'It's morally disgusting': Trump torched for saying Ukraine 'should have never started' Putin's war - The Last Word MSNBC

[Rhiannon12866]

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell is joined by Yale History Professor Timothy Snyder to discuss Donald Trump saying Ukraine ‘should have never started it’ about Vladimir Putin’s war on the same day that U.S. officials met in Saudia Arabia with a Russian delegation — without NATO, EU or Ukrainian envoys — to discuss the conflict. - Aired on 02/18/2025.

[young_at_heart]

1. We need more Timothy Synders

But that would be difficult since he is exceptionally smart and knowledgeable, especially when it comes to Ukraine. It must make him cringe when he hears the despicable things Trump says about Ukraine. How did such a cruel creature get to be our president....I still can't believe it!!

[MadameButterfly]

4. We need a society that appreciates someone

that brilliant and that moral. It's why he is where he is. For some of us it's ok to look up to someone and be inspired. Others are jealous and resentful and want to tear him down. That's why we have MAGA. If they can't be Timothy Snyder, they want to destroy him or the institutions that elevate him.

[eppur_se_muova]

2. We need Biden, Obama, Clintons to come out and say the same thing.

Dang, if W would say something like this, I'd actually forgive him for some of the stupidity he brought to the WH. Too bad his dad isn't around, I bet he'd be able to make a critical, if too gentlemanly, comment.

[Rhiannon12866]

3. I felt physically sick when W won in 2004, now, in comparison, he doesn't seem nearly so bad

[MadameButterfly]

5. and he could do a lot of good if he was inclined to do so

As bad as he was, willing to cheat for his own election, he didn't want an end to democracy. Would he like to save it now?

[Rhiannon12866]

7. He's been criticized since he hasn't come out publicly as opposed to TFG like his VP, Dick Cheney

But according to Liz Cheney's book, she got a thank you note from W for her leadership in continuing to oppose TFG after January 6th and for her work on the January 6th Select Committee.

[MadameButterfly]

8. Yeah, but how about the courage to do it in public

the selfish bastard. Presidential pension and all. Two stolen elections. He could give back a little more than that.

[Rhiannon12866]

10. I certainly agree, he lacks the courage of both Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger

[Woodycall]

14. Reminds me of a saying my Mom would tell me when I was young.

"I used to complain about my shoes until I met a man who had no feet" Not exactly the same I know, but you get the connection...

[Rhiannon12866]

17. I understand exactly what you mean, thanks!

[MadameButterfly]

6. I hope Ukraine/Europe?NATO can prevail

over US/Russia. Scary to have our resources on the wrong side. Zelensky is such a hero. I hope he survives all this to claim victory. How sweet that would be.

Russia is in economic turmoil because of this war, please God Trump doesn't rescue Putin from this.

[Rhiannon12866]

9. I feel exactly the same way, Ukraine has fought so hard for so long to hold off Putin's takeover

And President Biden was Ukraine's best ally, so it's heartbreaking to see TFG switching sides after so long. As for Zelenskyy, he's a hero in support of his courageous country like no other. Now it's up to Europe to advocate for and provide aid for Ukraine - and I'm hoping that they can prevail, despite TFG who, unsurprisingly, has always sided with Putin.

[MadameButterfly]

11. Putin has something on Trump

I'm not saying Trump doesn't actually admire Putin, but I think he has no choice. Putin/Mafia types always compromise their victims. I'm sure Trump was compromised a long time ago.

Since he has no compassion or logic, he is happy to go after Ukriane/Zelensky

[Rhiannon12866]

12. Sadly, I agree that you're right.

I still remember when he was in office and met secretly with the Russians in the Oval Office.

[MadameButterfly]

13. For all we know

Everything he is doing now is Putin's plan
How to destroy America and make Trump think he's winning

[littlemissmartypants]

16. Child porn is legal in Russia. I'm guessing the two are related. ...

Just a theory based on what we already know about President Psychopath. Putin has something.

[littlemissmartypants]

15. Propaganda 101, rewrite history. ...

[Rhiannon12866]

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