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BumRushDaShow

(156,885 posts)
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:48 AM 14 hrs ago

US set to deport permanent residents over alleged support to Haitian gang leaders

Source: Reuters

July 21, 2025 10:51 PM EDT Updated 11 hours ago


WASHINGTON, July 21 (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday paved the way for the United States to deport certain lawful permanent residents, saying Washington determined some had supported Haitian gang leaders connected to a U.S.-designated "terrorist" organization.

Rubio in a statement said certain U.S. lawful permanent residents had supported and collaborated with gang leaders tied to Viv Ansanm, the armed alliance that controls most of Haiti's capital, Port-au-Prince, which President Donald Trump's administration labeled a Foreign Terrorist Organization in May.

Following the determination, the Department of Homeland Security can pursue the deportation of the lawful permanent residents, also known as green-card holders, Rubio added. It was unclear how many people could be targeted for deportation, and no individuals were named in his statement.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said late on Monday that its Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials arrested Pierre Reginald Boulos, a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. and citizen of Haiti, over alleged engagement in violence and contribution to "destabilization of Haiti." The Miami Herald described Boulos, 69, as "an influential Haitian businessman and controversial political powerbroker" who was an American-born entrepreneur and physician.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-set-deport-permanent-residents-over-alleged-support-haitian-gang-leaders-2025-07-21/

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US set to deport permanent residents over alleged support to Haitian gang leaders (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 14 hrs ago OP
Maybe it's in the story... SickOfTheOnePct 14 hrs ago #1
Oh well, paywall n/t SickOfTheOnePct 14 hrs ago #2
msn finally has a non-walled up version (I normally clear my cache of Reuters cookies to read a couple freebie views) BumRushDaShow 12 hrs ago #7
Thanks! SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #8
After I posted BumRushDaShow 12 hrs ago #9
Got the answer elsewhere SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #3
I won't be surprised if they start rounding up people that just sent money home to Haiti for their loved ones tulipsandroses 13 hrs ago #4
This would be wrong on so many levels, and it threatens the legally emigrated citizens as well FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #6
They're just making shit up Bayard 13 hrs ago #5
What is the authority dertermining justification to deport permanent residents? FormerOstrich 9 hrs ago #10
Since they are prone to making up authorities that they don't have BumRushDaShow 9 hrs ago #11

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,004 posts)
1. Maybe it's in the story...
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:53 AM
14 hrs ago

...and I'll read it momentarily, but if he is U.S. born, then why isn't he a citizen, rather than a permanent resident?

Or perhaps I'm misreading this blurb, it's been known to happen.

BumRushDaShow

(156,885 posts)
7. msn finally has a non-walled up version (I normally clear my cache of Reuters cookies to read a couple freebie views)
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:11 PM
12 hrs ago
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/us-set-to-deport-permanent-residents-over-alleged-support-to-haitian-gang-leaders/ar-AA1J29Lq

I had an issue about this thing about him being "born in the United States" but then applying to be a "permanent legal resident" and found this clarification in an AP article -

US immigration agents arrest former Haitian presidential hopeful over alleged gang ties

By DÁNICA COTO
Updated 10:35 AM EDT, July 22, 2025

(snip)

Boulos was born in the United States but renounced his citizenship to run for president of Haiti in recent years. He then obtained U.S residency last year under the administration of President Joe Biden.

(snip)

BumRushDaShow

(156,885 posts)
9. After I posted
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:22 PM
12 hrs ago

I noticed you had found the same info. I hadn't had chance to look up this guy to find out what the heck was going on with the citizenship thing, It's sad that Haiti has become such a basket case.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,004 posts)
3. Got the answer elsewhere
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:57 AM
13 hrs ago

He was born in the United States, was a U.S. citizen, but renounced his citizenship to run for president of Haiti. Got his green card last year.

tulipsandroses

(7,698 posts)
4. I won't be surprised if they start rounding up people that just sent money home to Haiti for their loved ones
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:01 AM
13 hrs ago

Then say that they were supporting terrorism.
This is a tactic that has been used in the USA in black neighborhoods.


Civil gang injunctions (CGIs) are court orders that restrict the activities and movement of people who police designate as ‘gang members’. Their intended purpose is to break up gangs and reduce crime. But who is a “gang member”? And what do these orders really do?

As it turns out, these injunctions have become largely tools by which law enforcement surveil and stigmatize targeted people of color. They create separate systems of government observation and control that almost exclusively impact Black and Brown people, making it impossible for people to live normal lives, get help from friends and family and access the things that prevent crime and make communities safer, like school, jobs, and housing.

By giving police and courts immense power to label people as ‘gang members’ without proof, control their every move, and impose harsh punishments for noncriminal behaviors, these laws make it significantly more likely that a person will become entrapped in the criminal legal system unnecessarily. Reducing the harm caused by gang documentation and CGIs must be part of the movement to end mass incarceration and promote practices that actually create safety.

https://www.partnersforjustice.org/evidence/gang-documentation-and-gang-injunctions-harm-communities

FakeNoose

(37,937 posts)
6. This would be wrong on so many levels, and it threatens the legally emigrated citizens as well
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:14 AM
13 hrs ago

Sending money to a foreign country - for whatever reason - is my right as an American citizen. Whether I choose to support family members living elsewhere, or maybe support a political group, a missionary church or an educational group in another country ... I can do it because it's my money. I earned it, paid taxes to Uncle Sam, and it's my choice to do so.

I'm born here, and so were my parents, grandparents and great-grandparents. But how is that different from the legal citizens who came here during their own lifetimes? They should have the same rights, but apparently Chump's government doesn't see it that way.

Bayard

(26,042 posts)
5. They're just making shit up
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:10 AM
13 hrs ago

Next up: Deporting all green card holders. No, "evidence," required.

FormerOstrich

(2,827 posts)
10. What is the authority dertermining justification to deport permanent residents?
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 03:18 PM
9 hrs ago

Is this a decision Rubio makes on his own? Or, was there some sort of court authorization. I can't tell from the articles. I have added emphases below:


WASHINGTON, July 21 (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday paved the way for the United States to deport certain lawful permanent residents, saying Washington determined some had supported Haitian gang leaders connected to a U.S.-designated "terrorist" organization.
.....
Following the determination, the Department of Homeland Security can pursue the deportation of the lawful permanent residents, also known as green-card holders, Rubio added. It was unclear how many people could be targeted for deportation, and no individuals were named in his statement.


The implication is Homeland Security did not have authority until a "determination" was obtained. Was/Is that the sole decision of Rubio? Is it in his scope of work to do so?

BumRushDaShow

(156,885 posts)
11. Since they are prone to making up authorities that they don't have
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 03:43 PM
9 hrs ago

it would need to be taken to court to have a judge "remind them".

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