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BumRushDaShow

(155,003 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:22 AM 11 hrs ago

'Biden didn't start any wars': Democrats sharpen their arguments against Trump's foreign policy

Source: NBC News

June 23, 2025, 5:00 AM EDT


WASHINGTON — Democrats are seizing on Donald Trump’s surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities to make the case that the world is becoming more dangerous on his watch, not less, and that he is reneging on a promise to avoid foreign military interventions.

The argument strikes at Trump’s contention that his blend of negotiating skills and toughness is enough to keep the United States safe. In the space of a few days, Trump has made the United States a combatant in another Middle East war that exposes soldiers to potential deadly reprisals, Democrats contend.

In a statement, Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin pointed to Trump's inaugural address, in which he said he would measure his success by “the wars we never get into.”

Yet, Martin said, “against his own words, the president sent bombers into Iran. Americans overwhelmingly do not want to go to war. Americans do not want to risk the safety of our troops abroad.” The White House did not respond to a request for comment.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/democrats-arguments-trump-foreign-policy-iran-rcna214382

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'Biden didn't start any wars': Democrats sharpen their arguments against Trump's foreign policy (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 11 hrs ago OP
Not only didn't start wars Marthe48 11 hrs ago #1
Has Biden violated the US Constitution by bombing Yemen? Mosby 11 hrs ago #2
No. As commander-in-chief he ordered a "military response to Houthi attacks" that threatened an ally and ancianita 11 hrs ago #3
The Houthis were attacking U.S. (and other) ships in the Red Sea BumRushDaShow 11 hrs ago #4
We are in this mess because of Trump! He canceled the JCPOA because he's a POS! OrlandoDem2 11 hrs ago #5
Post removed Post removed 10 hrs ago #6
Trump 2016. He'll never get elected and if he does it won't be that bad. twodogsbarking 9 hrs ago #7

Marthe48

(20,918 posts)
1. Not only didn't start wars
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:30 AM
11 hrs ago

He negotiated to prevent wars from starting. Thank God for Pres. Biden and the people he chose as diplomats and representatives who made the best interests of the U.S. and its people their top priority in strengthening alliances and promoting peaceful relations in the world.

Mosby

(18,703 posts)
2. Has Biden violated the US Constitution by bombing Yemen?
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:33 AM
11 hrs ago

The United States launched military attacks on sites operated by the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen on Thursday, targeting its military infrastructure.

The US Air Force said in a statement that it had “executed deliberate strikes on over 60 targets at 16 Iranian-backed Houthi militant locations, including command and control nodes, munitions depots, launching systems, production facilities, and air defense radar systems”.

US President Joe Biden said the joint strikes with the United Kingdom were meant to demonstrate that the US and its allies “will not tolerate” the Houthis’ attacks on shipping in the Red Sea. The US raids, supported by Canada, Australia, Bahrain and the Netherlands, marked the first major US military response to Houthi attacks on shipping bound for Israel or owned by companies with any affiliations with Israel.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/12/did-biden-violate-the-us-constitution-in-bombing-yemens-houthi-sites

ancianita

(40,732 posts)
3. No. As commander-in-chief he ordered a "military response to Houthi attacks" that threatened an ally and
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:46 AM
11 hrs ago

western economic entities; the bombing of Yemen Houthis was on their military systems, a bombing supported by Canada, Australia, Bahrain and the Netherlands. Biden did not violate the Constitution.

BumRushDaShow

(155,003 posts)
4. The Houthis were attacking U.S. (and other) ships in the Red Sea
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 10:47 AM
11 hrs ago
US forces strike Houthi sites in Yemen as Biden says allied action hasn’t yet stopped ship attacks

But those military actions were done against the Houthi perps, NOT Iran because Iran didn't directly attack the U.S.

This time, you have a direct attack ON Iran.

When those bunker busters were first tested under Obama, Obama made a comment that their use would probably do nothing to deter Iran.

From my comment in this OP - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143483610

U.S. stockpiles powerful bunker-buster bombs in case Iran nuclear talks fail


By W.J. Hennigan
July 3, 2015 3:31 PM PT

Reporting from WASHINGTON — As diplomats rush to reach an agreement to curb Iran’s nuclear program, the U.S. military is stockpiling conventional bombs so powerful that strategists say they could cripple Tehran’s most heavily fortified nuclear complexes, including one deep underground.

The bunker-busting bombs are America’s most destructive munitions short of atomic weapons. At 15 tons, each is 5 tons heavier than any other bomb in the U.S. arsenal. In development for more than a decade, the latest iteration of the MOP — massive ordnance penetrator — was successfully tested on a deeply buried target this year at the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. The test followed upgrades to the bomb’s guidance system and electronics to stop jammers from sending it off course.

U.S. officials say the huge bombs, which have never been used in combat, are a crucial element in the White House deterrent strategy and contingency planning should diplomacy go awry and Iran seek to develop a nuclear bomb.

Obama has made it clear that he has no desire to order an attack, warning that U.S. airstrikes on Iran’s air defense network and nuclear facilities would spark a destabilizing new war in the Middle East, and would only delay Iran by several years should it choose to build a bomb. “A military solution will not fix it,” Obama told Israeli TV on June 1. An attack “would temporarily slow down an Iranian nuclear program, but it will not eliminate it.”

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Obama has made it clear that he has no desire to order an attack, warning that U.S. airstrikes on Iran’s air defense network and nuclear facilities would spark a destabilizing new war in the Middle East, and would only delay Iran by several years should it choose to build a bomb. “A military solution will not fix it,” Obama told Israeli TV on June 1. An attack “would temporarily slow down an Iranian nuclear program, but it will not eliminate it.”

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

twodogsbarking

(14,095 posts)
7. Trump 2016. He'll never get elected and if he does it won't be that bad.
Mon Jun 23, 2025, 01:06 PM
9 hrs ago

Trump 2024. It will be that bad. Is he dead yet?

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