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BumRushDaShow

(151,383 posts)
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:02 AM Yesterday

Trump admin brainstorms aggressive tactics to clear homeless camps in cities and forcibly hospitalize people, report

Source: The Independent

Saturday 26 April 2025 21:14 BST


Officials from the Justice Department who manage grant distributions are brainstorming ways to clear homeless encampments and increase the involuntary hospitalization of individuals with mental illnesses, according to an email obtained by The Washington Post. This represents the latest indication that the Trump administration is following through on commitments to aggressively remove homeless people from public spaces, as President Donald Trump spoke of during the 2024 campaign.

Just last month, the president issued an executive order aimed at making the District of Columbia “safe and beautiful,” which instructed the National Park Service to remove all homeless encampments from federal land in the capital. In the past, he has spoken of housing the homeless in tent cities on inexpensive land on the outskirts of cities and jailing those who refuse “treatment.”

The email was sent on Thursday evening to employees in the Office of Justice Programs and included eight questions asking for input on how best to direct resources to issues concerning homelessness and mental illness. Recipients have until Wednesday to submit their responses.

“What can DOJ do to more efficiently shift chronic vagrants away from the public square and into a more concentrated space so that order can be restored and resources and services can be deployed more effectively?” one of the questions read. The email stated that the White House had directed the department and other agencies to provide legislative, funding, and other solutions for issues related to homelessness, mental health, and more.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-clear-homeless-encampments-mental-illness-b2740126.html



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Trump admin brainstorms aggressive tactics to clear homeless camps in cities and forcibly hospitalize people, report (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Yesterday OP
So ... let's 'concentrate' all of them into, you know ... AZJonnie Yesterday #1
... BumRushDaShow Yesterday #2
In Nazi Germany, the first killed were the old, mentally & physically disabled... NotHardly Yesterday #13
And the homosexuals. Dixiegrrrl Yesterday #24
Stunning krkaufman Yesterday #19
It most certainly does, and it is absolutely sickening AZJonnie Yesterday #21
There are only facilities and staff for a fraction of moniss Yesterday #3
Exactly! Wuddles440 Yesterday #6
Maybe one day they will create places to live instead of having to play clean up constantly and stuff? Brainfodder Yesterday #4
No simple fix Blackjackdavey Yesterday #5
I think that would be fascist in its own way. NH Ethylene Yesterday #28
like the clearing out of the bonus marchers during hoovers admin... Javaman Yesterday #7
Just more horseshit and gunsmoke, fear mongering IMO. Magoo48 Yesterday #22
My aren't you the charmer. Javaman Yesterday #25
And they're gonna pay for this, how? ananda Yesterday #8
There are already very few TDO beds already. underpants 23 hrs ago #33
You sound like you understand the issue. ananda 22 hrs ago #34
"Vagrants" "animals" "poisoning the blood of our nation" "not human" EarthFirst Yesterday #9
"so that order can be restored" Nigrum Cattus Yesterday #10
"involuntary hospitalization? "mental illnesses?" Grins Yesterday #11
I can think of one individual to start with. Individual 1. n/t the nelm Yesterday #14
History Iamscrewed Yesterday #12
How about making the economy more equitable? not fooled Yesterday #15
If he stops birthright citizenship... Mawspam2 Yesterday #16
What can we do? maxrandb Yesterday #17
The "Nut House"... BurnDoubt Yesterday #18
This is an extremely complex issue, and ... BurnDoubt Yesterday #20
I lived near a State Mental Hospital in southern Calif during Reagan years. Had friends studying to be care providers Attilatheblond Yesterday #30
Reagan having closed down the "asylums" starting when he was governor, where the hell will they be housed? Hekate Yesterday #23
El Salvador, is my guess. LisaL Yesterday #29
They will tell us what to read, what to think, how to behave bucolic_frolic Yesterday #26
My guess is we end up with something like giving tratment and hospitalization to people who need it SSJVegeta Yesterday #27
Since when is this a federal issue? VMA131Marine Yesterday #31
From the OP BumRushDaShow Yesterday #32
"(or were an uncooperative wife, for that matter).".... electric_blue68 2 hrs ago #35
There are (but not enough) Mental Health Housing Programs... electric_blue68 1 hr ago #36

AZJonnie

(765 posts)
1. So ... let's 'concentrate' all of them into, you know ...
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:21 AM
Yesterday

someplace with a bunch of tents? An 'encampment', if you will!

