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Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 07:55 PM Feb 11

'Irony died while he was talking': Nicolle Wallace on Elon Musk's takeover of Oval Office - Deadline - MSNBC



Maya Wiley, Former U.S. Attorney, and Glenn Thrush, New York Times Justice Reporter, join Nicolle Wallace on Deadline: White House with reaction to Elon Musk’s speaking today in the Oval Office while attempting to explain he work that what he calls the “Department of Government Efficiency” which is not a real government agency is doing to address government spending, which he was unable to do without resorting to lies and rhetoric based in fact. - Aired on 02/11/2025.
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'Irony died while he was talking': Nicolle Wallace on Elon Musk's takeover of Oval Office - Deadline - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 OP
This was one of the most jaw dropping Oval Office moments I have ever seen. A fact. Deuxcents Feb 11 #1
Well said. Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 #2
Only for the guy who literally bought him the election...and quite possibly did even more than that to get him there. Karasu Feb 12 #32
You're right. And TFG is not one to be grateful, he likely wants more and it makes his "job" easier Rhiannon12866 Feb 12 #33
tRump's grandfather was born in Germany & Trump name comes from there (was like Drumpf). . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 11 #19
I'm at the point where I can't even watch it AdamGG Feb 11 #20
Ditto! Linda ladeewolf Feb 11 #23
Nicolle uses her words well. yellow dahlia Feb 11 #3
What a shit show. mzmolly Feb 11 #4
He couldn't spring for a babysitter? FoggyLake Feb 11 #5
I wondered about that, too! Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 #6
Surely he expected it to be an adorable distraction FoggyLake Feb 11 #16
Heavy handed attempt to normalize/humanize/defreakify Musk AdamGG Feb 12 #29
They took in coders not accountants Uncle Joe Feb 11 #7
You're welcome, Uncle Joe! And you're right... Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 #9
Thank. You. Best part of her show today, imo. His oligarchspeak is important to show exactly for what it is -- ancianita Feb 11 #8
I know, I was horrified, too. I was grateful that Nicolle cut away. Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 #11
She was great to start with that. ancianita Feb 11 #12
Agreed. And I'm grateful that we still have venues, like Nicolle, to call out the lies Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 #14
... ancianita Feb 11 #17
Excellent point. And on Nicolle's show, one of her guests said that Musk will likely last longer than we think Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 #18
Wow , Trump looks like an employee of Elon Mr. Sparkle Feb 11 #10
An employee that knows he's about to get shit canned. rubbersole Feb 11 #15
Been thinking tsf gets Putin's orders through Muskrat. KS Toronado Feb 11 #25
Impeach President Musk!nt stage left Feb 11 #13
Why aren't people shouting that he let an IMMIGRANT take over the White House and government? kimbutgar Feb 11 #21
Threatening judge. orangecrush Feb 11 #22
Yes, he is. I'm referring to him lately as Dummkopf. Watching in slow motion horror our collapse unless... Deuxcents Feb 11 #24
Let's see the evidence of all this fraud he is uncovering. IronLionZion Feb 11 #26
I can't bring myself to watch Orrex Feb 11 #27
Only at the beginning, then Musk took over. Rhiannon12866 Feb 11 #28
He drags little X everywhere pfitz59 Feb 12 #30
I know! It's not like he can't afford a nanny! Poor kid must not have much fun or anyone to play with Rhiannon12866 Feb 12 #31

Deuxcents

(21,935 posts)
1. This was one of the most jaw dropping Oval Office moments I have ever seen. A fact.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:06 PM
Feb 11

Dummkopf let Elon go on talking without interrupting once. His kid sat in front of him while he lectured us on policy and just what he thinks the US needs to do about our courts and on n on. I feel like I’m living in a 1930’s news reel where Hitler is telling Germany how they need to proceed. He wasn’t born in Germany and Musk wasn’t born here is just one of the parallels to this nightmare

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
2. Well said.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:17 PM
Feb 11

It's jaw dropping that TFG would calmly listen to the pontificating of anyone besides himself, but hardly surprising that he'd let the lies go on and on...

Karasu

(1,015 posts)
32. Only for the guy who literally bought him the election...and quite possibly did even more than that to get him there.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 01:49 AM
Feb 12

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
33. You're right. And TFG is not one to be grateful, he likely wants more and it makes his "job" easier
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 01:56 AM
Feb 12

He'll have more time for golf if someone else is doing most of the "work" he wants done.

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,999 posts)
19. tRump's grandfather was born in Germany & Trump name comes from there (was like Drumpf). . . . . nt
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:43 PM
Feb 11

AdamGG

(1,684 posts)
20. I'm at the point where I can't even watch it
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:47 PM
Feb 11

I've read enough about what he's doing and saying; I saw him making Nazi salutes. I don't need to experience the rage and disgust of watching him more.

