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BumRushDaShow

(157,317 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:13 PM Jul 9

New Plan Proposed To Save Social Security

Source: Newsweek

Published Jul 09, 2025 at 10:36 AM EDT


A bipartisan pair of senators have floated a bold new solution to the insolvency crisis facing Social Security, which they say could save the program within a decade.

In a recent op-ed for The Washington Post, Republican Senator Bill Cassidy and Democratic Senator Tim Kaine announced a proposal to set up an alternative funding model for the safety net program, which would supplement the program's Trust Fund with a new diversified pool of investments.

Why It Matters

The potential depletion of the Social Security Trust Fund has long been an issue of concern on Capitol Hill. A recent report from Social Security Administration warned that the program "continue[s] to face significant financing issues," and estimated that the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance fund would only be able to cover "100 percent of total scheduled benefits until 2033."

Insolvency would not mean that the program stops altogether, though future payments would become entirely reliant on what is collected in payroll taxes each year. This could fail to cover the entirety of scheduled benefits and possibly could result in cuts or increased taxes being needed for the program.


Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/new-plan-proposed-save-social-security-2096601



Link to WaPo SUBMISSION - Our bipartisan plan could rescue Social Security

Newsweek's link to the WaPo article (archive version) - https://archive.ph/L2wTK#selection-287.0-287.48


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New Plan Proposed To Save Social Security (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jul 9 OP
Well, given all that Trump is doing to kill us all, maybe there is no hurry... hlthe2b Jul 9 #1
I have abetter idea Give Peace A Chance Jul 9 #16
and include unearned income over, say, $500,000 in the taxable mx. Aw fuck. On second thought, not a good idea. 3Hotdogs Jul 9 #18
You'd think maybe,just maybe Tim Kaine would have mentioned that?!?! Bengus81 Jul 9 #21
Exactly Rebl2 Jul 9 #24
More gambling. FalloutShelter Jul 9 #2
I can hear that chant ... and it sounds potentially KPN Jul 10 #33
This must be doublespeak for break it completely. ananda Jul 9 #3
"we must destroy thevillage in order to save it" rampartd Jul 9 #7
That's the ticket, privatize socilal seurity Progressive dog Jul 9 #4
eliminate the tax cap moonshinegnomie Jul 9 #5
"a new diversified pool of investments." rampartd Jul 9 #6
Diversified into crypto and Progressive dog Jul 9 #14
Screw DAT! Unbacked currency is just dirty paper! mpcamb Jul 9 #17
The fact is that SS funded tax cuts for the rich and no one had any problems whatsoever with that dsc Jul 9 #8
A lot of MAGAs depend on Social Security FakeNoose Jul 9 #9
The MAGA will blame the Democrats and worship Trump until they die prematurely. nt PufPuf23 Jul 9 #19
here's what they think NJCher Jul 10 #31
How can anyone think that foreign countries will pay trillions in tariffs? Justice matters. Jul 10 #34
Orange anus will threaten countries to not raise prices louis-t Jul 10 #39
Your response to those dumbass MAGAs was right-on! FakeNoose Jul 10 #36
They will understand it only when they are out on the street because of it. SupportSanity Jul 10 #37
Only a part of the solution. James48 Jul 9 #10
"alternative funding model" raises HUGE RED FLAGS for me. Oh. Dump it in the fucking STOCK MARKET?? CousinIT Jul 9 #11
No. Just no. nt in2herbs Jul 9 #12
Fuck you, Tim Kaine! yellow dahlia Jul 9 #13
This would be the GOP's dream come true. What is wrong with Kaine? Raven123 Jul 9 #15
If there is trillions availed for tax cuts to the wealthy republianmushroom Jul 9 #20
Oh FFS not fooled Jul 9 #22
How about they just raise the cap and tax rich people? tinrobot Jul 9 #23
Ya.........No LiberalLovinLug Jul 9 #25
Eliminate cap over 400k and add another bend point JT45242 Jul 9 #26
So "diversfied pool of investments" Buddyzbuddy Jul 9 #27
They really are killing this party aren't they? thumper2547 Jul 9 #28
I'm not buying that. Wall Street financiers and robber barons have had their eye on PatrickforB Jul 9 #29
NO LudwigPastorius Jul 9 #30
Getting REALLY sick of these overly convoluted, half-assed "bipartisan" solutions to problems with VERY obvious answers. Karasu Jul 10 #32
Bipartisanship? Restore Medicaid/ Medicare funding bronxiteforever Jul 10 #35
It sucks now that our Congress thinks a bad solution is better than no solution mdbl Jul 10 #38
JUST ELIMINATE THE WAGE CAP!!!! greenspud's reagan era fix was a time bomb. pansypoo53219 Jul 10 #40

3Hotdogs

(14,411 posts)
18. and include unearned income over, say, $500,000 in the taxable mx. Aw fuck. On second thought, not a good idea.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 07:55 PM
Jul 9

That would include Donald paying from his profits on his cyber coin, perfume, golf clubs. Whatdafuck is wrong with me, coming up with that idea?

