House Moves Ahead on Trump Policy Bill, Overcoming G.O.P. Resistance

[BumRushDaShow]

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Source: New York Times

July 3, 2025 Updated 4:07 a.m. ET


The House took its first step early Thursday toward a final vote on President Trump's marquee domestic policy bill, after Republicans put down a revolt by conservative holdouts that had threatened to sink it.

After a day and night of paralysis on the House floor, and haggling and uncertainty in the Capitol, Speaker Mike Johnson scored a preliminary victory in his bid to overcome resistance within his party when the House voted to allow the bill to come up for debate. The 219-to-213 vote suggested he had won the backing of recalcitrant Republicans whose resistance had stalled the measure, though the House still had to take a final vote to approve it.

Facing tight margins in the House, he could afford only a handful of defections on the measure, which would slash taxes by a total of $4.5 trillion, increase funding for the military and border security, cut about $1 trillion from Medicaid and reduce food assistance for the poor. In the end, only Representative Brian Fitzpatrick, a moderate from Pennsylvania, joined Democrats in opposing the move to advance the bill after four other Republicans had initially voted against it and several others had withheld their votes.

Dysfunction reigned on the House floor into the wee hours of Thursday morning ahead of the vote, as a handful of Republicans opposed bringing up the measure and more withheld their votes altogether, sending Mr. Johnson grasping for a way to muscle through the sweeping legislation in the face of unified Democratic opposition.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/03/us/politics/house-trump-bill-obbb.html

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No paywall (gift)

Just breaking I think this may have been the Rules vote.


Article updated.

Original article -

July 3, 2025 Updated 3:25 a.m. ET


The House took its first step early Thursday toward a final vote on President Trump's marquee domestic policy bill, after Republicans put down a revolt by conservative holdouts that had threatened to sink it.

After a day and night of paralysis on the House floor, and haggling and uncertainty in the Capitol, Speaker Mike Johnson scored a preliminary victory in his bid to overcome resistance within his party when the House voted to allow the bill to come up for debate. The 219-to-213 vote suggested he had won the backing of recalcitrant Republicans whose resistance had stalled the measure, though the House still had to take a final vote to approve it.

Facing tight margins in the House, he could afford only a handful of defections on the measure, which would slash taxes by a total of $4.5 trillion, increase funding for the military and border security, cut about $1 trillion from Medicaid and reduce food assistance for the poor.

Dysfunction reigned on the House floor into the wee hours of Thursday morning ahead of the vote, as a handful of Republicans opposed bringing up the measure and more withheld their votes altogether, sending Mr. Johnson grasping for a way to muscle through the sweeping legislation in the face of unified Democratic opposition.

[modrepub]

1. Still Think This Will Ultimately Pass

Yea, it's real bad. But what will Democrats do if they have an opportunity to "undo" any of this? Do we just go back to the way things may have worked? Or do they let Red states deal with the consequences of their votes?

I may be cruel, but given the attitude of MAGA, I'd be perfectly fine if we let them try and figure out a way to work out their problems using their own resources instead of taking from donor areas that pay more into federal coffers than they get back. Yes there still would be consequence for this stance, but I've pretty much had enough with the petty cruelty.

[OrlandoDem2]

4. I believe bad things need to happen economically and even as it relates to health for MAGA to see the reality.

I believe there needs to be a deep recession while the GOP MAGAs are in charge. I am cutting spending and doing everything I can. Will it be painful? Yes but I’m prepared. These fuckers won’t understand the error of their ways until they suffer.

Speaking of which, when rural hospitals close and the next hospital over is 4 hours away, some will die. I’m saddened for those who u destined the implications of their vote and voted for Harris. Not saddened at all for the fucking MAGA scum who voted for Trump.

[Zipgun]

6. Didn't they add money just for rural hospitals? So that only urban hospitals will face the worst of it?

Lots of nasty carve outs to blunt the pain for just their voters. Hope it does not work, but the cruelty is targeted.

[modrepub]

12. Sometimes I Think We're Not Messaging

This the correct way. Certainly, lack of access to good and timely healthcare is going to cause problems. But, let’s be honest, do MAGA really care about anyone but themselves? And they can always fall back on “God wills it”, right?

