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BumRushDaShow

(156,885 posts)
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:16 AM Jun 28

US charges 11 people in Russia-based scheme to bilk Medicare of $10bn

Source: The Guardian/AFP

Fri 27 Jun 2025 23.38 EDT


US federal prosecutors charged 11 people on Friday in a Russia-based scheme to bilk Medicare – the American health insurance program for the elderly and disabled – out of $10.6bn through fraudulent billing for expensive medical equipment.

The “transnational criminal organization” orchestrated a “multi-billion-dollar health care fraud and money laundering scheme” that included purchasing dozens of medical equipment companies from prior legitimate owners to perpetrate the fraud, according to the indictment dated 18 June.

More than a million Medicare recipients had their personal information stolen and used by the defendants to file for billions of dollars in claims from Medicare and its supplemental insurers, prosecutors said in the filing.

The claims were filed through medical equipment providers that the group had purchased, but no equipment was ever sent out for the payments.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/28/us-charges-11-people-in-russia-based-scheme-to-bilk-medicare-of-10bn

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US charges 11 people in Russia-based scheme to bilk Medicare of $10bn (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jun 28 OP
I'm shocked the US govt is going after these Russian criminals. Irish_Dem Jun 28 #1
They must have left Putin out of the deal. bluedigger Jun 28 #3
My thought exactly. May have been Russian backed but not Oligarch backed. LiberalArkie Jun 28 #6
This investigation started under the Biden administration. Lonestarblue Jun 28 #12
The shock is that Trump didn't stop the investigation. Irish_Dem Jun 28 #14
Me too Gak73 Jun 28 #19
Doubts about all of this, seems a bit odd timing Born Free Jun 28 #33
Yes could be just a skit from the Trump reality TV show to distract voters. Irish_Dem Jun 28 #34
Good. But has the US looked lately at how much Medicare Advantage is bilking Medicare? CousinIT Jun 28 #2
Yep. Every dollar of profit is theft of a dollar from Medicare's budget n/t Cheezoholic Jun 28 #9
Tip of the Iceburger bucolic_frolic Jun 28 #4
That's wonderful that we did something good for once mahina Jun 28 #5
The US would save a lot more if they put a stop to Medicare calling me at least 6 Autumn Jun 28 #7
That's more than likely Medicare Advantage companies. Medicare itself does not cold call n/t Cheezoholic Jun 28 #10
Yep...+1000 Bengus81 Jun 28 #11
That advantage program gets their money frm Medicare. The calls never stop. Autumn Jun 28 #18
Correct. It's a PRIVATE insurance company, NOT Medicare. They will not get Medicare money if you dont use them Cheezoholic Jun 28 #27
Medicare is not calling you AverageOldGuy Jun 28 #23
Yes, you can go back to regular Medicare. But it's a PITA -- you have to drop during certain periods. eppur_se_muova Jun 28 #31
Wow! I didn't know Rick Scott was Russian! chowder66 Jun 28 #8
Snort!!! Bengus81 Jun 28 #13
My first thought Traildogbob Jun 28 #26
... CousinIT Jun 28 #15
Oh, you! Timeflyer Jun 28 #17
I know we hate private insurers for denying claims until they look at medical records, but traditional Medicare does a Silent Type Jun 28 #16
Recipients Personal information received from Elmo and associates??? Bev54 Jun 28 #20
My thoughts as well. Bayard Jun 28 #28
This started long before Musk, like 2022. Silent Type Jun 28 #29
"Hey Russia! You can't rob Medicare!" no_hypocrisy Jun 28 #21
Let this be a warning to YOU AverageOldGuy Jun 28 #22
In other words, better pony up trump's vigoresh thru his bitcoin laundry stat! PSPS Jun 28 #24
At one stroke, efficient federal government saves more money than DOGE ever did. Martin68 Jun 28 #25
DOGE was a complete success -- it screwed eveything up royally, and sent $B in contracts to Musk. Just as planned. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 28 #32
Don't worry, Trump will pardon them Quanto Magnus Jun 28 #30

bluedigger

(17,272 posts)
3. They must have left Putin out of the deal.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jun 28

They won't make that mistake again after the pardons come through.