FoggyLake

(240 posts)
5. He couldn't spring for a babysitter?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:37 PM
Feb 11

Maybe he thought that the mini-villain would soften some hearts. Before you jump on me for that, here is a quote from adorable X: "We quietly do whatever we want." Parroted from his father no doubt. He is a villain in the making. Mark my words. Same as B. Trump.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
6. I wondered about that, too!
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:43 PM
Feb 11

Of all places, it was a bizarre venue to see a small child. And you're right, he's learning at his father's knee - where is his mother?? And he can certainly afford a "nanny."

AdamGG

(1,684 posts)
29. Heavy handed attempt to normalize/humanize/defreakify Musk
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 12:00 AM
Feb 12

He wouldn't make dangerous cuts and destroy the government, he has a cute little son. The way that Trump uses the English level of a 5th grader, this tactic is targeting a low education/sophistication level. Can you imagine JFK bringing out his young son to make a major policy address; FDR having a grandchild babble into the microphone at a fireside chat?

The country is getting stupider by the minute.

ancianita

(40,371 posts)
8. Thank. You. Best part of her show today, imo. His oligarchspeak is important to show exactly for what it is --
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:46 PM
Feb 11

lies to the public as coverup for (his own waste & corruption) their goal to privatize this taxpayer funded government after mortally wounding it, draining it of money, expertise, intel and data -- anything he can use as leverage in competition with other global oligarchs. Including other Silicon Valley oligarchs who right now seem complicit.
Nicolle meant to show the optics of an oligarch puppetmaster.

This military contracted oligarch won the felon's campaign and now runs the show. Everything had to be the way it was because rich people paid others to say so. His presence is meant to become normalized.

If the literal embodiment of wealth inequality of our nation now makes speeches from the Oval, and the weight of our wealth inequality is so great that we cannot even speak about it, we are not a free people.

Zelensky says there is no such thing as a free country. Only a free people. Freedom belongs to humans, not land. Unless we together speak and act in factuality (of the lies & harm to children here & the world) and in solidarity, we won't be a free people.

sorry, I can't even...

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
11. I know, I was horrified, too. I was grateful that Nicolle cut away.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:01 PM
Feb 11

And of course everything you said is true, with Musk at the helm, he is dismantling democracy more rapidly than even we could have imagined. And TFG, knowing so little about how government works, must be grateful not only for the monetary support, but having a partner in crime, making sure that his plans are affected even more quickly.

ancianita

(40,371 posts)
12. She was great to start with that.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:09 PM
Feb 11

There's Elon, THE unelected bureaucrat -- showing himself to be his own concocted story re unelected bureaucrats -- saying that we don't have a democracy, just a bureaucracy. The Big Lie he thinks is too big to fail.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
14. Agreed. And I'm grateful that we still have venues, like Nicolle, to call out the lies
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:15 PM
Feb 11

But what scares me the most is for how long??

ancianita

(40,371 posts)
17. ...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:21 PM
Feb 11

what scares me is how long this oligarch will call the shots, which could be at both midterms and 2028. Henchmen suppress votes on the ground, while he handles the actual count from Starlink.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
18. Excellent point. And on Nicolle's show, one of her guests said that Musk will likely last longer than we think
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:25 PM
Feb 11

rubbersole

(9,728 posts)
15. An employee that knows he's about to get shit canned.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:20 PM
Feb 11

Because of Insubordination. And odor. Not necessarily in that order.

kimbutgar

(24,938 posts)
21. Why aren't people shouting that he let an IMMIGRANT take over the White House and government?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:56 PM
Feb 11

The repukes won on the immigration issue and now an IMMIGRANT is running our country! Where is the outrage?

Oh I forget IOKIYAR and the musk🐀 paid for and rigged the election of the 🍑💩🤡 and now he owns him and our country. BS!

Deuxcents

(21,935 posts)
24. Yes, he is. I'm referring to him lately as Dummkopf. Watching in slow motion horror our collapse unless...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:22 PM
Feb 11

We get creative with our resistance. I’m of the opinion that we can be very effective when we need to.

IronLionZion

(48,603 posts)
26. Let's see the evidence of all this fraud he is uncovering.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:43 PM
Feb 11

There must be tons of evidence right? Show Congress, our elected representatives. Elon wasn't elected to anything.

Rhiannon12866

(232,989 posts)
31. I know! It's not like he can't afford a nanny! Poor kid must not have much fun or anyone to play with
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 01:44 AM
Feb 12

He may need therapy as an adult.

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