To me, this is a jobs killing bill. Healthcare in rural areas, besides government, is a major employer that has good benefits. So what are these people going to do when they loose their jobs when federal money is gone? And this will trickle down to local businesses that rely of these folks salaries.

Apparently, economics is lost on most of these folks. Kind of like farmers who vote MAGA and wonder where all their farm hands went and why their soybean, corn and wheat is worth less. Duh!

[mopinko]

17. we dont talk enough about all the good jobs created by the aca.

[BigmanPigman]

2. I'm so confused!

What is going on? Someone please explain it to me like I am a six year old.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Whenever there is legislation that needs to be voted on

they have a Committee (Rules Committee) that works out all the processes needed for how members will handle that legislation before finally voting on it - whether Amendments can be added, how long the debate will be on those, how long (number of hours) the final debate will be, etc.

So once that set of "Rules" are voted out of the Rules Committee, those Rules need to be approved by Congress FIRST, before they move on. Congress (the GOP since they are in the majority) just approved the Rules.

[BigmanPigman]

20. Great explanation. Thanks!

[progree]

3. The only thing left in the House as far as voting is the final House vote

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-big-beautiful-bill-rules-committee/

House advances Trump's "big, beautiful bill" for debate before final vote, CBS News, 424 AM EDT 7/3/25

The House voted 219-213 overnight Wednesday, after hours of delay, to advance President Trump's "big, beautiful bill" for debate before a final vote. GOP leaders had to overcome pushback over changes the Senate made to the legislation.

The latest vote began at about 9:30 p.m. Wednesday and wrapped up at about 3:20 a.m. as GOP holdouts were pressured to vote "yes."

Debate was expected to last roughly an hour, after which House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and Speaker Mike Johnson were expected to address the chamber.

The holdouts and all that was all Kabuki Theater.

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< 4 hours to payroll jobs report

[Freddie]

7. Fitzpatrick did the right thing??!!!??!!

I’m in shock.
Of course he did it knowing full well it’s a meaningless gesture now.

[BumRushDaShow]

9. He still needs to be REMOVED

Bucks County MUST MUST MUST clear the red scourge out of SE PA and make our corner of the state fully BLUE!

[Freddie]

10. The party allowed him to vote no

If they’d truly needed his one vote he’d be kissing ass like all the rest.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Exactly

although there are other so-called "moderates" in other swing districts that Harris won, who could have done the same - at least 2 more could have to still move forward with a 217 - 215 vote.

[Deminpenn]

14. That's true, but shows just how worried the Rs about losing PA-1

PA-1 covers most, if not all of Bucks County. Bucks is has an interesting split. Lower Bucks, Bensalem/Levittown/Bristol, is mostly red necks, a lot of whom moved there from Philadelphia because it's "not Philadelphia" but close proximity to it.
Then you have the arts community around Washington's Crossing and the old establishment country club Rs in upper Bucks.

I think the only reason Fitzpatrick has been able to hold the seat for the GOP is because he, like his brother, served as a county commissioner. So he started with good name recognition and linked with county policies voters liked. He'll be hard to unseat, imho.

[Freddie]

16. Unfortunately you are correct

And this just persuaded lots of folks how “moderate” he is. Agree the party is desperate to hang on to that seat. I’m in purplish-red Upper Bucks. At least almost all the idiots took their trump signs out of their yards.

[BumRushDaShow]

21. I remember when Patrick Murphy, one of the first Iraq War vets, briefly held that seat

back when it was PA-8 (before the 2018 redistricting and renumbering). I believe he got it in 2006 during the big (D) "wave election", when after 12 years of being out of power in the House, Democrats finally took it back. He held it in 2008, but the "Citizen's United" / "Teabagger" nightmare wiped us out in 2010 (including him).

[Freddie]

22. Remember it well

A bunch of us from the community band rode a flatbed in the local Halloween parade playing “Happy Days are Here Again” and “Signed, Sealed, Delivered” in support of Murphy and Obama.
Such innocent days.

