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AStern

(378 posts)
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 05:31 PM Mar 2025

Brian Eno perfectly explains selfishness of the super rich

'If they want to leave the UK, then... off'
This week we met the musician and record producer Brian Eno who told us that super rich people should be happy to pay a bit more tax to make sure many, many more people aren't struggling in poverty. He dismisses the idea that some might leave the country if the government brought in a wealth tax and said most would not even notice it. Mean rich people think more about numbers on a bank balance rather than how they could use it, he suggests.
The Roxy Music co-founder is part of the Patriotic Millionaires group – high profile rich people in support of an extra super tax rich..
Do you agree?

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Brian Eno perfectly explains selfishness of the super rich (Original Post) AStern Mar 2025 OP
Love his music and his position on wealth tax... An Ending (Ascent) is one of his best... bsiebs Mar 2025 #1
I put it this way: Auggie Mar 2025 #2
Oh, that last part is something they've forgotten. ChazInAz Mar 2025 #3
Henry Ford was sued for paying his workers too much Farmer-Rick Mar 2025 #5
And Ford was no saint. soldierant Mar 2025 #6
He was also rabidly antisemitic. MLWR Mar 2025 #7
He was indeed. And I expect equally bigoted on skin tone. soldierant Mar 2025 #14
Not really management OrangeJoe Mar 2025 #10
Well, there are different levels of management. soldierant Mar 2025 #15
The "classic" Henry Ford story is only part of the story....... DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #9
What do they call those things that drain you for nothing but their own benefit? Grokenstein Mar 2025 #4
Or Vampires!!! slightlv Mar 2025 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2025 #8
Warren Buffet DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2025 #12
Sorry DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #13
It is a form of hoarding. tblue37 Mar 2025 #20
I have been around DENVERPOPS Mar 2025 #21
Yikes. What did I miss? AStern Mar 2025 #18
So what Brian Eno has MILLIONS of Dollars?! It's what Cha Mar 2025 #16
Still a hero of mine. They_Live Mar 2025 #17
Eno is truly a Renaissance Man bif Mar 31 #22

bsiebs

(848 posts)
1. Love his music and his position on wealth tax... An Ending (Ascent) is one of his best...
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 06:34 PM
Mar 2025

Auggie

(32,371 posts)
2. I put it this way:
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:07 PM
Mar 2025

Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:41 PM - Edit history (1)

The rich got rich on the backs of the poor.

Pay it forward. It’s morally right, assholes.

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Oh, and BTW ... Henry Ford paid his workers more so they could afford to buy the very automobiles they were building.

Get it?

ChazInAz

(2,925 posts)
3. Oh, that last part is something they've forgotten.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:34 PM
Mar 2025

I used to work in a major department store in Tucson. Even with their laughable "employee discount", employees couldn't afford to shop there.

Farmer-Rick

(11,784 posts)
5. Henry Ford was sued for paying his workers too much
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:55 PM
Mar 2025

Ford lost the case and he had to go to back to paying his employees the least amount he could get away with.

"Ford Motor Co. Dodge v. Ford Motor Co., 204 Mich 459; 170 NW 668 (1919), is a case in which the Michigan Supreme Court held that Henry Ford had to operate the Ford Motor Company in the interests of its shareholders, rather than in a manner for the benefit of his employees or customers."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.#:~:text=Ford%20Motor%20Co.,-Article&text=Article-,Dodge%20v.,of%20his%20employees%20or%20customers.

US Capitalism is the cause for most of the inequality in the country and the destruction of democracy.

soldierant

(8,654 posts)
6. And Ford was no saint.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:55 PM
Mar 2025

He was a practical businessman who was smart enough to make the observations which led him to adopt that policy.

Those in management who don't get it are either too lazy to pay attention to reality, or too impressed with their own BS for it to occur to them that they might be wrong, or just dumb as rocks (and some are all three.)

OrangeJoe

(505 posts)
10. Not really management
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:26 PM
Mar 2025

Rather than point the finger at management I blame the big shareholders, the hedge funds, banks and venture capitalists. Most in management are just victims who are paid slightly more.

soldierant

(8,654 posts)
15. Well, there are different levels of management.
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:58 PM
Mar 2025

I was thinking of the highest of the high. If owners are telling CEOs what to do, they are managing them. Baddly, but they are.

DENVERPOPS

(12,708 posts)
9. The "classic" Henry Ford story is only part of the story.......
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:25 PM
Mar 2025

evidently the stockholders came after him because the job he was hired to do was purely to create maximum stock holder value and not reward the workers any more than absolutely necessary, like the other car manufacturers at that time were doing....

Not at all unlike it is today.......

Grokenstein

(6,043 posts)
4. What do they call those things that drain you for nothing but their own benefit?
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 07:41 PM
Mar 2025

..Oh, that's right!

PARASITES.

Response to AStern (Original post)

DENVERPOPS

(12,708 posts)
11. Warren Buffet
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:27 PM
Mar 2025

with 160? Billion has openly stated that his housekeeper pays more in taxes than he does.

There are countless Corporations, with Billions in Revenue, that pay absolutely ZERO in taxes, and some that actually get money from the Feds........

Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #11)

DENVERPOPS

(12,708 posts)
13. Sorry
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 08:48 PM
Mar 2025

but I think that is indirectly the point with all of them........At what point is enough, enough?

DENVERPOPS

(12,708 posts)
21. I have been around
Mon Mar 24, 2025, 04:18 PM
Mar 2025

many wealthy, and a few UBER wealthy, and I feel them never feeling enough is enough, comes from their very deep insecurities.

Most of them have been rich most of their lives, if not just their adult lives due to an inheritance or as a trust fund kid who grew up with the riches.

They have absolutely no way of coping with out their money..............If they were to lose their money, deep down inside they know they would be screwed with out it. They have never had to face adversity, never been denied anything they wanted, never had a job, etc etc etc. They are soooo afraid of losing it, that they must be obsessed with collecting more and more, at any cost.

Obviously, it doesn't apply to all the UBER rich, but many I have been around.

Many who are just obsessed with money, also came from poor backgrounds, and will also make their entire focus of life with making money.........

Cha

(312,245 posts)
16. So what Brian Eno has MILLIONS of Dollars?! It's what
Sun Mar 23, 2025, 09:18 PM
Mar 2025

they do with their money that counts.

Not like Mump with their fucking Billions that are Trying to Destroy America & the Planet.

bif

(25,723 posts)
22. Eno is truly a Renaissance Man
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 01:33 PM
Mar 31

Such a genius. I've loved his music for ever. "Music for Airports" is still one of my favorite pieces of music.

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