What's that? Oh, sure the fake news media will call it that, but it's not that at ALL! In fact, we also plan to provide them with work!

NotHardly

(2,076 posts)
13. In Nazi Germany, the first killed were the old, mentally & physically disabled...
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

History may not repeat itself but it frequently sings.

krkaufman

(13,851 posts)
19. Stunning
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:54 PM
Yesterday
into a more concentrated space

It seems intentional that they used the word.

AZJonnie

(765 posts)
21. It most certainly does, and it is absolutely sickening
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:56 PM
Yesterday

And the MAGAt's keep cheering 'it's what we voted for!' like a bunch of fucking fiends.

Wuddles440

(1,682 posts)
6. Exactly!
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:38 AM
Yesterday

Healthcare resources are already at or near the breaking point in most areas.

Brainfodder

(7,199 posts)
4. Maybe one day they will create places to live instead of having to play clean up constantly and stuff?
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 08:36 AM
Yesterday

If only there were organizations that built human habitats.

IF ONLY....



IF ONLY there were a way to manufacturer homes at a reasonable cost.

IF ONLY....

Blackjackdavey

(207 posts)
5. No simple fix
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 09:15 AM
Yesterday

Hospitals aren't really part of it. Building more houses isn't really part of it. There are certainly individuals whose situation would change with each of those but as a group, unhoused folks would not be appreciably impacted by those things alone. One thing that would have a major impact, would likely never happen, would be banning and holding liable families who persecute and make their homes inhospitable to lgbtqia, neurodivetgent or mentally ill offspring.

NH Ethylene

(31,107 posts)
28. I think that would be fascist in its own way.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:20 PM
Yesterday

If their children are adults they are under no obligation to continue to house them - no matter what the reason is. And that is as it should be.

If they are under age there are already laws that exist that require them to take care of them.

Javaman

(63,684 posts)
7. like the clearing out of the bonus marchers during hoovers admin...
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 10:39 AM
Yesterday

they killed a couple of those folks.

just waiting for when, not if, now

ananda

(31,567 posts)
8. And they're gonna pay for this, how?
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:08 AM
Yesterday

Or maybe they will force hospitals to incarcerate people
at their own expense (right)...

... or else find disused, derelicl buildings and just call
them hospitals (right).

underpants

(190,154 posts)
33. There are already very few TDO beds already.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 08:51 PM
23 hrs ago

Temporary Detaining Order

20 years ago I worked at a CSB. One small hospital got bought up by an expanding college. This city 2-4 TDO beds out. The crisis team said just those fewer beds changed everything.

Getting back to paying, are they going to PAY for more TDO beds? Those beds have to be available. Hospitals can’t use them for anything else. I’m guessing there’s payment of some sort to keep them available but I’d also guess occupied vs unoccupied are two different daily/hourly rates.

EarthFirst

(3,630 posts)
9. "Vagrants" "animals" "poisoning the blood of our nation" "not human"
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 11:31 AM
Yesterday

…looking for “solutions” to “concentrate” those deemed “less than desirable”

What in the fu*king fu*k!

I don’t even recognize this place anymore…

not fooled

(6,245 posts)
15. How about making the economy more equitable?
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 02:10 PM
Yesterday

Naw, can't do that...doesn't serve the interests of the billionaire class.

They are choosing to handle increasing inequality with increasing force.

