House Democrat Urges MAGA To 'Imagine Who Gets Killed' In Deadly Strikes If AOC Was President
Source: Huff Post
Oct 29, 2025, 08:49 PM EDT | Updated 5 hours ago
Rep. Jim Himes (D-Conn.) on Wednesday excoriated President Donald Trump for illegally striking the boats of merely suspected drug-runners in Pacific and Caribbean waters, and warned supporters that it sets a dire precedent they might not appreciate in the future. Himes appeared on MSNBCs Chris Jansing Reports to discuss the controversial strikes, which began in early September and have killed at least 57 people that the Trump administration maintains were all trying to smuggle narcotics such as fentanyl into the U.S.
Jansing played a clip Wednesday of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) claiming earlier in the day that most Americans support Trump in these strikes. The conservative also rebuked Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) on Monday for calling them sanctioned murder.
If Lindsey Graham and other Republicans want to go the route of saying, Its OK to kill people illegally, just so long as the American public supports it, the American public needs to really think that through, said Himes. There will be a Democratic president someday.
He continued, And all my MAGA friends who are cheering on these illegal killings need to imagine who gets killed when President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says that it doesnt matter what the law says, shes going to do what shes going to do. The Connecticut Democrat has joined a burgeoning chorus with his criticism, which was clearly aimed at the pro-Trump nature of support for the strikes and not at Ocasio-Cortez.
Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jim-himes-condemns-deadly-us-strikes-trump-administration_n_690287d2e4b0caf9a3517408?origin=home-zone-b-unit
Lonestarblue
(13,060 posts)Rep. Himes could have said instead that most fentanyl comes through Mexico and not Venezuela, so Trump is most lijely having innocent fishermen killed by playing his political games.
riversedge
(78,583 posts)BaronChocula
(3,671 posts)I think it would have made the same point without helping to buy into the argument that "AOC is just as extreme as trump."
thought crime
(949 posts)This paints AOC as potentially violent and given her position that is not only extremely dumb but dangerous as well.
BumRushDaShow
(162,526 posts)since AOC has been a continual thorn in the GOP's side and they have been whining about her for years.
The only thing that their feral animal minds can process and comprehend based on their own behavior, is someone "doing to them" what they "do to others".
sop
(16,672 posts)That's bullshit.
marble falls
(69,017 posts)... a real Congress would be at work defining Presidential limits within the Constitution.
JBTaurus83
(737 posts)Hes adding to the demonization of her. Democrats really F-ing suck with messaging.
gab13by13
(30,321 posts)Hey Jim there was room on the bus/plane for you to go across the country with AOC and Bernie letting the people know what is coming for them.
LuvLoogie
(8,372 posts)I might even use those words.
LuvLoogie
(8,372 posts)He is a Dem after all.
JI7
(92,870 posts)wouldn't happen if AOC was President.
Mister Ed
(6,730 posts)Who would she kill on a whim, the way Trump has done? No one. Absolutely no one. That Dem politician really screwed up by trying to use AOC as a boogieman to frighten his Republican colleagues into doing what's right and lawful.
Miguelito Loveless
(5,303 posts)She's not a deranged murderer.
Bluetus
(1,783 posts)If AOC is President, there is zero doubt that she would follow the laws and the Constitution.
Autumn
(48,521 posts)murielm99
(32,462 posts)And, one of the most inspiring women of your lifetime? How interesting.
ForgoTheConsequence
(5,112 posts)What is interesting about it? She has been on the front lines more than any other politician I can think of in recent times.
Sorry if that ruffles your feathers.
Autumn
(48,521 posts)Yeah that's really "interesting"
Autumn
(48,521 posts)can become so inspiring?
murielm99
(32,462 posts)flying around the country with BS, whether or not Congress is in session. I am more inspired by Lauren Underwood, Congressperson from the Illinois 14th District. She goes to work and gets real things done.
Autumn
(48,521 posts)murielm99
(32,462 posts)Do you actually read?
Oh, and I am doing something I should have done months ago: putting you on ignore.
Autumn
(48,521 posts)murielm99
(32,462 posts)as I have for more than twenty years.
Autumn
(48,521 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(5,112 posts)I cant imagine being bitter over someone actively visiting red parts of the country trying to sell progressive politics. The hate and racism she deals with from the right is bad enough. Now she gets it from the left.
BumRushDaShow
(162,526 posts)and she strikes fear in them.
This is the only way to get through to their hypocritical bullshit.
It's the "imagine the shoe is on the other foot" dig.
IMHO - it establishes how much they would fear her due to her endless persistence in calling them out time and time and time again.
Autumn
(48,521 posts)BumRushDaShow
(162,526 posts)No "sound bite" that they have hurled at her since she first took off in January 2019, has made any difference.
She has only grown stronger and more respected over those ensuing years and there is nothing they can spout that will change that.
That is why she is feared.
They took down Cory Bush, Katy Porter, and Jamaal Bowman but she is still there. They are determined to take out Jasmine Crockett by trying to draw her seat out of existence. But AOC is still there.
Embrace the mindset here.
It's just like how DU had a ridiculous freak-out over the term "woke". We need to go dark and attack their perceived weaknesses.
thought crime
(949 posts)Nancy Pelosi would take this guy out for a little discussion behind the wood-shed.
littlemissmartypants
(30,721 posts)IronLionZion
(50,221 posts)it's such a bad comparison
NNadir
(36,834 posts)NNadir
(36,834 posts)I understand it's just musing but the fact this particular muse arises reflectd that she's a rising star.
I may not agree with everything she says and does - I never do with any Democrat I support - but I greatly admire her intelligence, toughness, courage and the depth with which she loves our country.
I may not live long enough to have an opportunity to vote for her, but I hope my sons will.
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Mblaze
(855 posts)Too "clever" by far. I imagine nobody being killed extra-judiciously by AOC.
CaptainTruth
(7,970 posts)Ol Janx Spirit
(462 posts)...like the evil Turnip is doing, but that cheering on this lawless action by the President would set a precedent where a President AOC could justify some other action so long as the American people supported it.
It would be quite overboard for any Democrat to say that a Democratic president would engage in the same lawless murderous behavior--therefore I do not think that is what he was suggesting.
Yes, he was inartful in getting his point across. That is always a danger on live TV. But to read into his comments that a future President AOC would kill people in illegal strikes is really going too far IMO.
0rganism
(25,378 posts)The odds of anyone in the GOP or the mass media (nearly the same thing these days) actually applying that degree of consideration to his comments are lottery-level slim.
Grins
(9,047 posts)KS Toronado
(21,783 posts)that most illegal drugs get into this country by airplane not by small boats.
eppur_se_muova
(40,450 posts)Now that you mention it, Turnip did cancel several flights by Mexican airlines ....
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143555649
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143498734
KS Toronado
(21,783 posts)
0rganism
(25,378 posts)Pointers toward fairness and self-recognition of hypocrisy will not land on such people, especially when couched in displeasing hypotheticals.
Guess who else won't get the message? The media.
Rep. Himes should know better.
fujiyamasan
(821 posts)Seems completely unnecessary.
I understand the point hes trying to make, but there is no need to drag AOC or other democrats into it. Besides it doesnt make sense to imply that a democratic president would behave this way anyway.