Bengus81

(9,079 posts)
21. You'd think maybe,just maybe Tim Kaine would have mentioned that?!?!
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:37 PM
Jul 9

Instead of playing the stock market with peoples retirement money.

ananda

(32,659 posts)
3. This must be doublespeak for break it completely.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jul 9

Republican motto:

If it aint broke, fix it till it is.

Progressive dog

(7,501 posts)
14. Diversified into crypto and
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 07:29 PM
Jul 9

we'll even get to pay for fund management. That sounds like a plan, but not to keep Social Security paying, more like a plan to cut the payouts quicker.

dsc

(53,036 posts)
8. The fact is that SS funded tax cuts for the rich and no one had any problems whatsoever with that
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:42 PM
Jul 9

but now that SS needs to be paid back it is suddenly unfair. We should undo Reagan's tax cuts and use that money to pay the benefits.

FakeNoose

(38,026 posts)
9. A lot of MAGAs depend on Social Security
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jul 9

Do they even understand what Chump is doing to starve them? I doubt it.

NJCher

(40,838 posts)
31. here's what they think
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:24 AM
Jul 10

I heard two of them talking about the $6000 from the dumbass "BBB." This is only $6000 people drawing Social Security don't have to pay tax on. One of them explained it and it doesn't amount to much. It's a big nothiing.

After explaining it, this person said "I'm a fan (of trump, she meant) and I'm unhappy about this." I said that's nothing, what concerns me is the trillions of dollars we're going into debt over, just from this budget.

The two hastened to assure me the trillions were nothing because he was gettiing it all back in tariffs.



I burst out laughing, right in their faces. I said we, the customers, pay those tariffs. These two Fox Noise watchers looked at me like a deer caught in the headlights. I picked up my phone and said let's just see what search engines say about who pays tariffs. I entered who pays tariffs and the results came up. Every entry except for one said the customer ends up paying the tariffs.

The one that didn't say this was Chicago Law (highly credible) that said it's a little of both. Not 100 per cent sure on that because I didn't read it all, so if you're curious search it.

So yeah, in their heads the trillions of dollars we're going into debt for is going to be paid by tariffs. LOLOLOL.

oh and p.s. One of them owns three Teslas, including a Cybertruck.

Justice matters.

(8,678 posts)
34. How can anyone think that foreign countries will pay trillions in tariffs?
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 02:46 AM
Jul 10

How is it possible to be so ignorant?

The tariffs are sales taxes imposed on the consumers inside the borders!

louis-t

(24,426 posts)
39. Orange anus will threaten countries to not raise prices
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 11:28 AM
Jul 10

and just absorb the cost. Most will tell him to go fuck himself.

FakeNoose

(38,026 posts)
36. Your response to those dumbass MAGAs was right-on!
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:14 AM
Jul 10

Thanks for this ... it confirms my thoughts, and I don't know many MAGAs personally.

If they only get their "facts" and "news" from Faux Noise, they're in for a world of hurt.

James48

(4,880 posts)
10. Only a part of the solution.
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jul 9

There also must be tax changes by lifting the cap, and applying SS taxes to all forms of income, not just wages. Gains income also, and a ss tax on taking out loans against stocks.

CousinIT

(11,669 posts)
11. "alternative funding model" raises HUGE RED FLAGS for me. Oh. Dump it in the fucking STOCK MARKET??
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jul 9

OH HELL NO!

We don't need goddamned billionaires gambling with OUR money!

yellow dahlia

(2,618 posts)
13. Fuck you, Tim Kaine!
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 07:29 PM
Jul 9

There you go again - Dems falling prey to RepubliCON manipulations and tricks.