LiberalArkie

(18,621 posts)
6. My thought exactly. May have been Russian backed but not Oligarch backed.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:41 AM
Jun 28

Theft and crime around the world seems to be ok as long as it is backed by the oligarchs and plutocrats.

Lonestarblue

(12,814 posts)
12. This investigation started under the Biden administration.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 10:22 AM
Jun 28

I was one whose account was stolen and fraudulent charges made. Fortunately, I check my Medicare statement each month, and I called Medicare to report the fake charges. This was at least 3+ years ago, and the Medicare employee was super helpful and thanked me more than once for reporting the fraud. After the DOGE wrecking ball, Medicare may no longer have employees to answer the phone and take information about fraud.

Irish_Dem

(72,509 posts)
14. The shock is that Trump didn't stop the investigation.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 10:28 AM
Jun 28

The Russian criminals must have given Trump a cut of the profits.

Gak73

(25 posts)
19. Me too
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:26 AM
Jun 28

I reported it too. It was insulin needles they said I bought. Medicare approved it even though i do not have diabetes. Wth!!!

Born Free

(1,644 posts)
33. Doubts about all of this, seems a bit odd timing
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 05:34 PM
Jun 28

$10bn in fraudulent activity at a time when politicians are having trouble getting voters to like their proposed cuts, but call it eliminating waste and fraud. The FlimFlam artist in the white house does know how to distract his voters.

CousinIT

(11,651 posts)
2. Good. But has the US looked lately at how much Medicare Advantage is bilking Medicare?
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:21 AM
Jun 28

It's a lot more than that.

bucolic_frolic

(51,516 posts)
4. Tip of the Iceburger
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:30 AM
Jun 28

Boys and girls, look at how vigilant we are!!!

"It's not a crime if you save your country." Whatever that's supposed to mean.

The radar is not perfect, perhaps not even well monitored.

Autumn

(48,176 posts)
7. The US would save a lot more if they put a stop to Medicare calling me at least 6
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 09:42 AM
Jun 28

times a day, every fucking day.

Cheezoholic

(3,120 posts)
10. That's more than likely Medicare Advantage companies. Medicare itself does not cold call n/t
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jun 28

Cheezoholic

(3,120 posts)
27. Correct. It's a PRIVATE insurance company, NOT Medicare. They will not get Medicare money if you dont use them
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:28 PM
Jun 28

It's the biggest problem with these. The GWB administration got a law passed allowing these companies to insert the word "Medicare" in the title of their plans when it's not Medicare at all. Medicare doesn't go out and pay these companies. The only way a company gets any Medicare money is if YOU choose to use them instead of regular Medicare.

It's what makes Medicare Advantage so confusing in an already insanely confusing process. I know, I just went through it. By being able to call themselves "Medicare Advantage" people think that actual Medicare is pushing these cold calls, sending these mailers etc when they are NOT!. Medicare will NEVER try to sell you ANYTHING! When you get your Medicare packet it gives you either the choices you have or where to find them online (by creating your Medicare account with Medicare itself).

I can't stand it when our Medicare takes the heat for this kind of stuff. It's completely understandable because of the way the Republicans have manipulated it and are trying to funnel it into private companies. I hope that cleared it up and just understand, Medicare itself is not calling you nor will they try and solicit you via phone or any other way. They only answer questions and send you information when you request it. Please note below, very important.....

If you are receiving ANY calls about Medicare they are 1 of 2 things, PRIVATE COMPANIES or FRAUDULENT IDENTITY THEIVES! Hang up. Block the numbers or if you don't know how to do that, call your phone provider they will do it for you.

Its never Medicare nor is it Medicare's fault, its Republicans and THATS WHY WE"RE ALL HERE!!!

AverageOldGuy

(2,750 posts)
23. Medicare is not calling you
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jun 28

That's one of the scam Medicare Advantage companies.

Whatever you do, DO NOT SWITCH TO MEDICARE ADVANTAGE. When you discover it's no damn good, you cannot go back to regular Medicare.

