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Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 04:18 AM Feb 6

Middle East leaders condemn Trump's idea to remove Palestinians and take control of Gaza - PBS NewsHour



Shockwaves continue to reverberate around the world following Trump’s remarks about seizing control of Gaza and turning the war-ravaged area into a ‘Riviera of the Middle East.” Trump repeated his idea that two million Palestinians from Gaza should relocate to other countries. William Brangham discussed the reaction with Marwan Muasher of the Carnegie Endowment. - Aired on 02/05/2025.
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Middle East leaders condemn Trump's idea to remove Palestinians and take control of Gaza - PBS NewsHour (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Feb 6 OP
Not satisfied with deporting undocumented immigrants from the U.S., no_hypocrisy Feb 6 #1
Exactly. TFG only thinks of what can benefit himself - and he apparently believes he can deport anyone, anywhere. Rhiannon12866 Feb 6 #2
MaddowBlog-New details make Trump's radical Gaza plan look worse, not better LetMyPeopleVote Feb 6 #3
Of course! Thanks so much! Rhiannon12866 Feb 6 #4
'We're going to take it': Trump's Gaza plan goes in an indefensible direction LetMyPeopleVote Feb 12 #5

no_hypocrisy

(51,329 posts)
1. Not satisfied with deporting undocumented immigrants from the U.S.,
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 05:21 AM
Feb 6

TSF now wants to carry his program to Gaza.

Notice how the demographic of the deported are regarded as indigenous trash, not people, not humans.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
2. Exactly. TFG only thinks of what can benefit himself - and he apparently believes he can deport anyone, anywhere.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 05:24 AM
Feb 6

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,217 posts)
3. MaddowBlog-New details make Trump's radical Gaza plan look worse, not better
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 01:03 PM
Feb 6

After having learned nothing after his first failed term, the president still appears wholly incapable of avoiding shambolic chaos of his own making.
https://bsky.app/profile/stevebenen.com/post/3lhjax7bnhs2r

After having learned nothing after his first failed term, Trump still appears wholly incapable of avoiding shambolic chaos of his own making.

Take his Gaza "plan," for example.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/new-details-make-trumps-radical-gaza-plan-look-worse-not-better-rcna190962

Following a series of foreign policy blunders in 2019, Anne Applebaum wrote a piece for The Washington Post with a memorable summary of how Donald Trump approaches international challenges. “There is no plan; there is only whim and instinct,” she explained. “There is no international orientation either, just a series of hasty unplanned, unexamined decisions, followed by Twitter tantrums.”

Nearly six years later, the assessment continues to ring true. Take the president’s plan — I’m using the word loosely — to acquire the Gaza Strip......

As for how, exactly, the president arrived at this idea, The New York Times reported that Trump “shocked even senior members of his own White House” on Tuesday afternoon:

[P]rivately, Mr. Trump had been talking about U.S. ownership of the enclave for weeks. And his thinking had accelerated, according to two administration officials, after his Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, returned from Gaza last week and described the horrific conditions there.

While his announcement looked formal and thought-out — he read the plan from a sheet of paper — his administration had not done even the most basic planning to examine the feasibility of the idea, according to four people with knowledge of the discussions, who were not authorized to speak publicly
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In a normal, functioning U.S. administration, such a monumental decision would go through months of intense scrutiny, led by experienced national security and diplomatic officials. There would be working groups. And negotiations. And detailed analyses on costs and consequences......

The day after the rollout of the plan, administration officials couldn’t answer the questions because there were no such answers. All they had were some poorly thought-out rhetoric that their boss blurted out, to the consternation of much of the planet.

After a day of confusion at the White House, Trump apparently thought he could help clear things up with a 107-word missive published to his social media platform. In it, the Republican said Gaza “would be turned over to the United States,” and Palestinians would be “resettled” in some other countries that he didn’t identify.

He went on to say that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, who is Jewish, is a Palestinian — a label Trump has long used as a slur — before concluding that Trump doesn’t believe U.S. troops will be needed as part of this endeavor because ... well, he never actually got around to saying why not.

All of which is to say, Trump created an avoidable international incident on Tuesday, only to make matters worse soon after.

LetMyPeopleVote

(162,217 posts)
5. 'We're going to take it': Trump's Gaza plan goes in an indefensible direction
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 09:17 PM
Feb 12

“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it,” the president told reporters, in reference to Gaza, failing to explain how this is supposed to happen.
https://bsky.app/profile/turquoise-cat.bsky.social/post/3lhytrmuork23

‘We’re going to take it’: Trump’s Gaza plan goes in an indefensible direction

“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it,” the president told reporters, in reference to Gaza, failing to explain how this is supposed to happen.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/re-going-take-trumps-gaza-plan-goes-indefensible-direction-rcna191855

It’s been about a week since Donald Trump surprised much of the world by announcing that he wants the United States to take a “long-term ownership position” over Gaza. As the president described it, Americans would both “take over” and “own” the area, and when asked about the possibility of deploying U.S. military forces to Gaza, the Republican added, “We’ll do what is necessary.”.....

“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it,” the president told reporters, in reference to Gaza, failing to explain how, exactly, this is supposed to happen.

As for the cost, Trump apparently wasn’t concerned, declaring, “There’s nothing to buy.”
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:iu4j537hox5huj4bwnwgub4z/post/3lhwbfzlbtb2j


For good measure, the Republican added that “nobody is going to question” U.S. ownership of Gaza because ... well, he never quite got around to explaining why.

Just as importantly, as experts in international law continue to explain that his plan is illegal, Trump was asked how the United States could legally claim Palestinian territory as its own. The president cited “U.S. authority.”
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:iu4j537hox5huj4bwnwgub4z/post/3lhwbhc534u27



It’s a colonizing perspective rooted in the idea that if the United States wants foreign territory, it should take the foreign territory because the United States wants it.


To reiterate a point from last week, if you voted for Trump because you expected foreign policy restraint, I have some awful news for you.
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