I am so pissed right now...I will probably opine more later.

republianmushroom

(20,785 posts)
20. If there is trillions availed for tax cuts to the wealthy
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:31 PM
Jul 9

then by hell there is money for SS. More reaching across the aisle, damn , Dems never learn. (sigh )

not fooled

(6,398 posts)
22. Oh FFS
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:08 PM
Jul 9

A big part of the reason for the shortfall in the trust fund is that income inequality rocketed upwards in the last few decades (ever since that evil old bastard raygun got the ball rolling in earnest). As a result, Social Security collected much less in contributions than planned, because more and more income was above the cap. Alex Lawson of Social Security Works is all over this.

Therefore, raising the cap is merely recapturing Social Security's fair share of income.

Geez, why don't these two want to address the underlying problem?

This country, I dunno...actually, I do.

tinrobot

(11,659 posts)
23. How about they just raise the cap and tax rich people?
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 09:22 PM
Jul 9

Instead, they're going to pour Social Security funds into the market and make those rich people even richer.

JT45242

(3,513 posts)
26. Eliminate cap over 400k and add another bend point
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:05 PM
Jul 9

I would get rid of cap altogether, but the donut plan is favored by many.

Top bend is approximately $7400 a month or approximately $89,000 a year and it's 15 percent above that. Make the next bend point at $8333 (approximately $100k a year) and payout 1 percent above that.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,240 posts)
27. So "diversfied pool of investments"
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:07 PM
Jul 9

Way to go Tim Kaine. Now you're the Democratic face of what Republicans have been trying to do since at least the 80's. You want to risk our money in the easily manipulated stock market. Genius!

I'm willing to take my chances on a whole new Democratic wave beginning in '26 and continuing for a long time to come. Biden had it right, drop the cap on withholding for SS, and you've solved the problem in perpetuity. Any Democrat that can't get behind that, I suspect, is going to have a hard time holding their seat.

thumper2547

(29 posts)
28. They really are killing this party aren't they?
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:39 PM
Jul 9

Seriously, their proposal is to put social security funds in the stock market! The one thing we have been avoiding forever because what happens when we have another big crash?

Everyone in the party wants one simple thing:

TAX RICH PEOPLE AND BIG CORPORATIONS FOR GOD'S SAKE

Yet here we are with another "innovative" solution instead of just DOING WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT THE BASE WANTS.

For the longest time I believed we weren't bought and sold by wall street. I fought against it tooth and nail and declared we were the party of the little guy.
My god I was so delusional.

PatrickforB

(15,254 posts)
29. I'm not buying that. Wall Street financiers and robber barons have had their eye on
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 10:53 PM
Jul 9

the Social Security Trust Fund since 1935. This 'salvation' package merely gives Wall Street and its bronze bull idol a foot in the door to speculate with the old age pensions we have all built up paycheck by paycheck.

I have a BETTER IDEA, Tim. How about we RAISE TAXES ON BILLIONAIRE PARASITES until there are NO billionaire parasites left to suck off the rest of our hard work.

I'm DONE with these institutionalists. I'm sorry. This makes me want to puke. Fucking Musk is getting a giant tax cut along with all the other billionaire boyz, and billions in government contracts, and I'm sitting here with fucking $10K+ in HEALTH CARE DEBT.

Who the BLUE FUCK do these people think they are fooling? It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no Senator's son!

LudwigPastorius

(13,037 posts)
30. NO
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:54 PM
Jul 9

This is what happened to my pension fund.

The board, in their wisdom after the crash of 2008, were desperate to "make up lost ground", so they paid an investment company to spread some of its capital into risky equities.

Fast forward 10 years and it was headed for insolvency.

Karasu

(1,706 posts)
32. Getting REALLY sick of these overly convoluted, half-assed "bipartisan" solutions to problems with VERY obvious answers.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 01:52 AM
Jul 10

No one fucking asked for this shit, Tim.

bronxiteforever

(10,651 posts)
35. Bipartisanship? Restore Medicaid/ Medicare funding
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:01 AM
Jul 10

Bill Cassidy who gave us RFk jr. How about impeachment of RFK jr?

mdbl

(7,024 posts)
38. It sucks now that our Congress thinks a bad solution is better than no solution
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:56 AM
Jul 10

Let's make it even more risky. Not a good idea Tim.

pansypoo53219

(22,440 posts)
40. JUST ELIMINATE THE WAGE CAP!!!! greenspud's reagan era fix was a time bomb.
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jul 10

lower FICA + kill the cap.

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