[progree]

8. 5 ways Trump's tax bill will limit health care access, NPR, 7/2/25

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/07/02/npr-senate-republicans-tax-bill-medicaid-health-care

1. Many people will have to work to stay on Medicaid

-snip-

2. Less cash means less care in rural communities (and urban -Progree)

The GOP's plan would curtail a practice, known as provider taxes, that nearly every state has used for decades to increase Medicaid payments to hospitals, nursing homes and other providers and to private managed-care companies.

-snip-

So much for states rights I guess

3. ACA coverage will become harder to get and keep

Marketplace policyholders would be required to update their income, immigration status and other information each year, rather than be allowed to automatically reenroll — something more than 10 million people did this year. They would also have less time to enroll; the bill shortens the annual open enrollment period by about a month.

People applying for coverage outside that period — for instance, because they lose a job or other insurance or need to add a newborn or spouse to an existing policy — would have to wait for all their documents to be processed before receiving government subsidies to help pay their monthly premiums. Today, they get up to 90 days of premium help during the application process, which can take weeks.

-snip-

The legislation also does not call for an extension of more generous subsidies put in place during the COVID-19 pandemic. If Congress doesn't act, those enhanced subsidies will expire at year's end, resulting in premiums rising by an average of 75% next year, according to KFF.

4. Those on Medicaid will pay more to see the doctor
-snip-

5. Some immigrants will lose access to subsidized ACA plans
The GOP plan could cause at least hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are lawfully present — including asylum-seekers, victims of trafficking and refugees — to lose their ACA marketplace coverage by cutting off the subsidies that make premiums affordable. (Note: The restriction would not apply to green-card holders.)

Because the immigrants who would lose subsidies under this plan tend to be younger than the overall U.S. population, their exit would leave an older, sicker and costlier population of marketplace enrollees, further pushing up marketplace premiums, according to marketplace directors in California, Maryland and Massachusetts, and health analysts.

-snip-

[DENVERPOPS]

11. My thinking is

that if this bill passes, IT WILL BE THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR THE LOWER 99% AND WILL LEAD TO NOT JUST A RECESSION, BUT A TRUE DEPRESSION, FAR WORSE THAN THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

There are already a ton of visible signs, rearing their ugly little heads, and passing this will put things happening at warp speed. That along with his tariffs will cream the lower 99%.

So far, only the auto industry Corporations are starting to throw in the towel and announcing their demise publicly. Car dealerships across the country are folding like a house of cards.......Auto manufacturers are soon to be stopping production all together, resulting in firings of hundreds of thousands of employees, when you figure in the massive amounts of employees of the parts manufacturers that the crash will cause........

I personally think that we are about to see the cascade effect, or domino effect through out the U.S. Corporations across America. Besides the Auto Industry, think about the firings of employees in Health Care, etc etc etc to name another one collapsing

[Mr.Bee]

18. Trump Government

he will bankrupt it the way he has bankrupted every 'business' he ever started!
Hey everybody! Get your Trump Government now!
Guaranteed to cause a Great Republican Depression!

Yay!

[DENVERPOPS]

19. Does this sound familiar?

First Great Depression:

Harding (R) 1921-1923
Coolidge (R) 1923-1929
Hoover (R) 1929-1933x


Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1929
Scope and Purpose: Enacted during the onset of the Great Depression, the Smoot-Hawley Act raised tariffs on over 20,000 imported goods, primarily targeting agriculture and manufacturing, with the goal of protecting American businesses and farmers from foreign competition.
Strategy: It represented a broadly protectionist stance, aimed at restricting imports across a wide range of products.
Economic Impact: Widely regarded by economists as a detrimental policy, it triggered retaliatory tariffs from other countries, leading to a collapse in global trade and exacerbating the Great Depression. Its immediate effect was to make imports too expensive for most Americans and significantly decrease exports. The U.S. stock market plummeted nearly 89% between 1929 and 1932, requiring 25 years to recover.

[et tu]

15. ima wrong?

i thought a lot of these harmful measures
don't take effect until 2029?