted blue. I have to say this post is interesting. Interesting indeed.


David__77

(24,939 posts)
11. Plenty of Democrats will vote for it. More Democrats than Republicans- that's for sure.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 10:14 PM
9 hrs ago

As for Massie - he is no Lindsay Graham.

AloeVera

(4,804 posts)
12. Where to begin to count the ways this post is... interesting.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 10:20 PM
9 hrs ago

Describing the lone-voice of defeated Trump-hater and Maga-pariah Massie as "Republicans", for starters.

Believing that the GQP would EVER vote to cut funding to Israel. Lol.

Labelling Massie an anti-semite is interesting too. I have no clue if he is or not, have seen no evidence, and of course his criticism of Israel is not a sign of anti-semitism.

But most interesting is the apparent assumption that Democrats would not support a bill cutting funding to Israel AND that that is a popular position among Democratic voters. It's the only explanation for your statement that the bill would "suppress Democratic turnout".

Which in itself is interesting because 80-90% of the Democratic BASE SUPPORTS cutting funding to Israel. If leadership and Democratic representatives are out of step with the voters - as they were in 2024 on this issue - disaster is sure to follow. ONCE AGAIN.

But do carry on.

Eko

(10,282 posts)
13. "80-90% of the Democratic BASE SUPPORTS cutting funding to Israel. If leadership and Democratic representatives are out
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 10:30 PM
9 hrs ago

of step with the voters - as they were in 2024 on this issue - disaster is sure to follow. ONCE AGAIN."
Couldn't have said it better!

betsuni

(29,546 posts)
15. Working people up emotionally to make Israel a single issue to not vote for Democrats, like abortion.
Tue Jul 14, 2026, 11:18 PM
8 hrs ago

Making Democrats seem immoral, evil. Genocide, warmongers, old rich corrupt, PAC PAC PAC AIPAC.

W_HAMILTON

(10,531 posts)
18. I, for one, am getting a bit fucking tired off hearing about Israel.
Wed Jul 15, 2026, 02:41 AM
4 hrs ago

These are American elections and we have Americans suffering everyday under this administration -- some even being killed.

I don't know what the answer to the Israel/Gaza situation is, but it sure as hell doesn't involve Republicans getting elected.

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