You see all those ads on TV about Medicare Advantage?? They are BULLSHIT.

eppur_se_muova

(39,458 posts)
31. Yes, you can go back to regular Medicare. But it's a PITA -- you have to drop during certain periods.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 05:16 PM
Jun 28

There are specific times when you can join a Medicare Advantage Plan or a Medicare
drug plan, or make changes to your existing Medicare coverage:
• During your Initial Enrollment Period (when you first become eligible for Medicare,
or when you turn 65). Go to page 2.
• During certain yearly enrollment periods. Go to page 3.
• Under certain circumstances if you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period, as
described below. Go to page 4
***
Medicare Advantage Open
Enrollment Period
• If you’re already enrolled in a Medicare
Advantage Plan, this period runs from
January 1– March 31.
• If you’re new to Medicare and enroll in a
Medicare Advantage Plan, this period runs
from the first month you’re entitled to both
Part A and Part B, until the last day of the 3rd
month you’re first entitled.
(You can use the Medicare Advantage Open
Enrollment Period to make only one change.
Changes will take effect the first day of the
month after the plan gets your request.)

• Switch to another Medicare Advantage Plan (with or
without drug coverage).
• Drop your Medicare Advantage Plan and go back to
Original Medicare. If you do this, you’ll be able to join a
Medicare drug plan.

https://www.medicare.gov/publications/11219-Understanding-Medicare-Advantage-Medicare-Drug-Plan-Enrollment-Periods.pdf

Traildogbob

(11,518 posts)
26. My first thought
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:22 PM
Jun 28

Rick Scottski had to be the mastermind. He knows the only consequence is a wrist slap, a Governors seat and then Senate,
How many damn Russians are in our government?
Russia Russia Russia.
But Hunter…….

Silent Type

(10,521 posts)
16. I know we hate private insurers for denying claims until they look at medical records, but traditional Medicare does a
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:12 AM
Jun 28

crappy job of weeding out fraud. OP is a good example, how did it go on for several years. And there are plenty more examples.

From article: "Medicare paid “approximately $41 million as a result of the fraudulent submissions” and supplemental insurers are estimated to have paid out $900m more between 2022 and 2024, prosecutors wrote."

AverageOldGuy

(2,750 posts)
22. Let this be a warning to YOU
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:38 AM
Jun 28

If you or anyone in your family or your elderly neighbors use Medicare IT IS CRITICAL THAT THEY CAREFULLY READ THE QUARTERLY (OR MONTHLY) MEDICARE STATEMENT. Or, better yet, you read it for them.

Medicare sends out quarterly/monthly statements showing:
-- the doctor or hospital or whomever doing the billing (Dr. I Push Pills);
-- purpose of the bill (set broken arm);
-- the amount of the bill ($1,000);
-- the amount Medicare paid ($900);
-- the amount you may be billed ($100; usually the doc writes off this amount, you don't often get billed for this).

A lady in my church was not in the habit of reading her bills, just glanced at them, filed them, and was happy that no one was billing her. Then, one day, she read the whole thing where she discovered that a medical group six states away had billed her $31,000 for various braces, therapy, and the like -- she did not recognize them, never had such work done.

She then pulled her old bills out of the file cabinet and turned out the same billing was on THREE previous quarterly statements -- a total of $124,000 over the past year.

She called Medicare and was told, yes, this is a scam, we have caught it, it will not be on your bill, please for your and our protection READ YOUR BILL CAREFULLY.

She stood up in church one Sunday and told the congregation about it. All us old people went home, pulled out our Medicare bills and searched them. Next Sunday, three people -- including old you-know-who -- announced that we, too, had found similar false billing.

READ THAT MEDICARE BILL. AND -- READ THE BILL FROM YOU SECONDARY INSURER ALSO. CALL THEM IF ANYTHING LOOKS FISHY.

PSPS

(14,724 posts)
24. In other words, better pony up trump's vigoresh thru his bitcoin laundry stat!
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 11:56 AM
Jun 28

When it's in his wallet, the DOJ will drop the investigation.

Martin68

(26,182 posts)
25. At one stroke, efficient federal government saves more money than DOGE ever did.
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jun 28

If the IRS was allowed to operate normally, they would also save similar amounts.

eppur_se_muova

(39,458 posts)
32. DOGE was a complete success -- it screwed eveything up royally, and sent $B in contracts to Musk. Just as planned. nt
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 05:19 PM
Jun 28

Quanto Magnus

(1,176 posts)
30. Don't worry, Trump will pardon them
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jun 28

and hand over the $10bn personally (for a small fee of course!)

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