Mawspam2

(931 posts)
16. If he stops birthright citizenship...
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 02:21 PM
Yesterday

...just gather them all up and drop them on Haiti. No longer our problem.

maxrandb

(16,528 posts)
17. What can we do?
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:14 PM
Yesterday

Ahem.....TAX THE FUCKING RICH AND USE THOSE FUNDS TO HELP THE HOMELESS PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!

BurnDoubt

(278 posts)
18. The "Nut House"...
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:48 PM
Yesterday

Remembering my childhood in central California. when passing through Napa, Ca. on our way to the Coast, they would point out the "Nut House", or hospital where patients would be sent if they had issues preventing them from being self-sufficient and homeless (or were an uncooperative wife, for that matter). Governor Ronald Reagan's signature accomplishment was to end those programs, for better or worse. Since then, homelessness has grown and become more of an issue. Hardly any resources are devoted to this, beyond volunteers handing out bread in soup lines. Presumably now we'll begin shipping them off to be housed by those who can sleep at night because they are unencumbered by inklings of Humanity. They're already on speed-dial. And we won't be forced to look at them. Fixed It!!!!!

BurnDoubt

(278 posts)
20. This is an extremely complex issue, and ...
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 04:55 PM
Yesterday

much, much more attention needs to be brought to bear. This is a Tragedy, and the answers are nowhere evident in our discourse. This needs to be a "Red Ball" issue, all hands on deck.

Attilatheblond

(5,708 posts)
30. I lived near a State Mental Hospital in southern Calif during Reagan years. Had friends studying to be care providers
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:30 PM
Yesterday

They lived 'on campus'. They, and the residents of the hospital were dumped on the streets so Reagan could say he saved some dollars.

Hekate

(97,376 posts)
23. Reagan having closed down the "asylums" starting when he was governor, where the hell will they be housed?
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:13 PM
Yesterday

One of those abominable private prisons? Tent city? Concentration camp?

El Salvador?

LisaL

(47,186 posts)
29. El Salvador, is my guess.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:25 PM
Yesterday

Trump already said president of El Salvador needs to build more prisons.

bucolic_frolic

(50,014 posts)
26. They will tell us what to read, what to think, how to behave
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:12 PM
Yesterday

who we can sleep with, and "forcibly hospitalize" people who don't knuckle under.

Freedumb, y'all.

SSJVegeta

(433 posts)
27. My guess is we end up with something like giving tratment and hospitalization to people who need it
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:18 PM
Yesterday

or closer to sending them to El Salvador or some other concentration camp. My fear is they are leaning towards the latter.

VMA131Marine

(4,960 posts)
31. Since when is this a federal issue?
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 07:48 PM
Yesterday

The Federal Government has no jurisdiction over homelessness in cities … except maybe DC.

BumRushDaShow

(151,383 posts)
32. From the OP
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 08:14 PM
Yesterday
executive order aimed at making the District of Columbia “safe and beautiful,” which instructed the National Park Service to remove all homeless encampments from federal land in the capital.




That's who they are talking about while Congress intentionally "forgot" to give the city a requested $1billion of funding with the last C.R. Then the Senate did a standalone for the money that they passed unanimously and sent over to the House, where the House promptly ignored it, and went on their break.

electric_blue68

(21,092 posts)
35. "(or were an uncooperative wife, for that matter)."....
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:28 PM
2 hrs ago

Was I hortified When I found out about that practice!
Truly vile sexism!

electric_blue68

(21,092 posts)
36. There are (but not enough) Mental Health Housing Programs...
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:46 PM
1 hr ago

sometimes a whole dedicated building with in-house services.

Also then levels 1 & 2.
Lvl 2.... I think visits ?3 times/wk with the MHH worker (whether a social worker, or other) of the program. Sometimes go to the office. Usually roomates.The program pays for certain bills. Rent is ?1/3 of SSD or SSI payment. Given some money monthly.

Lvl 1... 1x/month visit. Sonetimes office visit. Single person apt, sometimes a bigger apt (obviously) if roomates. Client pays expenses so given 2/3rds of the SSD/SSI payment, or maaaybe whole amount, and then pays rent to the program.

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